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Roger Martin
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"Plodder" <CORNED BEEF@NOSPAM> wrote in message
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> Roger wrote:
>
> > > Why don't we do it in the road?
> > > A new school of traffic design says we should get rid of stop signs
and
> > red
> > > lights and let cars, bikes and people mingle together. It sounds
insane,
> > but
> > > it works.
> > >
> > Interesting concept which does not work - fatality accidents and serious
> > injury accidents throughout countries which have next to no road rules
are
> > horrendous once out of the low speed congested areas. City traffic flows
> at
> > the speed of the bikes therefore any impacts are low speed and end up
with
> a
> > few harsh words and maybe a skinned knuckle.
> >
> > As for trying it in Aus - our traffic moves faster - we dont have
> congested
> > roads by any world standard - you can drive at 100kph and be expected to
> > stop - bikes are a name for an easy woman.
>
> I agree, the concept probably wouldn't work outside of cities and suburban
> areas, especially in Aus where people travel many kilometers at high
speeds
> as a matter of course. Nevertheless, I see no reason why the concept
> couldn't work in residential areas. Why not an artery system of major
roads
> retaining current road rules for high-speed, long-distance travel,
changing
> to the "intrigue" concept in city and residential streets? You can get to
> where you want fast and when you get there, you slow down. Doesn't seem
> hard...
>
> Frank
>
I drove in France when the give way to the right rule was applied on
practically every road - ie travelling along a main road and a poxy little
one lane side road with a tractor/2CV/herd of goats would just come straight
out. The accidents were horrendous - but probably did more to reduce the
collective IQ of the French.
As for my previous post about congested roads in Aus - is there one
Australian city that takes longer than 1 hour in peak hour traffic to cross?
Paris used to take about 4 hours in normal traffic, London at least 2 from
the end of the M1 to the M23, Amsterdam - just one long congested road from
Rotherdam to Amsterdam, Brusselles the queues started in Oostende.
news:[email protected]...
> Roger wrote:
>
> > > Why don't we do it in the road?
> > > A new school of traffic design says we should get rid of stop signs
and
> > red
> > > lights and let cars, bikes and people mingle together. It sounds
insane,
> > but
> > > it works.
> > >
> > Interesting concept which does not work - fatality accidents and serious
> > injury accidents throughout countries which have next to no road rules
are
> > horrendous once out of the low speed congested areas. City traffic flows
> at
> > the speed of the bikes therefore any impacts are low speed and end up
with
> a
> > few harsh words and maybe a skinned knuckle.
> >
> > As for trying it in Aus - our traffic moves faster - we dont have
> congested
> > roads by any world standard - you can drive at 100kph and be expected to
> > stop - bikes are a name for an easy woman.
>
> I agree, the concept probably wouldn't work outside of cities and suburban
> areas, especially in Aus where people travel many kilometers at high
speeds
> as a matter of course. Nevertheless, I see no reason why the concept
> couldn't work in residential areas. Why not an artery system of major
roads
> retaining current road rules for high-speed, long-distance travel,
changing
> to the "intrigue" concept in city and residential streets? You can get to
> where you want fast and when you get there, you slow down. Doesn't seem
> hard...
>
> Frank
>
I drove in France when the give way to the right rule was applied on
practically every road - ie travelling along a main road and a poxy little
one lane side road with a tractor/2CV/herd of goats would just come straight
out. The accidents were horrendous - but probably did more to reduce the
collective IQ of the French.
As for my previous post about congested roads in Aus - is there one
Australian city that takes longer than 1 hour in peak hour traffic to cross?
Paris used to take about 4 hours in normal traffic, London at least 2 from
the end of the M1 to the M23, Amsterdam - just one long congested road from
Rotherdam to Amsterdam, Brusselles the queues started in Oostende.
