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soup wrote:

> Any one else get too hot cycling ? Was out yesterday
> with a jacket on felt like purgatory,

a jacket is only suitable if it's cold and raining hard and will be
for the rest of the journey. Thats the problem with wearing jackets,
you can't easily store them esp. if you wear them on a morning commute
and are stuck with them for the warmer homeward journey. Better to wear
layers.


was out today in a
> short sleeved t-shirt (by jings they grow them hardy in
> jockland) :) seemed a lot easier .


It was 10deg this morning in London with a nippy wind and some rain.
A summer cycle jersey wouldn't have been enough on its own so I use my
De Marchi long-sleeved base layer under the jersey. My knees were a
little cold so tomorrow if its the same conditions I'll start using the
knee warmers.

>
> Have always been the type who prefers to be in doors
> on really sunny days.

An ideal time to get out and enjoy the breeze !


>
> What is the preference for tops when cycling, is it the
> cycling jersey and a small waterproof jacket ? I am
> talking fairish winter/autumn riding if the weather is very
> dire would get the bus or walk.

Riding all year round makes those summer days *so* much more enjoyable.
It's possible with the right clothing, gloves and overshoes

davep
 
Any one else get too hot cycling ? Was out yesterday
with a jacket on felt like purgatory, was out today in a
short sleeved t-shirt (by jings they grow them hardy in
jockland) :) seemed a lot easier .

May not get too hot when my fitness goes up then I
won't be working so hard, mmm cancel that will probably
just up the speed till I am working as hard.

Have always been the type who prefers to be in doors
on really sunny days. Don't wear a h*lm*t because to
me it is just a couple of inches of insulation strapped to
your (TINY) head.

What is the preference for tops when cycling, is it the
cycling jersey and a small waterproof jacket ? I am
talking fairish winter/autumn riding if the weather is very
dire would get the bus or walk.

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On 13/10/04 11:15 am, in article
[email protected], "soup"
<[email protected]> wrote:

> What is the preference for tops when cycling, is it the
> cycling jersey and a small waterproof jacket ? I am
> talking fairish winter/autumn riding if the weather is very
> dire would get the bus or walk.


It's not just you.
Above 10C I just wear a cycle jersey and shorts. If raining (rather than
soft) I add a waterproof over the top.

Below that, I would add a thermal shirt under the jersey (for fine days) or
just add the waterproof (for less fine days). And a fleece for when I stop.

When it gets to around freezing or lower then I add a few more layers. Still
end up toasty though.

...d
 
soup wrote:
> Any one else get too hot cycling ?


In a waterproof, frequently, in a windproof sometimes.

> What is the preference for tops when cycling, is it the
> cycling jersey and a small waterproof jacket ? I am
> talking fairish winter/autumn riding


Usually one of Paramo's reversible tops with cool side active, I can
swap it over if I'm getting chilly. If it starts getting nippier I'll
supplement that with a thin pertex wind jacket.

Pete.
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soup wrote:
> Any one else get too hot cycling ? Was out yesterday
> with a jacket on felt like purgatory,


I would do if I wore anything more than very light and breathable
clothing, in autumnal weather.

> was out today in a
> short sleeved t-shirt (by jings they grow them hardy in
> jockland) :) seemed a lot easier .


For when that gets too cold, get yourself a thin non-waterproof
*windproof* jacket or gilet. That'll keep the chill off without boiling
the contents.

~PB
 
On Wed, 13 Oct 2004 10:15:29 GMT, soup wrote:
> What is the preference for tops when cycling, [...]
> I am talking fairish winter/autumn riding


Thin longsleeve under shirt ("Odlo Light"/"Helly Lifa"), bib short with
long mesh/lycra back, heavy lycra leg warmers, short sleeve cycling
jersey, gilet (either fairly light 'wind resistant', or heavier akin to
Windstopper), heavy duty "Super Roubaix" arm warmers (on sunny days in
the backpocket), gloves depending on temp./rain: polypropylene base
layer or fleece/windstopper or neoprene, shoe covers also dep. on
temp./rain: none or windstopper or neoprene, wooly hat (solo/duo ride)
or helmet. Very light neon-yellow rain jacket in backpocket.

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In message <[email protected]>, Pete Biggs
<pblackcherry{remove_fruit}@biggs.tc> writes
>soup wrote:
>> Any one else get too hot cycling ? Was out yesterday
>> with a jacket on felt like purgatory,

>
>I would do if I wore anything more than very light and breathable
>clothing, in autumnal weather.
>
>> was out today in a
>> short sleeved t-shirt (by jings they grow them hardy in
>> jockland) :) seemed a lot easier .

>
>For when that gets too cold, get yourself a thin non-waterproof
>*windproof* jacket or gilet. That'll keep the chill off without boiling
>the contents.
>

Yep, I only wear my waterproof when its raining, or on short trips where
the overheating isn't an issue - such as tootling to the shops. normal
outer wear is a pertex windproof top

Too cool for me now to be wearing a short sleeved top now most of the
time. I would normally be wearing a long sleeved top with the above
Pertex top over if necessary (my tops are usually multipurpose
synthetic 'wicking' tops rather than cycling tops). If it gets colder
then I use a thicker top or stick a T shirt layer on as well etc.. For
steady cycling this will keep be enough for me until it gets down
towards freezing when I might stick a light weight fleece under or over
the top.

I find that I need to give myself 10 minutes to get up to 'working temp'
which means in winter I go out and feel bloody freezing for the first
few minutes, if I'm not warm enough by 10 minutes then I need another
layer. I've got a little stick on window thermometer (well I had one,
I've not found it since last spring when it got removed...) I can
usually judge pretty well by the temp what I will need.
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On Wed, 13 Oct 2004 13:24:07 +0100, Helen Deborah Vecht wrote:
> When wearig a h*lm*t, I was too hot until the temperature dropped to -5°C...


But Helen, you're always hot.

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in message <[email protected]>, soup
('[email protected]') wrote:

> Any one else get too hot cycling ?


Yes, frequently. A particular problem, also, is getting chilled going
down hill or when you stop.

> What is the preference for tops when cycling, is it the
> cycling jersey and a small waterproof jacket ? I am
> talking fairish winter/autumn riding if the weather is very
> dire would get the bus or walk.


I've taken to wearing a long sleeved cycling jersey with a windproof
gilet over it. The gilet zips right down the front so when you're going
uphill you zip it right open, and then at the top you zip it closed
again. Thin layers you can take off are also good if you have a bag
with you.

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On Wed, 13 Oct 2004 15:05:03 GMT, Simon Brooke <[email protected]>
wrote:

>in message <[email protected]>, soup
>('[email protected]') wrote:
>
>> Any one else get too hot cycling ?

>
>Yes, frequently. A particular problem, also, is getting chilled going
>down hill or when you stop.
>


Yep, me too. I also think it depends on our own body temperature
settings (metabolism), and the type of cycling we all do. When I was
time trialling ALL my best times were on cold dark dank drizzly
horrible days (more O2 in the air as well I think), most others were
slower I was always quicker.

A bight sunny wind still 26 degree summers day and I was hopeless
(well minutes slower then) others loved it.

When I'm out riding now, I always carry a wooly hat in my back pocket,
just so that if I do have to stop (puncture) I put in on (even if
sweating) to stop the heat loss until I get going again.

Maybe I should train with my turbo in the fridge !!
 
"soup" <[email protected]> of wrote:
> Any one else get too hot cycling ? Was out yesterday
>with a jacket on felt like purgatory, was out today in a
>short sleeved t-shirt (by jings they grow them hardy in
>jockland) :) seemed a lot easier .

I cycle to work, and after 5 minutes cool down from cycling I put on an
extra layer to keep me warm while sitting at a desk.

> May not get too hot when my fitness goes up then I
>won't be working so hard, mmm cancel that will probably
>just up the speed till I am working as hard.

I got fit once, but it didn't change my basic tendency to get very hot while
cycling, I just went faster.

> Have always been the type who prefers to be in doors
>on really sunny days. Don't wear a h*lm*t because to
>me it is just a couple of inches of insulation strapped to
>your (TINY) head.

I had to wear one while in New Zealand in spring. I got so overheated going
up a long hill that I felt faint and had to stop the bike. As there was
probably nothing more sentient than a sheep within 5 miles, I decided to
take the helmet off while riding up hill as the lesser risk.

> What is the preference for tops when cycling, is it the
> cycling jersey and a small waterproof jacket ? I am
> talking fairish winter/autumn riding if the weather is very
> dire would get the bus or walk.

Pick any two of T shirt, sweat shirt or light windproof jacket. All three
only worn when it's below 5C, or for a five minute dash to the shops when
there isn't time to warm up.
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soup wrote:
> What is the preference for tops when cycling, is it the
> cycling jersey and a small waterproof jacket ? I am
> talking fairish winter/autumn riding if the weather is very
> dire would get the bus or walk.


I only ever wear the waterproof if it's proper heavy rain, otherwise
it's too hot.

I think the ideal is to dress up warm at the start of your journey but
be able to remove some layers once you've warmed up - I usually wear my
full-length tights and long-sleeved thermal lycra jersey at the moment
but they do tend to leave me steaming a bit once I've got going so I'm
thinking of getting some arm and leg warmers instead, that can be easily
removed en route if I feel too warm, and save the full winter garb for
when the weather makes it really necessary.

d.
 
On Wed, 13 Oct 2004 10:15:29 GMT, "soup"
<[email protected]> wrote:

> What is the preference for tops when cycling, is it the
> cycling jersey and a small waterproof jacket ? I am
> talking fairish winter/autumn riding if the weather is very
> dire would get the bus or walk.


Head-to-toe Goretex suits me.