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wafflycat

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Nathan did a TT this morning. Back at the HQ, Nathan, Vernon & I were
chatting to another rider. Facing me, and behind Vernon was another rider,
getting changed in the main hall (not the loos). Put it this way, when he
was getting changed out of his shorts, it was *clear* and *obvious* he'd
been going commando... He really needs to learn how not to let his towel
slip, or to get changed in a loo cubicle... Good job I'm not a delicate
flower or I'd have needed the smelling salts ;-)

Cheers, helen s
 
wafflycat wrote:

> it was *clear*
> and *obvious* he'd been going commando...

I thought this was the norm?
 
"Simon Bennett" <[email protected]> wrote in
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> wafflycat wrote:
>
>> it was *clear*
>> and *obvious* he'd been going commando...
>
> I thought this was the norm?
>
>

I've never heard it referred to as 'Norm' before.

Peter
Percy
John

But never Norm ;-)

Cheers, helen s
 
"wafflycat" <waffles*A*T*v21net*D*O*T*co*D*O*T*uk> wrote in message
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>
>
> I've never heard it referred to as 'Norm' before.
>
> Peter
> Percy
> John

(as in John Thomas)

>
> But never Norm ;-)
>
> Cheers, helen s
>

Derivative of Richard..
Derivative of William..


Cheers, helen s
 
wafflycat <waffles*A*T*v21net*D*O*T*co*D*O*T*uk> wrote:
: Nathan did a TT this morning. Back at the HQ, Nathan, Vernon & I were
: chatting to another rider. Facing me, and behind Vernon was another rider,
: getting changed in the main hall (not the loos).

Road races seem ever worse for this than TT's. Lots of blokes just stripped
off in the hall. My grilfriend was quite distraced when she came to a race
with me once :)

Aerthur


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"Arthur Clune" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>
> Road races seem ever worse for this than TT's. Lots of blokes just
> stripped
> off in the hall. My grilfriend was quite distraced when she came to a race
> with me once :)
>
> Aerthur
>

As long as you weren't made tofeel inferior, but smug instead, that's okay
;-)

Cheers, helen s
 
"wafflycat" <waffles*A*T*v21net*D*O*T*co*D*O*T*uk>typed


> Nathan did a TT this morning. Back at the HQ, Nathan, Vernon & I were
> chatting to another rider. Facing me, and behind Vernon was another rider,
> getting changed in the main hall (not the loos). Put it this way, when he
> was getting changed out of his shorts, it was *clear* and *obvious* he'd
> been going commando... He really needs to learn how not to let his towel
> slip, or to get changed in a loo cubicle... Good job I'm not a delicate
> flower or I'd have needed the smelling salts ;-)

> Cheers, helen s

Why?

He needed space to change. He wanted to leave the loos to those who
*needed* toilet facilities. I get really brassed off when I can't use a
loo to pee cos people are too shy to change in communal facilties. (This
happens when I sing in a mixed choir.)

Adults come in two forms; those like 'them' and those like 'us'.

Most adults have seen both forms by their mid 20s, or sooner.

I am quite comfortable with the unclothed human form, so long as it's
not threatening.

This chap wasn't quite parading himself in the open air, was he?

Wearing undies under cycling shorts is not the way to ride...

--
Helen D. Vecht: [email protected]
Edgware.
 
wafflycat wrote:
> Nathan did a TT this morning. Back at the HQ, Nathan, Vernon &
> I were chatting to another rider. Facing me, and behind Vernon
> was another rider, getting changed in the main hall (not the
> loos). Put it this way, when he was getting changed out of his
> shorts, it was *clear* and *obvious* he'd been going
> commando... He really needs to learn how not to let his towel
> slip, or to get changed in a loo cubicle... Good job I'm not a
> delicate flower or I'd have needed the smelling salts ;-)
> Cheers, helen s

We took the kids to see Paul Merton this afternoon at the Fringe.
While we were queueing in the court yard there were several scantilly
clad young ladies wandering round giving out leaflets for other shows.
I could see the boys (13 and 15 years) trying to look but not be seen
to be looking.
--
the.Mark
 
wafflycat wrote:

> I've never heard it referred to as 'Norm' before.

No really. I wonder if anyone does actually wear pants under cycling shorts.
Would seem a mightily odd thing to do.
 
"Helen Deborah Vecht" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> "wafflycat" <waffles*A*T*v21net*D*O*T*co*D*O*T*uk>typed
>
>
>> Nathan did a TT this morning. Back at the HQ, Nathan, Vernon & I were
>> chatting to another rider. Facing me, and behind Vernon was another
>> rider,
>> getting changed in the main hall (not the loos). Put it this way, when he
>> was getting changed out of his shorts, it was *clear* and *obvious* he'd
>> been going commando... He really needs to learn how not to let his towel
>> slip, or to get changed in a loo cubicle... Good job I'm not a delicate
>> flower or I'd have needed the smelling salts ;-)
>
>> Cheers, helen s
>
> Why?
>


Woosh... What was that?? It was Helen's sense of humour vanishing! ;-)

> He needed space to change. He wanted to leave the loos to those who
> *needed* toilet facilities. I get really brassed off when I can't use a
> loo to pee cos people are too shy to change in communal facilties. (This
> happens when I sing in a mixed choir.)
>
> Adults come in two forms; those like 'them' and those like 'us'.
>
> Most adults have seen both forms by their mid 20s, or sooner.
>
> I am quite comfortable with the unclothed human form, so long as it's
> not threatening.
>

Good for you, but not everyone is.

> This chap wasn't quite parading himself in the open air, was he?
>

Almost, and FWIW, there were kids in the main hall, so if he'd have gone to
the rather large loos he'd have space he could have changed in which was
private and without risk of accidental exposure to anyone.


> Wearing undies under cycling shorts is not the way to ride...
>


Woosh... there goes that sense of humour again ;-)

Cheers, helen s




> --
> Helen D. Vecht: [email protected]
> Edgware.
 
> wafflycat wrote:
>
>> I've never heard it referred to as 'Norm' before.
>
> No really. I wonder if anyone does actually wear pants under cycling shorts.
> Would seem a mightily odd thing to do.

I've seen loads that do, the VPL gives it away! I find it fairly
common practice in Germany for some reason. If here was no other
reason not to wear them, at least it cuts down on washing!

--
Mark
______________________________________
Nerves of Steel, Heart of Gold, Knob of Butter
 
wafflycat wrote:

> Nathan did a TT this morning. Back at the HQ, Nathan, Vernon & I were
> chatting to another rider. Facing me, and behind Vernon was another
> rider, getting changed in the main hall (not the loos). Put it this way,
> when he was getting changed out of his shorts, it was *clear* and
> *obvious* he'd been going commando... He really needs to learn how not
> to let his towel slip, or to get changed in a loo cubicle... Good job
> I'm not a delicate flower or I'd have needed the smelling salts ;-)

You should have seen the beach after the Dunwich Dynamo. After 120
miles no-one cares.
 
Arthur Clune wrote:
>
> wafflycat <waffles*A*T*v21net*D*O*T*co*D*O*T*uk> wrote:
> : Nathan did a TT this morning. Back at the HQ, Nathan, Vernon & I were
> : chatting to another rider. Facing me, and behind Vernon was another rider,
> : getting changed in the main hall (not the loos).
>
> Road races seem ever worse for this than TT's. Lots of blokes just stripped
> off in the hall. My grilfriend was quite distraced when she came to a race
> with me once :)
>
> Aerthur
>
The girls are nearly as bad as the blokes. Only they don't pee just
anywhere before the race. And for a really distracting view take a walk
in a race hotel after a really 'nice' pileup !

--
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Marten Gerritsen

INFOapestaartjeM-GINEERINGpuntNL
www.m-gineering.nl
 
"wafflycat" <waffles*A*T*v21net*D*O*T*co*D*O*T*uk> wrote in message
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> "Helen Deborah Vecht" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>> "wafflycat" <waffles*A*T*v21net*D*O*T*co*D*O*T*uk>typed
>>
>>
>>> Nathan did a TT this morning. Back at the HQ, Nathan, Vernon & I were
>>> chatting to another rider. Facing me, and behind Vernon was another
>>> rider,
>>> getting changed in the main hall (not the loos). Put it this way, when
>>> he
>>> was getting changed out of his shorts, it was *clear* and *obvious* he'd
>>> been going commando... He really needs to learn how not to let his towel
>>> slip, or to get changed in a loo cubicle... Good job I'm not a delicate
>>> flower or I'd have needed the smelling salts ;-)
>>
>>> Cheers, helen s
>>
>> Why?
>>
>
>
> Woosh... What was that?? It was Helen's sense of humour vanishing! ;-)
>

It either is a joke or it isn't. Some of us get tired at having other
people's prudery constantly pushed upon us.
 
"Robert" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>
>
>
> It either is a joke or it isn't. Some of us get tired at having other
> people's prudery constantly pushed upon us.
>

Oh dear, sounds like someone has been sucking too many lemons he's so sour.

If you look over there ---> a million miles away, you'll find that sense of
humour you've so obviously lost.

Cheers, helen s
 
"wafflycat" <waffles*A*T*v21net*D*O*T*co*D*O*T*uk> wrote in message
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>
> "Robert" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>>
>>
>>
>> It either is a joke or it isn't. Some of us get tired at having other
>> people's prudery constantly pushed upon us.
>>
>
> Oh dear, sounds like someone has been sucking too many lemons he's so
> sour.
>
> If you look over there ---> a million miles away, you'll find that sense
> of humour you've so obviously lost.
>

Sorry I don't have a great sense of humour. But it didn't appear that you
were joking. It just appeared you wanted to disapprove without justifying
why or defend your comments.

If you really don't care about the guy getting changed and wouldn't dream of
acting in a disapproving way in real life, I apologise.
 
"Robert" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> "wafflycat" <waffles*A*T*v21net*D*O*T*co*D*O*T*uk> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>>
>> "Robert" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> news:[email protected]...
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> It either is a joke or it isn't. Some of us get tired at having other
>>> people's prudery constantly pushed upon us.
>>>
>>
>> Oh dear, sounds like someone has been sucking too many lemons he's so
>> sour.
>>
>> If you look over there ---> a million miles away, you'll find that sense
>> of humour you've so obviously lost.
>>
>
> Sorry I don't have a great sense of humour. But it didn't appear that you
> were joking. It just appeared you wanted to disapprove without justifying
> why or defend your comments.
>
> If you really don't care about the guy getting changed and wouldn't dream
> of acting in a disapproving way in real life, I apologise.
>
>

Apology accepted.

If you go to the orginal post, you will see the relevant ;-)

I'm a woman of the world - seen one dangly bit, seen them all... Mind you,
if I'd have had young kids there (and there were some there), and they'd
have seen it, I'd have had a word with the bloke in question to remind him
that there was a remarkably large gents loo with plenty of space in which he
could change without giving youngsters an anatomy lesson in the main hall.
That's not prudish IMO. It's one thing not to be prudish, but it's also one
thing not to get yer bits out for public display... for all & sundry to see
who haven't asked to see..

Cheers, helen s
 
"wafflycat" <waffles*A*T*v21net*D*O*T*co*D*O*T*uk> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> I'm a woman of the world - seen one dangly bit, seen them all... Mind you,
> if I'd have had young kids there (and there were some there), and they'd
> have seen it, I'd have had a word with the bloke in question to remind him
> that there was a remarkably large gents loo with plenty of space in which
> he could change without giving youngsters an anatomy lesson in the main
> hall. That's not prudish IMO. It's one thing not to be prudish, but it's
> also one thing not to get yer bits out for public display... for all &
> sundry to see who haven't asked to see..
>

You see you weren't joking were you. You were making a point and trying to
pretend it was just a joke. Why shouldn't kids see naked people? When I go
swimming all the blokes get changed in a communal area often full of young
kids, boys and girls.

IMO this is prudish.
 
"Robert" <[email protected]>typed



> "wafflycat" <waffles*A*T*v21net*D*O*T*co*D*O*T*uk> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> >
> > I'm a woman of the world - seen one dangly bit, seen them all...
> > Mind you,
> > if I'd have had young kids there (and there were some there), and they'd
> > have seen it, I'd have had a word with the bloke in question to
> > remind him
> > that there was a remarkably large gents loo with plenty of space in which
> > he could change without giving youngsters an anatomy lesson in the main
> > hall. That's not prudish IMO. It's one thing not to be prudish, but it's
> > also one thing not to get yer bits out for public display... for all &
> > sundry to see who haven't asked to see..
> >

> You see you weren't joking were you. You were making a point and trying to
> pretend it was just a joke. Why shouldn't kids see naked people? When I go
> swimming all the blokes get changed in a communal area often full of young
> kids, boys and girls.

> IMO this is prudish.


Sometimes I suffer from humour bypass, admittedly.


I only saw a smiley after the smelling salts comment. Surely if you had
no problem with nudity, the episode would not merit any comment, let
alone a usenet posting?

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Edgware.
 
On Sun, 14 Aug 2005 20:02:15 +0100, wafflycat wrote:

> Nathan did a TT this morning. Back at the HQ, Nathan, Vernon & I were
> chatting to another rider. Facing me, and behind Vernon was another rider,
> getting changed in the main hall (not the loos). Put it this way, when he
> was getting changed out of his shorts, it was *clear* and *obvious* he'd

In our society, the convention is that people have to wear clothes. Some
bits of the body are considered 'rude'. Some people would argue that these
standards are ridiculous (including but not limited to nudists and
naturists, for example). If he's a grown man, I think that he should have
obeyed convention in this case. His 'freedom' to walk around naked in
public might conflict with other people's 'freedom' to hold adult nudity
with a special regard.

Unfortunately, in this case, I think that you are going to encounter a lot
of 'Guardian Reader' style sophisticates who will attempt to brow-beat you
by trying to assure you that you are not as mature or sophisticated as they
are. They've seen it all before and would barely raise an eye brow (or
anything else) in the same situation.

You've got two kids so, I should imagine that you aren't entirely sexually
inexperienced either. Like nearly all people in our society, you probably
assign special meaning to adult nudity. I do too. If an adult woman got
undressed in front of me, it would probably have some effect on me. The
problem is, I'm only 29 and I don't want to be as 'sophisticated' as the
people who've seen it all before.

Isn't it interesting that the most well know allegorical children's fable
about brow-beating is actually The Emperor's New Clothes? :)

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