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Roger Martin
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"Plodder" <CORNED BEEF@NOSPAM> wrote in message
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> Roger wrote:
>
> > > Why don't we do it in the road? A new school of
> > > traffic design says we should get rid of stop signs
and
> > red
> > > lights and let cars, bikes and people mingle together.
> > > It sounds
insane,
> > but
> > > it works.
> > >
> > Interesting concept which does not work - fatality
> > accidents and serious injury accidents throughout
> > countries which have next to no road rules
are
> > horrendous once out of the low speed congested areas.
> > City traffic flows
> at
> > the speed of the bikes therefore any impacts are low
> > speed and end up
with
> a
> > few harsh words and maybe a skinned knuckle.
> >
> > As for trying it in Aus - our traffic moves faster - we
> > dont have
> congested
> > roads by any world standard - you can drive at 100kph
> > and be expected to stop - bikes are a name for an easy
> > woman.
>
> I agree, the concept probably wouldn't work outside of
> cities and suburban areas, especially in Aus where people
> travel many kilometers at high
speeds
> as a matter of course. Nevertheless, I see no reason why
> the concept couldn't work in residential areas. Why not an
> artery system of major
roads
> retaining current road rules for high-speed, long-
> distance travel,
changing
> to the "intrigue" concept in city and residential streets?
> You can get to where you want fast and when you get there,
> you slow down. Doesn't seem hard...
>
> Frank
>
I drove in France when the give way to the right rule was
applied on practically every road - ie travelling along a
main road and a poxy little one lane side road with a
tractor/2CV/herd of goats would just come straight out. The
accidents were horrendous - but probably did more to reduce
the collective IQ of the French.
As for my previous post about congested roads in Aus - is
there one Australian city that takes longer than 1 hour in
peak hour traffic to cross? Paris used to take about 4
hours in normal traffic, London at least 2 from the end of
the M1 to the M23, Amsterdam - just one long congested road
from Rotherdam to Amsterdam, Brusselles the queues started
in Oostende.
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> Roger wrote:
>
> > > Why don't we do it in the road? A new school of
> > > traffic design says we should get rid of stop signs
and
> > red
> > > lights and let cars, bikes and people mingle together.
> > > It sounds
insane,
> > but
> > > it works.
> > >
> > Interesting concept which does not work - fatality
> > accidents and serious injury accidents throughout
> > countries which have next to no road rules
are
> > horrendous once out of the low speed congested areas.
> > City traffic flows
> at
> > the speed of the bikes therefore any impacts are low
> > speed and end up
with
> a
> > few harsh words and maybe a skinned knuckle.
> >
> > As for trying it in Aus - our traffic moves faster - we
> > dont have
> congested
> > roads by any world standard - you can drive at 100kph
> > and be expected to stop - bikes are a name for an easy
> > woman.
>
> I agree, the concept probably wouldn't work outside of
> cities and suburban areas, especially in Aus where people
> travel many kilometers at high
speeds
> as a matter of course. Nevertheless, I see no reason why
> the concept couldn't work in residential areas. Why not an
> artery system of major
roads
> retaining current road rules for high-speed, long-
> distance travel,
changing
> to the "intrigue" concept in city and residential streets?
> You can get to where you want fast and when you get there,
> you slow down. Doesn't seem hard...
>
> Frank
>
I drove in France when the give way to the right rule was
applied on practically every road - ie travelling along a
main road and a poxy little one lane side road with a
tractor/2CV/herd of goats would just come straight out. The
accidents were horrendous - but probably did more to reduce
the collective IQ of the French.
As for my previous post about congested roads in Aus - is
there one Australian city that takes longer than 1 hour in
peak hour traffic to cross? Paris used to take about 4
hours in normal traffic, London at least 2 from the end of
the M1 to the M23, Amsterdam - just one long congested road
from Rotherdam to Amsterdam, Brusselles the queues started
in Oostende.