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"Thorsten Schier" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> Phil Holman schrieb:
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> > "Thorsten Schier" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected]...
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> > > Phil Holman schrieb:
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> > > > "Brad Sheppard" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > > > news:[email protected]...
> > > > > No, in a previous post I "quacked" him as well. 2lb diet
makes no
> > > > > sense - 2lbs of fat a day is unhealthy
> > > >
> > > > 2lbs of fat a day is healthier than 4lbs of fat a day.
> > >
> > > Now, who would consume 4 lbs fat a day?
> >
> > My point exactly. It's probably the same mythical person who would consume 2lbs of fat on
> > the 2PD.
>
> And what about a person that eats 200 g of chocolate and 100 g of almonds per day, plus some other
> food like pasta, pizza, bread, sausages, meat and the like?
>
> Such a person would probably consume way more than 2000 calories per
day
> (the chocolate and the almonds alone amount to 1700-1800) and yet not exceeding 2 lbs. Most people
> would find it hard to lose weight on such
a
> diet. And this diet is hardly "mythical" or farfetched.
It's a real stretch of the imagination for someone who is intending to lose or maintain weight.
>
> > >
> > > > 2lbs of regular food a day is probably healthier than 4lbs. Do
you
> > see
> > > > how this works?
> > >
> > > I wouldn't be too sure about this. It depends on the person and on
> > what
> > > you consider "regular food".
> > >
> > > If a person consumes a lot of food with a high water content like vegetables, fruit, soups or
> > > milk and is reasonably active, 4 lbs
might
> > > be just fine.
> >
> > In that case they shouldn't have a weight problem and there would be
no
> > need to diet. Balancing the input/output equation is key.
>
> So this person must be doing something right. Wouldn't it be a good
idea
> to try to do the same instead of restricting oneself to an arbitrarly chosen amount of food
> like 2 lbs?
>
It isn't working so far and from what I witness it's not about what kind of food, it's too much food
and especially at this time of year.
> > >
> > > > There's no need to pretend being a moron to make it look like it doesn't work. Unless of
> > > > course you ...........oh never mind.
> > >
> > > There's also no need to imply that other people are either morons
or
> > > dishonest if they disagree with you ...
> >
> > It's called rhetoric. The continual argument plied here in
opposition of
> > eating less usually centers around brain dead food choices (2 lbs of fat).
>
> I think none here would argue against eating less for persons who simply eat too much. Most
> persons however just seem to eat all the
wrong
> things. They might profit more from healthier food choices then from eating just less of the
> wrong things.
So how much information and how many diet plans are out their making good money by advising
healthier food choices. I can't speak for the rest of the world but here in the US it isn't working.
Phil Holman
news:[email protected]...
>
>
> Phil Holman schrieb:
> >
> > "Thorsten Schier" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected]...
> > >
> > >
> > > Phil Holman schrieb:
> > > >
> > > > "Brad Sheppard" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > > > news:[email protected]...
> > > > > No, in a previous post I "quacked" him as well. 2lb diet
makes no
> > > > > sense - 2lbs of fat a day is unhealthy
> > > >
> > > > 2lbs of fat a day is healthier than 4lbs of fat a day.
> > >
> > > Now, who would consume 4 lbs fat a day?
> >
> > My point exactly. It's probably the same mythical person who would consume 2lbs of fat on
> > the 2PD.
>
> And what about a person that eats 200 g of chocolate and 100 g of almonds per day, plus some other
> food like pasta, pizza, bread, sausages, meat and the like?
>
> Such a person would probably consume way more than 2000 calories per
day
> (the chocolate and the almonds alone amount to 1700-1800) and yet not exceeding 2 lbs. Most people
> would find it hard to lose weight on such
a
> diet. And this diet is hardly "mythical" or farfetched.
It's a real stretch of the imagination for someone who is intending to lose or maintain weight.
>
> > >
> > > > 2lbs of regular food a day is probably healthier than 4lbs. Do
you
> > see
> > > > how this works?
> > >
> > > I wouldn't be too sure about this. It depends on the person and on
> > what
> > > you consider "regular food".
> > >
> > > If a person consumes a lot of food with a high water content like vegetables, fruit, soups or
> > > milk and is reasonably active, 4 lbs
might
> > > be just fine.
> >
> > In that case they shouldn't have a weight problem and there would be
no
> > need to diet. Balancing the input/output equation is key.
>
> So this person must be doing something right. Wouldn't it be a good
idea
> to try to do the same instead of restricting oneself to an arbitrarly chosen amount of food
> like 2 lbs?
>
It isn't working so far and from what I witness it's not about what kind of food, it's too much food
and especially at this time of year.
> > >
> > > > There's no need to pretend being a moron to make it look like it doesn't work. Unless of
> > > > course you ...........oh never mind.
> > >
> > > There's also no need to imply that other people are either morons
or
> > > dishonest if they disagree with you ...
> >
> > It's called rhetoric. The continual argument plied here in
opposition of
> > eating less usually centers around brain dead food choices (2 lbs of fat).
>
> I think none here would argue against eating less for persons who simply eat too much. Most
> persons however just seem to eat all the
wrong
> things. They might profit more from healthier food choices then from eating just less of the
> wrong things.
So how much information and how many diet plans are out their making good money by advising
healthier food choices. I can't speak for the rest of the world but here in the US it isn't working.
Phil Holman