"Julianne" <
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minors
> in the church. I can think of no excuse. However, from a different perspective, it is true that
> children are most likely to suffer harm at
the
> hand of their parents. Does this mean that all parents should be
considered
> as child abusers.
>
> I don't think that the church is as much a breeding ground for pedophiles
as
> it is an attempted refuge.
>>>>A poor selection of words by me, but can't agree on it being an
attempted refuge.
I suspect that many of these men are so
> horrified by their desires that the seek a celibate life.
>>>>>>>If they are aware they have a problem and are horrified by their
desire to molest children, then they would seek medical help, not become a priest where their
desires could be more easily satisfied, this would be a conscious decision for them. A reforming
acoholic would not seek employment as a barman.
Like the rest of
of
> means harming someone.
>
> So the numbers of pedophiles does not surprise me. What does disappoint
me
> enormously is the past unwillingness of the church to openly address these issues. As far as I
> know (or have read or heard), these issues weren't
even
> addressed internally in the form of education, provision counseling, therapy, etc. Going back to
> my contention that many of the offenders originally sought refuge in the church because they felt
> a celibate life would have protected them and children, it seems reasonable that this variety of
> pedophile would have been more likely to seek pre-emptive help for overwhelming urges.
>>>>>>More likely they entered the church because of the *easy pickings*.
>
> I saw a documentary once on the Discovery Channel. There is a
psychiatrist
> in Boston who treats would be pedophiles. He uses chemical sterilization with hormones. The
> problem is that treatment is more suitable for non-offenders.
they would be sent to prison
Once a person crosses the line and actually molests a child,
> they are a criminal. It is rare for someone to seek help prior to that first occasion, according
> to the documentary. However, when they do, treatment is generally successful. If the Catholic
> Church axed celibacy, it might help the problem within the church
>>>>>>>10,600 reasons to give it a go.
but I don't think the overall total number of pedophiles would
> decrease.
>>>>>>>I agree, It's my understanding that pedophilia can not be cured
except by chemical castration maybe. Perhaps a law to have all offending pedophile chemically
castrated?
As a Catholic I have strong feelings about the church but I
> assure you that not all of them are in favor of the world's largest institution. The reason for
> celibacy is essentially to keep the wealth of the church within the church. Wives and babies need
> to be supported. Property is willed to offspring and survivors. The death of a priest
might
> allow his wife to have legal claim of some of the church wealth. Women, capable of producing
> offspring, are also not allowed to become ordained. Heaven forbid the Vatican would have to sell
> some of it's art to pay off
art
> to support large families.
>>>>>>"The worlds largest institution" and probably one of the richest,
I wonder if they have read: (Matthew 19:16-21. See also Luke 12:33)
> But, I also live in a community where there are so many good practicing Catholics who have
> fully embraced charity and love as a way of life that I am continually reminded that there is
> the church, a healthy entity that controls vast wealth, and then there is millions of people
> who share a
faith
> that promotes love and goodness. Catholics are okay by me. I have issues with Vatican politics!
>>>>>>Let's not forget the victims.
Smoke
>
> j
>
> "Smoke" <
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> > A perfect breeding place for paedophiles, it's all over the news her in
> Ozz
> > at the moment as well. Here in Ozz there have been several priest prosecuted for just that, but
> > this only happened after those that were molested came forward and would
> not
> > be paid off. The church knew about what was happening and merely counselled the
> offending
> > priest's and transferred them to another parish where they were free to
do
> > it again. Most practising Christians are good people and we shouldn't allow their
> good
> > selves to be tarnished by what these priest's have done. Perhaps if the Catholic Church axed
> > celibacy things would be different? In the OT God has himself either ordered or participated
> > in some
horrific
> > events, but I can't recall any of molestation, so IMO no, it is not
"God's
> > way".
> >
> > Smoke
> >
> >
> > "Listener" <
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> > > 2-27-04
> > >
> > > "NEW YORK (Reuters) - More than 10,600 children have reported being molested by priests since
> > > 1950, according to two studies that found
> > > abuse involving at least 4 percent of priests, The New York Times reported on Friday. "
> > >
> > > God's way?
> > >
> > > Can you imagine the sufffering this has exponentially caused...... Of course, that study
> > > doesn't include the many children who have NOT reported it!
> > >
> > >
> > > (Hey CAUSers, do you think the studies were rigged?)
> > >
> > > L.
> >
>
