touring pedals?

what pedals do the experienced suggest for the ageing 50 mile sprinter whose unsure about pedals
with clips being naturally clumsy( i can see myself arrowed into a canal upsidedown still attached
to the frame) but likes nice machine work and thoughtful design but desires an upgrade from the
original japanese/taiwanese 'rattraps'if there is one?

 

"g.daniels" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> what pedals do the experienced suggest for the ageing 50 mile sprinter whose unsure about pedals
> with clips being naturally clumsy( i can see myself arrowed into a canal upsidedown still attached
> to the frame) but likes nice machine work and thoughtful design but desires an upgrade from the
> original japanese/taiwanese 'rattraps'if there is one?

I run Ritchey Logic Road pedals. They're single sided, SPD-style, and light. I typically use a
mountain bike shoe, which allows me to walk while off the bike. For these, and other SPD-style
pedals, make sure you get a good quality (i.e., stiff-soled) shoe...otherwise, you might experience
"hot foot".

Once you've gone to clipless, you won't go back. They're not as hard to get used to as you'd think,
and are actually safer (IMHO) than rat-trap pedals.

GG

 

On 5 May 2003 12:57:26 -0700, [email protected] (g.daniels) wrote:

>what pedals do the experienced suggest for the ageing 50 mile sprinter whose unsure about pedals
>with clips being naturally clumsy( i can see myself arrowed into a canal upsidedown still attached
>to the frame) but likes nice machine work and thoughtful design but desires an upgrade from the
>original japanese/taiwanese 'rattraps'if there is one?

Shimano makes a pedal that is SPD on one side and flat on the other. I think they are now called
324's. I like them very much for both commuting and touring.

Bob

 

I just bought a set of the new Shimano touring shoes (waiting on redphone order) and the chromoly
spindle Performance forte pro spd road pedals (260grams, 40 bucks). I'm riding the pedals with
mountain bike shoes right now, but the other shoes should be in any day now. They do have a good
deal on the T091 touring shoe if you're size 40 or smaller.

GaryG wrote:

> "g.daniels" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> what pedals do the experienced suggest for the ageing 50 mile sprinter whose unsure about pedals
>> with clips being naturally clumsy( i can see myself arrowed into a canal upsidedown still
>> attached to the frame) but likes nice machine work and thoughtful design but desires an upgrade
>> from the original japanese/taiwanese 'rattraps'if there is one?
>
> I run Ritchey Logic Road pedals. They're single sided, SPD-style, and light. I typically use a
> mountain bike shoe, which allows me to walk while off the bike. For these, and other SPD-style
> pedals, make sure you get a good quality (i.e., stiff-soled) shoe...otherwise, you might
> experience "hot foot".
>
> Once you've gone to clipless, you won't go back. They're not as hard to get used to as you'd
> think, and are actually safer (IMHO) than rat-trap pedals.
>
> GG

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liberty nor safety"-B.Franklin

 

I tried these, but quickly gave up. When cliped in, it was very hard to corner without scraping the
underside of the pedal. When using street shoes, I had to get used to flipping the pedal over before
starting out, since the street shoe side weighs more. Very hard to use and anoying. I replaced with
a standard SPD pedal and have no problems. If I really nee a need for street shoes, I'll get some of
those SPD compatables made for walking.

I would recomend MTB shoes, for walking purposes.

Robert Quindazzi <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> On 5 May 2003 12:57:26 -0700, [email protected] (g.daniels) wrote:
>
> >what pedals do the experienced suggest for the ageing 50 mile sprinter whose unsure about pedals
> >with clips being naturally clumsy( i can see myself arrowed into a canal upsidedown still
> >attached to the frame) but likes nice machine work and thoughtful design but desires an upgrade
> >from the original japanese/taiwanese 'rattraps'if there is one?
>
> Shimano makes a pedal that is SPD on one side and flat on the other. I think they are now called
> 324's. I like them very much for both commuting and touring.
>
> Bob

 

.

>I tried these, but quickly gave up. When cliped in, it was very hard to corner without scraping the
>underside of the pedal. When using street shoes, I had to get used to flipping the pedal over
>before starting out, since the street shoe side weighs more. Very hard to use and anoying. I
>replaced with a standard SPD pedal and have no problems. If I really nee a need for street shoes,
>I'll get some of those SPD compatables made for walking.
>
>I would recomend MTB shoes, for walking purposes.
My LBS advised e to try stiff soles to counter the soreness I get through trainers (yes! - Guilty!
I'm a fair-weather cyclist!). He then demonstrated the impressive stiffness in some of these
sixty-quid-and-more shoes. All very well and good, but I could see little flex in the instep area,
so - before I lash the cash - how easy are these things to walk in? Any recommendations? Yooors,

Iain.

 

datakoll-<< what pedals do the experienced suggest for the ageing 50 mile sprinter whose unsure
about pedals with clips being naturally clumsy( i can see myself arrowed into a canal upsidedown
still attached to the frame) but likes nice machine work and thoughtful design but desires an <<
upgrade from the original japanese/taiwanese 'rattraps'if there is one

Want to walk around-Time ATAC with some good MTB shoes, not car about walking around? Good fitting
road shoes and Speedplay Zeros...

Just converted from Campagnolo to SP, to move my feet out, trying to ease my back...and I really
like them.

Peter Chisholm Vecchio's Bicicletteria 1833 Pearl St. Boulder, CO, 80302
(303)440-3535 http://www.vecchios.com "Ruote convenzionali costruite eccezionalmente bene"

 

On 5 May 2003 12:57:26 -0700, [email protected] (g.daniels) wrote:

>what pedals do the experienced suggest for the ageing 50 mile sprinter whose unsure about pedals
>with clips being naturally clumsy( i can see myself arrowed into a canal upsidedown still attached
>to the frame) but likes nice machine work and thoughtful design but desires an upgrade from the
>original japanese/taiwanese 'rattraps'if there is one?

While I ride most of my road bikes with Look pedals and Sidi shoes (have varying models of both),
on my touring bike I have a pair of Wellgo SPD pedals matched with el cheapo Performance Primo
MTB shoes.

jeverett3<AT>earthlink<DOT>net http://home.earthlink.net/~jeverett3

 

"Qui si parla Campagnolo" wrote in message
> Just converted from Campagnolo to SP, to move my feet out, trying to ease
my
> back...and I really like them.

I converted to SP a few weeks back. One knee began to hurt on the outside (ACL?), so my fitter
measured the angle of my foot/ankle and installed some shims under the cleats. Haven't had a knee
pain since, and my lower back feels much better...

Paul J Pharr

 

On Mon, 05 May 2003 12:57:26 +0000, g.daniels wrote:

> what pedals do the experienced suggest for the ageing 50 mile sprinter whose unsure about pedals
> with clips being naturally clumsy( i can see myself arrowed into a canal upsidedown still attached
> to the frame) but likes nice machine work and thoughtful design but desires an upgrade from the
> original japanese/taiwanese 'rattraps'if there is one?

Do you ski? Think of these pedal systems like the bindings on skis. They do release in a fall, so
your mental image is not relevant. They make a huge difference in riding.

I personally use and recommend Speedplay Frogs. Walkable, totally free float over 20-some-odd
degrees, and only one moving part. Very reliable, very secure, very comfortable.

--

David L. Johnson

__o | It doesn't get any easier, you just go faster. --Greg LeMond _`\(,_ | (_)/ (_) |

 

"David L. Johnson" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> On Mon, 05 May 2003 12:57:26 +0000, g.daniels wrote:
>
> > what pedals do the experienced suggest for the ageing 50 mile sprinter whose unsure about pedals
> > with clips being naturally clumsy( i can see myself arrowed into a canal upsidedown still
> > attached to the frame) but likes nice machine work and thoughtful design but desires an upgrade
> > from the original japanese/taiwanese 'rattraps'if there is one?
>
> Do you ski? Think of these pedal systems like the bindings on skis. They do release in a fall, so
> your mental image is not relevant. They make a huge difference in riding.
>
> I personally use and recommend Speedplay Frogs. Walkable, totally free float over 20-some-odd
> degrees, and only one moving part. Very reliable, very secure, very comfortable.
>

The lack of moving parts is no indication of longevity or easy care. These pedals require frequent
service. Also not very good for touring unless you want to carry 2 extra items with you: 1) a dry
lube for the cleat/pedal interface and 2) a grease injector. One ride in the rain and you better
lube them.

--
Robin Hubert <[email protected]

 

On Wed, 07 May 2003 14:50:00 +0000, Robin Hubert wrote:

>> I personally use and recommend Speedplay Frogs. Walkable, totally free float over 20-some-odd
>> degrees, and only one moving part. Very reliable, very secure, very comfortable.
>>
>
> The lack of moving parts is no indication of longevity or easy care. These pedals require frequent
> service. Also not very good for touring unless you want to carry 2 extra items with you: 1) a dry
> lube for the cleat/pedal interface and 2) a grease injector. One ride in the rain and you better
> lube them.

Nonsense. I lube my pedals no more than once every 3-4 months. I also never bother with a lube on
the cleat-pedal interface. After I shoot a bit of grease into the pedals, I grab a greasy rag to
wipe off the excess, and some of that gets on the pedals where the cleat rides. That is it.

Of course, I've only been uing them for 4 years/20,000 miles, so what do I know.

--

David L. Johnson

__o | It doesn't get any easier, you just go faster. --Greg LeMond _`\(,_ | (_)/ (_) |

 

I'll have to look for them. Sounds like just what I need on my (soon to be built) commuter.

Eric

[email protected] (Chris Zacho "The Wheelman") wrote in message
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> Eric wrote:
>
> "I tried these, but quickly gave up. When cliped in, it was very hard to corner without scraping
> the underside of the pedal. When using street shoes, I had to get used to flipping the pedal over
> before starting out, since the street shoe side weighs more. Very hard to use and anoying. I
> replaced with a standard SPD pedal and have no problems. If I really nee a need for street shoes,
> I'll get some of those SPD compatables made for walking. "
>
> I've seen these as well, and actually considered them for my MTB. (I sometimes have trouble
> locating the pedal clips when making quick starts). Then I saw a better model, also Shimano (I
> forget the model number). It's basically a _two_ sided SPD pedal mounted inside a "regular"
> MTB cage.
>
> The large platform is an easy target to hit, even in difficult situations, and my foot doesn't
> slide off like it would on their smaller straight SPD pedals. And the SPD part is angled so simply
> sliding the foot forwards engages the cleat.
>
> Since the SPD is on both sides, your unequal weight problem is solved, and the outer cage mekes it
> possible to use with street shoes.
>
> May you have the wind at your back. And a really low gear for the hills! Chris
>
> Chris'Z Corner "The Website for the Common Bicyclist": http://www.geocities.com/czcorner

 

If you're asking about the SPD street shoes, I haven't used them, so I have no idea. The MTB shoes I
have look just like road shoes with pads around the cleat and on the heel. I can't feel any
difference, but I'm not the best judge of those sorts of things. I think the big difference is the
weight of the shoe, cleat style and the pads that allow walking across hardwood floors without
scratching.

E

Iain Lang <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> .
>
> >I tried these, but quickly gave up. When cliped in, it was very hard to corner without scraping
> >the underside of the pedal. When using street shoes, I had to get used to flipping the pedal over
> >before starting out, since the street shoe side weighs more. Very hard to use and anoying. I
> >replaced with a standard SPD pedal and have no problems. If I really nee a need for street shoes,
> >I'll get some of those SPD compatables made for walking.
> >
> >I would recomend MTB shoes, for walking purposes.
> My LBS advised e to try stiff soles to counter the soreness I get through trainers (yes! - Guilty!
> I'm a fair-weather cyclist!). He then demonstrated the impressive stiffness in some of these
> sixty-quid-and-more shoes. All very well and good, but I could see little flex in the instep area,
> so - before I lash the cash - how easy are these things to walk in? Any recommendations? Yooors,
>
> Iain.

 

"David L. Johnson" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> On Wed, 07 May 2003 14:50:00 +0000, Robin Hubert wrote:
>
> >> I personally use and recommend Speedplay Frogs. Walkable, totally free float over 20-some-odd
> >> degrees, and only one moving part. Very
reliable,
> >> very secure, very comfortable.
> >>
> >
> > The lack of moving parts is no indication of longevity or easy care.
These
> > pedals require frequent service. Also not very good for touring unless
you
> > want to carry 2 extra items with you: 1) a dry lube for the cleat/pedal interface and 2) a
> > grease injector. One ride in the rain and you better lube them.
>
> Nonsense. I lube my pedals no more than once every 3-4 months. I also never bother with a lube on
> the cleat-pedal interface. After I shoot a bit of grease into the pedals, I grab a greasy rag to
> wipe off the excess, and some of that gets on the pedals where the cleat rides. That is it.
>
> Of course, I've only been uing them for 4 years/20,000 miles, so what do I know.
>
> --
>

Gee, I dunno what you dunno, but I sell these all the time (for 4 years now) and service them also.
I see many of these pedals come through the shop and have used them also for probably 20K or more.
So, what do I know? What I know is I see alot of service problems due to people that, regardless of
warnings and suggestions, insist on neglecting pedal service.

After a ride in the rain, you better lube these pedals, or the next time you try, you'll find rust
coming out the inside "seal". That rusty grease ought to lube your cleat/pedal interface just right.

The funny thing is, most don't even notice the pedal body wobbling on the spindle, or that it spins
so freely due to lack of lube, or that their cleats are worn out and ruining the pedal in the
process. Then I ask about their service schedule and if they've read Speedplay's instructions on
care and service ... almost always "uh ....".

Anyway, I never said they were bad pedals (and I never said you were an idiot for using them), so
don't be offended.

--
Robin Hubert <[email protected]

 

I was thinking-that if I went to a long distance social gathering like say the sprint across
florida, what would the pedal breakdown be? How many on what pedal with what shoe riding what bike
type. In gross percentages, for example 75% of all old in shape farts riding road touring bikes with
relaxed suspensions and carrying 30 pounds use what pedal equipment? MTB riders use?? Toe straps??
Clips??? Johnson sez the tourer can slipout before endoing into the canal-is he putting us on here?