The Thread about Nothing....



gplama

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Thylacine said:
Here's one for you, Lama-o-Rama.....


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Thats hot.
 

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Is that under warranty? Or did you concede that the hubs are only designed to cope with watts, rather than kilowatts?

Well, Saris is a seppo company and therefore the warranty lasts 2.4 nanoseconds - which is what the 2.4 is for in the PowerTap 2.4SL. It's got nothing to do with the frequency the hub transmitts its bits at...

The 'damage' is $80 inc labour. I can live with that since the old cassette body was looking a bit shot (lots of grooves in the splines) anyway.

Speaking of wheels - what a farking difference changing a front wheel can make. I normally ride an American Classic CR-420 but rode a Ksyrium SL tonight out in the hills. I was laughing like a kid with a 'grab everything you want' token in a toy store. The extra lateral rigidity in the front wheel complimented the Cracknfail and it was just like cycling telepathy going down hill - I regret selling these wheels when I first got the bike. Glad I bought them back now!

Anyone wanna buy a CR-420 with sapim cx-ray spoke, titanium skewer and smoother than "pedo-bears favorite babies bottom" bearings from Phil Wood? :p
 

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gplama said:
Scody Cup Final - Tour of Tasmania

* Please note - Stage 3: Friday September 17th (Queenstown Teams Time Trial) NO TIME TRIAL BIKES ALLOWED

Right. So I guess they'll all be on bigwheels!?

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Judging by the pedals that are falling off and random lines they're taking, their dads must be American Cat5 cyclists...

The UCI in all of their dumbfcukery passed a stupid rule that allows race organiser the ability to force riders to use a road bike. They've done in at a couple of Pro races in the US and I think maybe even one stage in the Giro a year or two ago. USA Cycling added that rule to their rulebook this year.

I can see it being of some use in junior racing where it should be about the rider and not how much money mum and dad have (or who they know to blag wheels from for the event) but for senior racing it's a little silly unless they put on a time trial course that's really technical.
 

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swampy1970 said:
The UCI in all of their dumbfcukery passed a stupid rule that allows race organiser the ability to force riders to use a road bike. They've done in at a couple of Pro races in the US and I think maybe even one stage in the Giro a year or two ago. USA Cycling added that rule to their rulebook this year.
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You are funny and clever at times but here you are a stoopid goose monger.

This rule is awesome.

Why?

Because it allows for equality and better results at certain races.

Example 1,
Here at the race mentioned by Lama, Fly V australia can rock up with a ****load of sexy aero bikes and stuff and smash the pants of everyone and take home all the pie. Where as the small yada yada teams go home crying on their round bars.

Example 2
Tours with a TT but not that important,
IE Herald Suntour,
No TT bikes because most of the teams coming a long way to Oz dont wanna have to bring a whhole other set of bikes AND it makes its fairer for the littles guys in the situation as mentioned above.

Eventually you gotta drop the socialist agenda (I work for Fox news..) and let the boys with the big money and bikes kick some **** but used with good discretion* this rule is awesome and save a lot of bull****tery and faarking around. I mean the race above is liek 700k with a good 5k of that being for a TT, I mean fark it, anyone who wants to bring a TT bike can go felate a donkey for all I care. The rule is good.

*Discretion employed by commisaires is often bizare and hard to understand, like women

PS-Thylo is sooooo old:p
 

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Jono L said:
You are funny and clever at times but here you are a stoopid goose monger.

This rule is awesome.

Why?

Because it allows for equality and better results at certain races.

Example 1,
Here at the race mentioned by Lama, Fly V australia can rock up with a ****load of sexy aero bikes and stuff and smash the pants of everyone and take home all the pie. Where as the small yada yada teams go home crying on their round bars.

Example 2
Tours with a TT but not that important,
IE Herald Suntour,
No TT bikes because most of the teams coming a long way to Oz dont wanna have to bring a whhole other set of bikes AND it makes its fairer for the littles guys in the situation as mentioned above.

Eventually you gotta drop the socialist agenda (I work for Fox news..) and let the boys with the big money and bikes kick some **** but used with good discretion* this rule is awesome and save a lot of bull****tery and faarking around. I mean the race above is liek 700k with a good 5k of that being for a TT, I mean fark it, anyone who wants to bring a TT bike can go felate a donkey for all I care. The rule is good.

*Discretion employed by commisaires is often bizare and hard to understand, like women

PS-Thylo is sooooo old:p
Jono, women are perfectly straightforward. The same cannot be said of your spelling.

I am concerned by this apparent deterioration in your hitherto impressive spelling and grammar skills.
 

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531Aussie

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paulambry said:
The only unacceptable English accent is the whitie 'Seth Effrican excent'
I reckon a strong Kiwi accent is worse :D

That reminds me: what happened to 62vette on here? He hasn't posted since December
 

swampy1970

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Jono L said:
You are funny and clever at times but here you are a stoopid goose monger.

This rule is awesome.

Why?

Because it allows for equality and better results at certain races.

Example 1,
Here at the race mentioned by Lama, Fly V australia can rock up with a ****load of sexy aero bikes and stuff and smash the pants of everyone and take home all the pie. Where as the small yada yada teams go home crying on their round bars.

Example 2
Tours with a TT but not that important,
IE Herald Suntour,
No TT bikes because most of the teams coming a long way to Oz dont wanna have to bring a whhole other set of bikes AND it makes its fairer for the littles guys in the situation as mentioned above.

Eventually you gotta drop the socialist agenda (I work for Fox news..) and let the boys with the big money and bikes kick some **** but used with good discretion* this rule is awesome and save a lot of bull****tery and faarking around. I mean the race above is liek 700k with a good 5k of that being for a TT, I mean fark it, anyone who wants to bring a TT bike can go felate a donkey for all I care. The rule is good.

*Discretion employed by commisaires is often bizare and hard to understand, like women

PS-Thylo is sooooo old:p

Example 1 is just so wrong on so many levels but I'll leave it at just few (ok I lie) sentences instead of a War and Peace diatribe...

The cost of a time trial bike is a drop in the ocean compared to the overall budget for a team so Fly V have probably spent more on getting their riders into the condition they need to be in with training camps etc etc than they would have done on something like a P4 Cervelo with 1080 and Sub9 disk. If a big race presents itself with such a time trial there's nothing preventing Fly V from sticking their top guy on a road bike in a windtunnel with whatever other gear is allowed in terms of wheels and helmets or a day or two testing with a power meter because although the bike has changed, the prep behind it hasn't. Shift the emphasis from carbon disks to Lightweights and Continental Olympic tubs. Besides, if the guys are good enough to be in Fly V, they'll probably smash the pants of the other smaller teams anyway.

Speed costs - how much you gonna spend? If you wanted to take things to the extreme, Chris Hoys carbon track bike with a set of 32 hole GP4's with campag hubs is gonna cost about 24,000GBP rather than the touted 28,000GBP with the fancy carbon wheels. I still meets the silly TT regs for the mentioned event but is it still really an apples to apples comparison in terms of bikes?

The little guys are little guys for a reason. If they want the fancy kit they should go out an buy it, borrow it, or put up some big results and then get their kit for free. :p

... at the end of the day, bring one less spare bike and bring the TT kit. B0llocks rule and confirms that the UCI suffers from mass retardation.
 

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swampy1970 said:
The cost of a time trial bike is a drop in the ocean compared to the overall budget for a team so Fly V have probably spent more on getting their riders into the condition they need to be in with training camps etc etc than they would have done on something like a P4 Cervelo with 1080 and Sub9 disk. If a big race presents itself with such a time trial there's nothing preventing Fly V from sticking their top guy on a road bike in a windtunnel with whatever other gear is allowed in terms of wheels and helmets or a day or two testing with a power meter because although the bike has changed, the prep behind it hasn't. Shift the emphasis from carbon disks to Lightweights and Continental Olympic tubs. Besides, if the guys are good enough to be in Fly V, they'll probably smash the pants of the other smaller teams anyway.

Speed costs - how much you gonna spend? If you wanted to take things to the extreme, Chris Hoys carbon track bike with a set of 32 hole GP4's with campag hubs is gonna cost about 24,000GBP rather than the touted 28,000GBP with the fancy carbon wheels. I still meets the silly TT regs for the mentioned event but is it still really an apples to apples comparison in terms of bikes?
what a complete pile of worthless drivel.

They DO put guys in windtunnels with roadbikes, but that is still better on the little guys.

The argument that they are in fly v so they would smash them anyway hhold less water than my bowels. So what? Yes they may win but lets keep it even at the lower levels huh?

More on the monaaaaay, It's not even the cost of getting another biike, its the goddam baggage costs of every rider in a team bringing two bikes.

you farkin capitalist pigdog.
 

matagi

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Hmm, this unusual feistiness makes me suspect that Jono is in a timezone appropriate for the consumption of alcoholic beverages.

Either that, or he has been drinking too much red cordial. :p
 

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classic1 said:
Secondarily, they are interviewing pommie bike riders. Fark me, is it a prerequisite that you have to be an ugly farker before they give u a racing licence in the UK? Swampy can probably answer that one.
Let's face it, most of the prettier ones are too busy getting their brains shagged out to do enough training. This is why I didn't start doing any serious miles until I passed 30, :D I was so ugly by the time I hit about 33, that things really dried up. Now I can ride as much as I like.
 

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swampy1970 said:
Speaking of wheels - what a farking difference changing a front wheel can make. I normally ride an American Classic CR-420 but rode a Ksyrium SL tonight out in the hills. I was laughing like a kid with a 'grab everything you want' token in a toy store. The extra lateral rigidity in the front wheel complimented the Cracknfail and it was just like cycling telepathy going down hill - I regret selling these wheels when I first got the bike. Glad I bought them back now!
Ha! Don't get me started. I can't stop using all my 2.1kg, 32-spoke, 30mm-deep DT RR 1.2ss, coz, by comparison, everything else feels totally dead/unresponsive/slow, or so flexy that they're gunna bust, or at least rub on the brakes. Apart from 'serious' riders going up very steep moutnains in 'important' races, I reckon bling wheels should only be used in TTs where ya never get off the stool to stomp.

I've got a theory that there's a whole generation of young riders who have so idea what a stiff wheel is, coz they've never ridd nothin with 28 spokes or more

I've gotta admit, I was very naive about carbon rims when I bought my first set a few years ago, which were some Flashpoint FP60s. I foolishly assumed that a 60mm-deep rim would be nothing short of the stiffest thing that god (shmod) ever put bonerness into. Well, I was obviously wrong.

I bought them 2nd hand, so they needed a tiny bit of truing when I got them. When I squeezed 2 spokes together to check the tension, i was gobsmacked when I saw the rim fold over like a farkin taco!! :)

I got them cheap-ish off a guy i know, so I wasn't too worried about it in the end.

And don't get me started on the farkin "rotating mass" fairy tale. :D
 

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Jackson G goin' off like a frog in a sock...
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The only more blahblahblah I've heard is in a Kesha music clip.... so here is more!

Budget issues as an excuse goes to show there is no qualification process in the NRS, and thats introduces its own problems. You pay, you race. On the extreme, this a good reason the ProTour teams have to prove they're worth their license. Got $14m? Got a business plan? Got worthy riders? Then your team is a chance. Why is the NRS any different albeit on a smaller scale? Got $100k? Got sponsors who'll allow you to have the equipment/travel/accommodation to compete at the highest level in Australia? Then you're a chance. Fly V, Genesys, WAIS, VIS, AIS, QAS, Budget, Plan B, Drapac... all very capable of meeting such requirements. Not sure why they bother with Team Local Council, or Ring-in Shed Doors, etc....? I guess the pay-to-race guys have a great opportunity that would otherwise not be available to them... but wouldn't it be easier to restrict the NRS somehow to the 'superstars'... in theory having more experienced racers, better races, and a way to promote it like any other national level sport - V8 Supercars, AFL, NRL, Netball... sheeeet, even lawn bowls on synthetic turf gets a billion times more TV coverage than cycling.

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From the Giant Trinity spec sheet on their Interwebs site:

"How much does this bike weigh? It’s a common question, and rightly so. But the truth is, there are no industry standards for claiming bike weights—and this leads to a lot of misinformation. Variances exist based on size, frame material, finish and hardware. And as bikes get lighter, these differences become more critical. At Giant, we believe the only way to truly know the weight of any particular bike is to find out for yourself at your local retailer."

No standards in claiming weight... so grams isn't standard enough? Amazing.
 

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531Aussie said:
And don't get me started on the farkin "rotating mass" fairy tale. :D

I have a set of GEL280s that will take your butt heavy wheels and crush their belief that rim weight doesn't matter and because they were built up by a wheel building God, they'll last longer too. ;) It's kinda sad that I can't buy a 10 speed freewheel for them - but I have plans for them in the next year or so. The Furnace Creek 508 - retro bike category. 500 miles, 31,000ft of climbing on a real mans bike with the ride going through Furnace Creek in the middle of Death Valley around mid afternoon. Fcuk yeah... I'll probably self immoliate on that ride and then sell the wheels.

But, to counter my own little happy rant about how much better the bike felt... It's just that - perception. Hard data will probably show that over the course of the ride that a good light aero wheel would have been faster...

... I hear the HED Stinger 6 are pretty stiff. Cav apparently digs his - apparently he's got the Stallion build, which is probably more for reigning in the near two horsepower he's putting out than the original intent of the stallion build with was for fat fcuks. :p
 

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gplama said:
From the Giant Trinity spec sheet on their Interwebs site:



No standards in claiming weight... so grams isn't standard enough? Amazing.

Cannondale do that too. It's due to variences in carbon manufacturing, putting on that bit of extra bar tape, using the slightly heavier than normal rim tape because they ran out of the usual stuff and having a guy build it up with a few cm's too much gear and brake cable... and then factoring in different crank, bar and stem sizes.... and after all that having to hear a pissy customer coming with a diatribe of "they said it would weigh 13.8lbs but it says 13.95lbs"...

... it's just an easy cop out for them and a cheap shot at getting you to go down to the store and ride the fecker. :p
 

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531Aussie said:
Let's face it, most of the prettier ones are too busy getting their brains shagged out to do enough training. This is why I didn't start doing any serious miles until I passed 30, :D I was so ugly by the time I hit about 33, that things really dried up. Now I can ride as much as I like.

Take a look at famous British folk. Have you ever seen a handsome guy that the ladies swoon over other than Sean Connery or Roger Moore? No, neither have I. It's always a case of the ladies going "oh, he looks less ugly that the rest of them... lets see if he wants to go 'ave a shag."

Roger her more... I'm sure he would with Ms ***** Galore or Dr Goodhead
 

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swampy1970 said:
... I hear the HED Stinger 6 are pretty stiff. Cav apparently digs his - apparently he's got the Stallion build, which is probably more for reigning in the near two horsepower he's putting out than the original intent of the stallion build with was for fat fcuks. :p

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