The RSR's were pretty lightweight so that gives it a big advantage right there. The old Camaros handle like oil tankers in a hurricane - you need to go for a complete tube frame setup for them to handle remotely well. I like the way the RSR gets hauled back in on the few straights were there's not that much trafficpaulambry said:
Sad fact is, you could probably get a 2003 Boxster S, sell that engine and for a few $'s more bolt in a Carrera 3.6 motor. That'd probably take down both of those cars... I'd need to get my rear gear changed before contemplating a track day - it tops out around 110 mph but if I did that it'd mean that I'd actually have to start using 2nd and 3rd on the street. I like being lazy and relying on the torque to allow me to just go 1st to 4th at times and not even having to rev the engine much in 1st either. On the plus side. The back is getting better - might be able to get something done this week. It might just be getting the fuel tank in and making/running the fuel lines (all work done laying on my back and not bending over) but it'd be a start. I might just go pull the tank out of the box and stick 12V on it to hear the pump run for a second. Mmmm. Toys
I like the original Mustangs, especially the fastback. Not sure what prices are like of the late 60s ones that weren't considered collectable a few years back.531Aussie said:
Until a few minutes ago, I was under the impression that they all cost a fortune down here, but I was wrong
This one's 42 grand
http://www.carsales.com.au/private/details/Ford-Mustang-1965/SSE-AD-3009163/?gts=SSE-AD-3009163>ssaleid=SSE-AD-3009163
$19,000:
http://www.carsales.com.au/private/details/Ford-Mustang-1966/SSE-AD-2535686/?Cr=0&sdmvc=1
$35,000:
http://www.carsales.com.au/dealer/details/Ford-Mustang-1966/AGC-AD-16500501/?Cr=1&sdmvc=1
$33,000
http://www.carsales.com.au/private/details/Ford-Mustang-1966/SSE-AD-3025209/?Cr=2&sdmvc=1
$25,000
http://www.carsales.com.au/private/details/Ford-Mustang-1967/SSE-AD-2914975/?Cr=3&sdmvc=1
$65,000:
http://www.carsales.com.au/private/details/Ford-Mustang-1968/SSE-AD-2222730/?Cr=5&sdmvc=1
But this gt is $185,000
http://www.carsales.com.au/private/details/Ford-Mustang-1967/SSE-AD-2885529/?Cr=4&sdmvc=1
Etc, etc: http://www.carsales.com.au/all-cars/results.aspx?silo=stock&q=((((((((SiloType%3d%5bBrand+new+cars+in+stock%5d)%7c(SiloType%3d%5bBrand+new+cars+available%5d))%7c(SiloType%3d%5bDemo+and+near+new+cars%5d))%7c(SiloType%3d%5bDealer+used+cars%5d))%7c(SiloType%3d%5bDemo+and+near+new+cars%5d))%7c(SiloType%3d%5bPrivate+seller+cars%5d))%26(Service%3d%5bCarsales%5d))%26(CarAll%3dkeyword%5bmustang%5d))&vertical=car&sortby=TopDeal
"It was, and always shall be, a 5.75 liter motor that in 1971 was capable of competing on equal ground with hemi headed 7 liter motors. With the same 0.6" lift endurance cams, at the same rpm, with the same carburetion, the 351 cubic inch Ford made equal horsepower as the FE427, the Boss 429, the 426 Hemi and the 421 Super Duty. It could power a Torino around the super ovals like Taladega and Daytona at equal speed, and with equal reliability as the big blocks. It could cruise around a super oval at 7200 rpm all day long without breaking. It did this with a thin cast block, no side oiling, no steel crank. The 351C 4V was assembled on an assembly line at 20% of the cost of a Boss 429 or the 427 FE." - 351Cleveland.net forum.
Here in OZ we put them in family sedans and raced them at Bathurst.
When I built that motor that was the best manifold available for my combination. Certainly better than the old school dual and single plane manifolds. The motor makes around 480 hp at 6200 rpm and would be better off with one of the new generation hi-rise dual plane manifolds that have been developed since. It's a bit of a sad story regrading these manifolds as the guy that developed them was put out of business by cheap and nasty Chinese rip-offs of his own manifolds.
Do those rockers have roller tips? We found that the big problem with using pressed rockers on Clevos which have canted valves just like the BBC wasn't the rockers which were plenty strong enough but the lack of roller tips which meant that sideways forces were transmitted to the valves and guides. The valves would develop enough sideways play that you could feel it with you fingers and see it with your eyes. Will the double rocker cover gasket trick give you enough clearance for roller rocker? If you look at the above photos you will see that is what we did. Gee I could go insane on a Clevo build now with a bit more cash and greater part availability. Siamese block + stroker kit = 434 ci. Add 3V heads and manifold plus a solid roller camshaft and you are looking at 700+ hp with pump fuel or a bit less with a hydraulic roller camshaft. Still it would be $20k.
My suggestion with the front brakes is to make sure you can still fit 15" wheels on it. These older cars look a bit weird with non-period wheels especially wheels with a big diameter. My car has factory four wheel disc brakes which is pretty impressive for the early 70's.
What diff ratio does it have? I quite like 3.5:1 and you should still be fine doing the 1st to 4th gear shift whilst keeping your sanity at highway speeds. I do the 1st to 4th shift all the time and your donk will have more torque than mine. Did it originally have a 10 bolt? I put a factory 10 bolt in my first car which was a 1970 Kingswood and I later put an Auburn LSD in it which I picked up whilst in Hawaii. It sure had the security guys puzzled when they inspected my bags at the airport. It didn't have c-clips but it did spit one axle and brake another. I ended up running 9" axles in it.
Regarding the 502 Chev, my first experience with them was in the late 80's when I skied behind this boat. It had something like 1200 hp. Up until then it was just 454 Chevs. The blocks were always Mercruiser blocks.
So who's coming to Fiji in a few weeks? Time to rock the Tour of Fiji.... and get in a holiday, and warm weather!
Looks like I might finally get to meet @::dom:: too (who hasn't used these forums in a LONG time, so hopefully this summons him back to the TAN
Looks like I might finally get to meet @::dom:: too (who hasn't used these forums in a LONG time, so hopefully this summons him back to the TAN
A looooong time.... took me a while to remember my password. Look forward to seeing you GPL.... it's good to back in TAN.Originally Posted by gplama
So who's coming to Fiji in a few weeks? Time to rock the Tour of Fiji.... and get in a holiday, and warm weather!
Looks like I might finally get to meet @::dom:: too (who hasn't used these forums in a LONG time, so hopefully this summons him back to the TAN
Nice cars, but the GT - it comes down to whether you "need" to have the real deal or would prefer to use modern stuff and some well placed stickers down the side of the car and have something that looks about the same but drives and goes better.531Aussie said:Until a few minutes ago, I was under the impression that they all cost a fortune down here, but I was wrong This one's 42 grandhttp://www.carsales.com.au/private/details/Ford-Mustang-1965/SSE-AD-3009163/?gts=SSE-AD-3009163>ssaleid=SSE-AD-3009163 $19,000:
http://www.carsales.com.au/private/details/Ford-Mustang-1966/SSE-AD-2535686/?Cr=0&sdmvc=1 $35,000:
http://www.carsales.com.au/dealer/details/Ford-Mustang-1966/AGC-AD-16500501/?Cr=1&sdmvc=1 $33,000
http://www.carsales.com.au/private/details/Ford-Mustang-1966/SSE-AD-3025209/?Cr=2&sdmvc=1 $25,000
http://www.carsales.com.au/private/details/Ford-Mustang-1967/SSE-AD-2914975/?Cr=3&sdmvc=1 $65,000:
http://www.carsales.com.au/private/details/Ford-Mustang-1968/SSE-AD-2222730/?Cr=5&sdmvc=1 But this gt is $185,000
http://www.carsales.com.au/private/details/Ford-Mustang-1967/SSE-AD-2885529/?Cr=4&sdmvc=1 Etc, etc:Â http://www.carsales.com.au/all-cars/results.aspx?silo=stock&q=((((((((SiloType%3d%5bBrand+new+cars+in+stock%5d)%7c(SiloType%3d%5bBrand+new+cars+available%5d))%7c(SiloType%3d%5bDemo+and+near+new+cars%5d))%7c(SiloType%3d%5bDealer+used+cars%5d))%7c(SiloType%3d%5bDemo+and+near+new+cars%5d))%7c(SiloType%3d%5bPrivate+seller+cars%5d))%26(Service%3d%5bCarsales%5d))%26(CarAll%3dkeyword%5bmustang%5d))&vertical=car&sortby=TopDeal
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