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<32114099-7edf-4404-8888-5a04e90bda2d@z32g2000prh.googlegroups.com>,
"Paul G." <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Jun 23, 9:50 pm, Robert Chung <[email protected]> wrote:
> > On Jun 23, 9:28 pm, [email protected] wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > > On Jun 23, 10:01 pm, Robert Chung <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > > > On Jun 23, 8:24 pm, [email protected] wrote:
> >
> > > > > A few things that have me perplexed:
> >
> > > > > 1) the earth stopped its most recent warming cycle in 1998
> > > > > 2) the earth cooled enough in the last few years to give back all the
> > > > > warming from the previous century
> > > > > 3) the oceans stopped heating roughly 7 years ago, and have begun to
> > > > > cool
> > > > > 4) the earth's warming cycles correspond almost perfectly with solar
> > > > > activity, but not so perfectly w/ human behavior or CO2 emission
> > > > > levels or CO2 atmospheric levels
> >
> > > > Perhaps the reason you're perplexed is because you haven't looked at
> > > > the data:
> >
> > > >http://anonymous.coward.free.fr/temp/hadsst2gl.pnghttp://anonymous.co...
> >
> > > Very pretty charts. I suppose you'll have us believe that a 0.4
> > > degree change in surface temperature is major, when the experts say
> > > that it's not surface temps that matter. Oh, wait... you're trotting
> > > out the data that supports your believes, regardless of conflicting
> > > data.
> >
> > Hmmm.
> >
> > You claimed "that the earth cooled enough in the last few years to
> > give back all the warming from the previous century." The first plot
> > showed that not to be true. The SST temperature is still almost 1
> > degree celsius warmer than a century ago.
> >
> > Second, that's about 0.4 degrees celsius worth of warming in about 25
> > years -- so yeah, that's pretty major.
> >
> > Third, you claimed that the Earth "stopped its most recent warming
> > cycle in 1998." The data show that 1998 was an extreme blip but that
> > warming has continued since then.
> >
> > Fourth, you claim that "earth's warming cycles correspond almost
> > perfectly with solar activity, but not so perfectly w/ human behavior
> > or CO2 emission levels or CO2 atmospheric levels." The second plot
> > shows global sea-land temperature, solar activity, and CO2 level. I'd
> > say global temperature corresponds much more closely to CO2 level than
> > to solar activity.
> >
> > No wonder you're perplexed. Denial will do that.
>
> Right. There is no question that rising CO2 levels result in warming.
There is doubt, else why do you even have to deny it?
--
Michael Press
<32114099-7edf-4404-8888-5a04e90bda2d@z32g2000prh.googlegroups.com>,
"Paul G." <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Jun 23, 9:50 pm, Robert Chung <[email protected]> wrote:
> > On Jun 23, 9:28 pm, [email protected] wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > > On Jun 23, 10:01 pm, Robert Chung <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > > > On Jun 23, 8:24 pm, [email protected] wrote:
> >
> > > > > A few things that have me perplexed:
> >
> > > > > 1) the earth stopped its most recent warming cycle in 1998
> > > > > 2) the earth cooled enough in the last few years to give back all the
> > > > > warming from the previous century
> > > > > 3) the oceans stopped heating roughly 7 years ago, and have begun to
> > > > > cool
> > > > > 4) the earth's warming cycles correspond almost perfectly with solar
> > > > > activity, but not so perfectly w/ human behavior or CO2 emission
> > > > > levels or CO2 atmospheric levels
> >
> > > > Perhaps the reason you're perplexed is because you haven't looked at
> > > > the data:
> >
> > > >http://anonymous.coward.free.fr/temp/hadsst2gl.pnghttp://anonymous.co...
> >
> > > Very pretty charts. I suppose you'll have us believe that a 0.4
> > > degree change in surface temperature is major, when the experts say
> > > that it's not surface temps that matter. Oh, wait... you're trotting
> > > out the data that supports your believes, regardless of conflicting
> > > data.
> >
> > Hmmm.
> >
> > You claimed "that the earth cooled enough in the last few years to
> > give back all the warming from the previous century." The first plot
> > showed that not to be true. The SST temperature is still almost 1
> > degree celsius warmer than a century ago.
> >
> > Second, that's about 0.4 degrees celsius worth of warming in about 25
> > years -- so yeah, that's pretty major.
> >
> > Third, you claimed that the Earth "stopped its most recent warming
> > cycle in 1998." The data show that 1998 was an extreme blip but that
> > warming has continued since then.
> >
> > Fourth, you claim that "earth's warming cycles correspond almost
> > perfectly with solar activity, but not so perfectly w/ human behavior
> > or CO2 emission levels or CO2 atmospheric levels." The second plot
> > shows global sea-land temperature, solar activity, and CO2 level. I'd
> > say global temperature corresponds much more closely to CO2 level than
> > to solar activity.
> >
> > No wonder you're perplexed. Denial will do that.
>
> Right. There is no question that rising CO2 levels result in warming.
There is doubt, else why do you even have to deny it?
--
Michael Press