The Tyler guestbook

[JS]

I guess some people can't see the truth even it stares them straight in the
eye.

http://www.tylerhamilton.com/guestbook94.html

 

[B. Lafferty]

"JS" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>I guess some people can't see the truth even it stares them straight in the
> eye.
>
> http://www.tylerhamilton.com/guestbook94.html

Same people who think Bush has made their world safer and more secure. Oh,
what have I done...........

 

[Sierraman]

"B. Lafferty" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> "JS" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> >I guess some people can't see the truth even it stares them straight in
the
> > eye.
> >
> > http://www.tylerhamilton.com/guestbook94.html
>
> Same people who think Bush has made their world safer and more secure.
Oh,
> what have I done...........

OK, Tyler dodged the bullet so far. I can't believe Lance would be caught
doping to the gills. I still think Lance is clean. (But) if Lance is found
to be waist deep in ****, then that's the last straw for me. I don't follow
the men that much anyway, and that would really turn me off. I mostly just
enjoy following the womens slice of the whole pie. Now if someday these
babes are found to be knee deep in **** as well, I will yell Boo Hoo, but I
won't quite following the womens events. I still like the babes of cycling,
poetry in motion, all the climbers and sprinters, trackies and the like. The
women don't race for the big money so I guess there is less pressure to
cheat to get results. I would like to think most of the girls are clean. I
like the girls anyway, underdogs, second fiddle to the men.

I suppose someone is writing a book that will go underground...

(How to use drugs in cycling without getting caught)

 

[warren]

In article <[email protected]>, Sierraman
<[email protected]> wrote:
> The
> women don't race for the big money so I guess there is less pressure to
> cheat to get results. I would like to think most of the girls are clean. I
> like the girls anyway, underdogs, second fiddle to the men.

A woman might have more incentive to cheat. Every bit of prize money
received and every preme won is often needed just to keep racing at
all-a lot like a t3 male pro. Steroids are cheap and very effective for
women users. But I hope you're right.

-WG

 

[Badger_South]

On Thu, 23 Sep 2004 18:09:09 -0700, "Sierraman" <[email protected]>
wrote:

>
>OK, Tyler dodged the bullet so far. I can't believe Lance would be caught
>doping to the gills. I still think Lance is clean. (But) if Lance is found
>to be waist deep in ****, then that's the last straw for me. I don't follow
>the men that much anyway, and that would really turn me off. I mostly just
>enjoy following the womens slice of the whole pie.

Not trying to stir up anything, but have any of the women ever been alleged
to be doping? I can't recall anything, but I've only been following cycling
in the last year. Just curious, iow.

-B

 

[John Forrest Tomlinson]

On Thu, 23 Sep 2004 22:23:34 -0400, Badger_South <[email protected]>
wrote:
>
>Not trying to stir up anything, but have any of the women ever been alleged
>to be doping? I can't recall anything, but I've only been following cycling
>in the last year.

Perhaps you didn't follow cycling in the Olympics then. Google Calle
and medal.

JT

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[Sierraman]

"Badger_South" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On Thu, 23 Sep 2004 18:09:09 -0700, "Sierraman" <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
> >
> >OK, Tyler dodged the bullet so far. I can't believe Lance would be caught
> >doping to the gills. I still think Lance is clean. (But) if Lance is
found
> >to be waist deep in ****, then that's the last straw for me. I don't
follow
> >the men that much anyway, and that would really turn me off. I mostly
just
> >enjoy following the womens slice of the whole pie.
>
> Not trying to stir up anything, but have any of the women ever been
alleged
> to be doping? I can't recall anything, but I've only been following
cycling
> in the last year. Just curious, iow.

Amber Neben had a run in. Google her. Jeanson has been suspect.

You can check this...

http://cyclisme.dopage.free.fr/annuaire.htm#Femmes

 

[RWM]

"Badger_South" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On Thu, 23 Sep 2004 18:09:09 -0700, "Sierraman" <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
> >
> >OK, Tyler dodged the bullet so far. I can't believe Lance would be caught
> >doping to the gills. I still think Lance is clean. (But) if Lance is
found
> >to be waist deep in ****, then that's the last straw for me. I don't
follow
> >the men that much anyway, and that would really turn me off. I mostly
just
> >enjoy following the womens slice of the whole pie.
>
> Not trying to stir up anything, but have any of the women ever been
alleged
> to be doping? I can't recall anything, but I've only been following
cycling
> in the last year. Just curious, iow.
>
> -B
>
>

The poster child for women doping...Tammy Thomas was banned for life.

 

[Kurgan Gringioni]

warren wrote:
> In article <[email protected]>, Sierraman
> <[email protected]> wrote:
> > The
> > women don't race for the big money so I guess there is less
pressure to
> > cheat to get results. I would like to think most of the girls are
clean. I
> > like the girls anyway, underdogs, second fiddle to the men.
>
> A woman might have more incentive to cheat. Every bit of prize money
> received and every preme won is often needed just to keep racing at
> all-a lot like a t3 male pro. Steroids are cheap and very effective
for
> women users. But I hope you're right.



Goddamm, you're stupid.

Less money = more incentive to cheat? Moronic.

Would you risk your health and your reputation for $500?

How about for $500,000?

I never did dope, not for the $500 on the line at local Fattie races.
But for hundreds of thousands, I would have given it very serious
consideration.


K. Gringioni

 

[Badger_South]

On Thu, 23 Sep 2004 21:31:21 -0700, "RWM" <[email protected]> wrote:

>
>"Badger_South" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>> On Thu, 23 Sep 2004 18:09:09 -0700, "Sierraman" <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>> >
>> >OK, Tyler dodged the bullet so far. I can't believe Lance would be caught
>> >doping to the gills. I still think Lance is clean. (But) if Lance is
>found
>> >to be waist deep in ****, then that's the last straw for me. I don't
>follow
>> >the men that much anyway, and that would really turn me off. I mostly
>just
>> >enjoy following the womens slice of the whole pie.
>>
>> Not trying to stir up anything, but have any of the women ever been
>alleged
>> to be doping? I can't recall anything, but I've only been following
>cycling
>> in the last year. Just curious, iow.
>>
>> -B
>>
>>
>
>The poster child for women doping...Tammy Thomas was banned for life.

http://www.uci.ch/data_2001/track/worlds/pix/sf_podium.jpg

Hmm, looks like a guy in a wig. ;-)

-B

 

[B. Lafferty]

"Kurgan Gringioni" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Would you risk your health and your reputation for $500?
>

ROTFL

 

[Andy Coggan]

"Kurgan Gringioni" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...

> I never did dope, not for the $500 on the line at local Fattie races.
> But for hundreds of thousands, I would have given it very serious
> consideration.

Why am I not surprised?

Andy Coggan

 

[Bob Schwartz]

Kurgan Gringioni <[email protected]> wrote:
> Goddamm, you're stupid.

> Less money = more incentive to cheat? Moronic.

> Would you risk your health and your reputation for $500?

> How about for $500,000?

I used to believe in the profit motive to doping as
outlined above. Tammy Thomas changed my mind. I now
believe there are non-monetary rewards that are
valued highly enough to cause people to do goofy
**** that is not justified by the financial returns
alone.

You can see examples of this at just about any local
race. If you go to Superweek you can see it in bulk.
Dave Fuentes is probably the best known example of
doping for profit at that level, and he'd be better
off financially if he just went out and got a job.

Bob Schwartz
[email protected]

 

[Tom Arsenault]

Badger_South <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> On Thu, 23 Sep 2004 21:31:21 -0700, "RWM" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >
> >"Badger_South" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> >news:[email protected]...
> >> On Thu, 23 Sep 2004 18:09:09 -0700, "Sierraman" <[email protected]>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> >
> >> >OK, Tyler dodged the bullet so far. I can't believe Lance would be caught
> >> >doping to the gills. I still think Lance is clean. (But) if Lance is
> found
> >> >to be waist deep in ****, then that's the last straw for me. I don't
> follow
> >> >the men that much anyway, and that would really turn me off. I mostly
> just
> >> >enjoy following the womens slice of the whole pie.
> >>
> >> Not trying to stir up anything, but have any of the women ever been
> alleged
> >> to be doping? I can't recall anything, but I've only been following
> cycling
> >> in the last year. Just curious, iow.
> >>
> >> -B
> >>
> >>
> >
> >The poster child for women doping...Tammy Thomas was banned for life.
>
> http://www.uci.ch/data_2001/track/worlds/pix/sf_podium.jpg
>
> Hmm, looks like a guy in a wig. ;-)
>
> -B

Check out the edition of today's (24-Sep-04) letters to
Cyclingnews.com and tell me that most of the American public is snowed
under by Hamilton being purely innocent even though some of the
evidence, so far, suggests otherwise. People are crazy! An
American doping? NEVER! Sheep...

Tom

 

[gym gravity]

Bob Schwartz wrote:
> and he'd be better
> off financially if he just went out and got a job.
>
Work wouldn't be as fun, though. Prolonged adolescence, that's what
he's living for. Eternal frat boy.

 

[Alex Rodriguez]

In article <[email protected]>,
[email protected] says...

>Check out the edition of today's (24-Sep-04) letters to
>Cyclingnews.com and tell me that most of the American public is snowed
>under by Hamilton being purely innocent even though some of the
>evidence, so far, suggests otherwise. People are crazy! An
>American doping? NEVER! Sheep...

Nothing wrong with waiting till all the evidence is seen. It does look
bad at the moment for Tyler. In America it is innocent until proven guilty
beyond a reasonable doubt.
------------
Alex

 

[Rik Van Diesel]

"Kurgan Gringioni" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> warren wrote:

> Goddamm, you're stupid.
>
> Less money = more incentive to cheat? Moronic.
>
> Would you risk your health and your reputation for $500?
>
> How about for $500,000?
>
> I never did dope, not for the $500 on the line at local Fattie races.
> But for hundreds of thousands, I would have given it very serious
> consideration.
>
>
> K. Gringioni

I couldn't agree more. Basically there are 5 cyclist in the US that
are allowed to dope based on Salaries. All other are retards.*** By
the way what really hurts the average "pro" cyclist is that even if
they doped to the gills they probably wouldn't be make a real living
out of the sport do to lack of talent.

1. Lance
2. Tyler
3. George
4. Levi
5. Freddy
6. ***Special excemption
---------
7. Tom D. maybe next year

RVD
*** Special excemption. I am assuming that even most loser cyclist
could make a reasonable living doing something else, and would be
better off financially. If you tell me that cycling was your way out
off the mean streets of Santa Monica, Cal and it was either dope and
make $10k a year as a cyclist or a life of crime and stealing **** out
of my luxury auto when I park at night, you too can be on the list of
allowed dopers.

 

[Kurgan Gringioni]

Andy Coggan wrote:
> "Kurgan Gringioni" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>
> > I never did dope, not for the $500 on the line at local Fattie
races.
> > But for hundreds of thousands, I would have given it very serious
> > consideration.
>
> Why am I not surprised?
>
> Andy Coggan


Dumbass -

Just because you won't doesn't mean others won't. Considering how many
people pay for the privilege of dumping illegal drugs into their bodies
in the hopes of having a good time, you can be sure that even more
would be willing to do it when there's money to be made.
K. Gringioni
not as ego-centric as Cooglian

 

[Kurgan Gringioni]

Bob Schwartz wrote:
> Kurgan Gringioni <[email protected]> wrote:
> > Goddamm, you're stupid.
>
> > Less money = more incentive to cheat? Moronic.
>
> > Would you risk your health and your reputation for $500?
>
> > How about for $500,000?
>
> I used to believe in the profit motive to doping as
> outlined above. Tammy Thomas changed my mind. I now
> believe there are non-monetary rewards that are
> valued highly enough to cause people to do goofy
> **** that is not justified by the financial returns
> alone.



Dumbass -

You're missing the point. Warren was arguing that less money = more
incentive.

 

[Sierraman]

"Rik Van Diesel" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> "Kurgan Gringioni" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:<[email protected]>...
> > warren wrote:
>
> > Goddamm, you're stupid.
> >
> > Less money = more incentive to cheat? Moronic.
> >
> > Would you risk your health and your reputation for $500?
> >
> > How about for $500,000?
> >
> > I never did dope, not for the $500 on the line at local Fattie races.
> > But for hundreds of thousands, I would have given it very serious
> > consideration.
> >
> >
> > K. Gringioni
>
> I couldn't agree more. Basically there are 5 cyclist in the US that
> are allowed to dope based on Salaries. All other are retards.*** By
> the way what really hurts the average "pro" cyclist is that even if
> they doped to the gills they probably wouldn't be make a real living
> out of the sport do to lack of talent.
>
> 1. Lance
> 2. Tyler
> 3. George
> 4. Levi
> 5. Freddy
> 6. ***Special excemption
> ---------
> 7. Tom D. maybe next year
>
> RVD
> *** Special excemption. I am assuming that even most loser cyclist
> could make a reasonable living doing something else, and would be
> better off financially. If you tell me that cycling was your way out
> off the mean streets of Santa Monica, Cal and it was either dope and
> make $10k a year as a cyclist or a life of crime and stealing **** out
> of my luxury auto when I park at night, you too can be on the list of
> allowed dopers.

Just curious, how's the Santa Monica pier doing these days? That place used
to be pretty cool when I was a kid. Old guys playing chess, P.O.P. and of
course all the cool shops both on the pier and just slightly inland. I heard
Maria Shriver was shopping over there the other day. Isn't that Brat pack
country?