i confirmed that they were indeed made by ambrosio as i called and
spoke to someone over in italy. made and rebadged for torelli, miele
and several other franch and italian brands at the time.
as originally poseted...the issue with mounting tires was due to a
change from a 606 to a 611 ERD. i confirmed that was well.
from the stack of 10 i have...plus the other 2 pairs....they all seem
to weigh between 401g and 417g. they are all the 611 ERD with sockets,
non machined brake track, pinned, and shiny.
i might put them on ebay but but i'm sure they'd got for about $12 and
i'd think that's a waste.
the only problem with removing the finish from a set of open pros is
that they'd begin to tarnish shortly after and i'm not looking for more
work than i already have in maintaining a bike.
besides...when i compare the look of the master to the open pro.....the
open pro just looks too......goofy. the box section of the master is
much more pleasing, at least to my eye. and i can understand the
reason some prefer a box section over the look of the open pro.
Donald Gillies wrote:
> "sal bass" <[email protected]> writes:
>
> >ok.....so i posted this a while back and got no replies....
>
> >i found a very tall stack of these rims sitting in a bike shop, in of
> >all places, seattle, and promptly purchased them all.
>
> Made by Ambrosio (supposedly), these were discontinued by Rivendell
> (and perhaps others) because some brands of tires are hard to mount on
> these rims. I think they were listed as weighing 440 grams.
>
> On the other hand, they were the last pair of polished traditional
> (pinned) rims in production ... supposedly. With a pair of MA2 rims
> going for $100+ on ebay these days, you might try offering one pair on
> the 'bay to see what it will fetch. (be sure to mention MA2 and jobst
> just to hype it to the max ...)
>
> Today if you want polished rims, you could buy Mavic Open Pro rims and
> strip away the anodization, which is fairly easy to do ... The Open
> Sport rims are imho a backwards step from the MA3 rims ...
>
> - Don Gillies
> San Diego, CA