The things you see at a time trial...

[wafflycat]

"Helen Deborah Vecht" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> Sometimes I suffer from humour bypass, admittedly.
>
>
> I only saw a smiley after the smelling salts comment. Surely if you had
> no problem with nudity, the episode would not merit any comment, let
> alone a usenet posting?
>

Dear god... Why don't we have an academic post-mortem on why someone posts
something on Usenet...

 

[wafflycat]

"Robert" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...

>
> You see you weren't joking were you. You were making a point and trying to
> pretend it was just a joke. Why shouldn't kids see naked people? When I go
> swimming all the blokes get changed in a communal area often full of young
> kids, boys and girls.
>
> IMO this is prudish.
>

Bollox... two of them, actually...

 

[wafflycat]

"killermike" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>
> Unfortunately, in this case, I think that you are going to encounter a lot
> of 'Guardian Reader' style sophisticates who will attempt to brow-beat you
> by trying to assure you that you are not as mature or sophisticated as
> they
> are. They've seen it all before and would barely raise an eye brow (or
> anything else) in the same situation.
>

Aye, spotted a bit of that going on, and I've been known to read the
Grauniad myself ;-)

That has amused me slightly - the possibly prudish response to me making a
comment about a ***** being err... prudish ;-) How dare I notice that
someone is accidentally dangling his bits, six feet from me, in a hall full
of people! I mean how dare I! How dare I find some humour in it! Only a
prude would find such a thing vaguely humourous... err.... umm...

> You've got two kids so, I should imagine that you aren't entirely sexually
> inexperienced either.

One offspring, and it wasn't immaculate conception. Well, as far as I can
recall it wasn't. It was a long time ago now...

>Like nearly all people in our society, you probably
> assign special meaning to adult nudity. I do too. If an adult woman got
> undressed in front of me, it would probably have some effect on me. The
> problem is, I'm only 29 and I don't want to be as 'sophisticated' as the
> people who've seen it all before.
>

Depends who is nude as to whether it's special or not. :-D


> Isn't it interesting that the most well know allegorical children's fable
> about brow-beating is actually The Emperor's New Clothes?
>

There is that.

Cheers, helen s



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[Simon Brooke]

in message <[email protected]>, Robert ('[email protected]')
wrote:

> "wafflycat" <waffles*A*T*v21net*D*O*T*co*D*O*T*uk> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>>
>> "Helen Deborah Vecht" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> news:[email protected]...
>>> "wafflycat" <waffles*A*T*v21net*D*O*T*co*D*O*T*uk>typed
>>>
>>>> Nathan did a TT this morning. Back at the HQ, Nathan, Vernon & I
>>>> were chatting to another rider. Facing me, and behind Vernon was
>>>> another rider,
>>>> getting changed in the main hall (not the loos). Put it this way,
>>>> when he
>>>> was getting changed out of his shorts, it was *clear* and *obvious*
>>>> he'd been going commando... He really needs to learn how not to let
>>>> his towel slip, or to get changed in a loo cubicle... Good job I'm
>>>> not a delicate flower or I'd have needed the smelling salts ;-)
>>>
>>> Why?
>
>> Woosh... What was that?? It was Helen's sense of humour vanishing! ;-)
>
> It either is a joke or it isn't. Some of us get tired at having other
> people's prudery constantly pushed upon us.

Well said that man.

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[Al C-F]

On Sun, 14 Aug 2005 21:01:43 +0100, "wafflycat"
<waffles*A*T*v21net*D*O*T*co*D*O*T*uk> wrote:

>Good job I'm not a delicate
>>> flower or I'd have needed the smelling salts ;-)
>>
>>> Cheers, helen s
>>
>> Why?
>>
>
>
>Woosh... What was that?? It was Helen's sense of humour vanishing! ;-)

After your failure to admit any sort of lighter side to the TT-rider
and drug-taking debate recently, I'm surprised you take this line.

 

[wafflycat]

"Simon Brooke" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>> It either is a joke or it isn't. Some of us get tired at having other
>> people's prudery constantly pushed upon us.
>
> Well said that man.
>

So I *constantly* push my supposed *prudery* on the group.
Yes, well, whatever...

'scuse me whilst I get me tits out in public...

Cheers, helen s

 

[Clive George]

"Arthur Clune" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> wafflycat <waffles*A*T*v21net*D*O*T*co*D*O*T*uk> wrote:
> : Nathan did a TT this morning. Back at the HQ, Nathan, Vernon & I were
> : chatting to another rider. Facing me, and behind Vernon was another
> rider,
> : getting changed in the main hall (not the loos).
>
> Road races seem ever worse for this than TT's. Lots of blokes just
> stripped
> off in the hall. My grilfriend was quite distraced when she came to a race
> with me once

Caving is quite good for this too. It's best if you can time the change for
a minibus of boy scouts or similar.

(Last TQ we did it wasn't the getting changed which would have annoyed Mrs
Whitehouse, it was the guy in the white shorts )

cheers,
clive

 

[Colin Blackburn]

wafflycat wrote:

> I'm a woman of the world - seen one dangly bit, seen them all... Mind
> you, if I'd have had young kids there (and there were some there), and
> they'd have seen it, I'd have had a word with the bloke in question to
> remind him that there was a remarkably large gents loo with plenty of
> space in which he could change without giving youngsters an anatomy
> lesson in the main hall. That's not prudish IMO. It's one thing not to
> be prudish, but it's also one thing not to get yer bits out for public
> display... for all & sundry to see who haven't asked to see..

I think I should warn you to steer clear of large orienteering events
with sizeable Scandinavian contingents.

Colin

 

[Simon Bennett]

Colin Blackburn wrote:

> I think I should warn you to steer clear of large orienteering events
> with sizeable Scandinavian contingents.

Thanks for the tip. Where are they usually held? Just so I don't stumble
across one, accidentally.

 

[Colin Blackburn]

Simon Bennett wrote:
> Colin Blackburn wrote:
>
>
>>I think I should warn you to steer clear of large orienteering events
>>with sizeable Scandinavian contingents.
>
>
> Thanks for the tip. Where are they usually held? Just so I don't stumble
> across one, accidentally.

Don't go anywhere near Speyside in early August 2007. Avoid Sweden in
the summer.

Colin

 

[Peter Clinch]

Colin Blackburn wrote:

> I think I should warn you to steer clear of large orienteering events
> with sizeable Scandinavian contingents.

Or most watersports (or at least wet sports, such as caving) without
formal changing areas on cold days, when getting into something warm and
dry takes /far/ higher precedence than, well, pretty much anything else.

Though at least on these occasions there isn't generally /that/ much to
see! ;-)

Pete.
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[David Martin]

wafflycat wrote:
> "Simon Brooke" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> >> It either is a joke or it isn't. Some of us get tired at having other
> >> people's prudery constantly pushed upon us.
> >
> > Well said that man.
> >
>
> So I *constantly* push my supposed *prudery* on the group.
> Yes, well, whatever...
>
> 'scuse me whilst I get me tits out in public...
>

If I were to complain about drivers constantly passing too close, then
I wouldn't be neccessarily complaining about the same driver repeatedly
passing me again and again. Noone was accusing you of being constant in
your prudery quotient, pushing thereof or otherwise.

And if you didn't mean it to appear that you had an issue with this
particular gentleman's approach to discretion, then your standard of
writing had an unfortunate lapse below that which we have come to
expect and respect you for.

TBH, I would rather people did get changed in a discrete and
appropriate manner. This of course varies on the situation as to what
discrete and appropriate entails.

...d

 

[Roos Eisma]

"David Martin" <[email protected]> writes:

>TBH, I would rather people did get changed in a discrete and
>appropriate manner. This of course varies on the situation as to what
>discrete and appropriate entails.

And on the person & culture, that's the problem.
In the university sports centre dressing room I see some women go to great
trouble to not show any nudity while changing (wrap yourself in towel, put
bra on over towel, pull towel out under bra - never seen that trick
before), while my feeling is that in a single sex dressing room I should
be able to take off my clothes and walk to the showers naked.

Roos

 

On 15 Aug,
Roos Eisma <[email protected]> wrote:

> "David Martin" <[email protected]> writes:
>
> >TBH, I would rather people did get changed in a discrete and
> >appropriate manner. This of course varies on the situation as to what
> >discrete and appropriate entails.
>
> And on the person & culture, that's the problem.
> In the university sports centre dressing room I see some women go to great
> trouble to not show any nudity while changing (wrap yourself in towel, put
> bra on over towel, pull towel out under bra - never seen that trick
> before), while my feeling is that in a single sex dressing room I should
> be able to take off my clothes and walk to the showers naked.

A great problem nowadays is unisex changing 'villages' with cubicles with not
enough room to swing a cat, and showers you can't get a decent wash in cos of
having to wear something.

--
BD
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[wafflycat]

"Roos Eisma" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> "David Martin" <[email protected]> writes:
>
>>TBH, I would rather people did get changed in a discrete and
>>appropriate manner. This of course varies on the situation as to what
>>discrete and appropriate entails.
>
> And on the person & culture, that's the problem.
> In the university sports centre dressing room I see some women go to great
> trouble to not show any nudity while changing (wrap yourself in towel, put
> bra on over towel, pull towel out under bra - never seen that trick
> before), while my feeling is that in a single sex dressing room I should
> be able to take off my clothes and walk to the showers naked.
>
> Roos

Exactly. This however, wasn't a changing room - and there was plenty of
space in the large loos to change - it was the main hall. I actually found
it funny that some random bloke parked himself six feet away from me and
there was an accidental exposure. Silly bloke would have had far less hassle
than he was in the main hall trying to cover up his dangly-bits with a
tea-towel and failing miserably. The comic element of that struck me as
funny. Apparently that makes me a prude. It seems one should not find dangly
bits amusing, one should be totally oblivious to the python six feet away
;-)

Cheers, helen s

 

[Dave Larrington]

Simon Bennett wrote:

> No really. I wonder if anyone does actually wear pants under cycling
> shorts. Would seem a mightily odd thing to do.

I wear swimming trunks under unpadded shorts when doing long distances
inna-lying-down-stylee. Given the prevailing weather conditions on Saturday
afternoon, this was more than somewhat appropriate...

--
Dave Larrington - <http://www.legslarry.beerdrinkers.co.uk/>
Mushroom! Mushroom!

 

[David Martin]

wafflycat wrote:

> Exactly. This however, wasn't a changing room - and there was plenty of
> space in the large loos to change - it was the main hall. I actually found
> it funny that some random bloke parked himself six feet away from me and
> there was an accidental exposure. Silly bloke would have had far less hassle
> than he was in the main hall trying to cover up his dangly-bits with a
> tea-towel and failing miserably. The comic element of that struck me as
> funny. Apparently that makes me a prude.

Twas meerly the way you expressed yourself originally that led to a
degree of misunderstanding.
Given the reports of dancing nekkid round trees in Norfolk at midnight
whilst hurling paving slabs around, it did come as a bit of a surprise
to get that kind of tone from your OP.


> It seems one should not find dangly
> bits amusing, one should be totally oblivious to the python six feet away
> ;-)

Reminiscent of the sketch about a couple making love in a crowded
train, and noone objected until they lit a post-conjugal cigarette.

...d

 

[wafflycat]

"David Martin" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...

>
> Twas meerly the way you expressed yourself originally that led to a
> degree of misunderstanding.
> Given the reports of dancing nekkid round trees in Norfolk at midnight
> whilst hurling paving slabs around, it did come as a bit of a surprise
> to get that kind of tone from your OP.
>
>

Aye, seems some missed the ;-) at the end of the post - I should use more of
them! One after every line! Of course, it might also be telling something
about *their* attitudes to nekkidness too, dare the subject be raised
(ooh-err Missus!) ;-) ;-);-);-);-);-);-);-);-);-);-)... just making
sure...;-);-);-);-);-);-)

Cheers, helen s

 

[Tony Raven]

Colin Blackburn wrote:
>
> I think I should warn you to steer clear of large orienteering events
> with sizeable Scandinavian contingents.
>

Or European mixed saunas (never did get on with the British mixed sauna
concept of wearing your swimming cozzy in one.

There seems to be a spectrum between the fairly liberal approach in
continental Europe, the totally prudish approach in the USA (where you
will get admonished for letting your young kids run round nekkid) with
Britain somewhere in between.

--
Tony

"I did make a mistake once - I thought I'd made a mistake but I hadn't"
Anon

 

[Clive George]

"Roos Eisma" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> "David Martin" <[email protected]> writes:
>
>>TBH, I would rather people did get changed in a discrete and
>>appropriate manner. This of course varies on the situation as to what
>>discrete and appropriate entails.
>
> And on the person & culture, that's the problem.
> In the university sports centre dressing room I see some women go to great
> trouble to not show any nudity while changing (wrap yourself in towel, put
> bra on over towel, pull towel out under bra - never seen that trick
> before), while my feeling is that in a single sex dressing room I should
> be able to take off my clothes and walk to the showers naked.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/weekend/story/0,,1533221,00.html

cheers,
clive