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  1. After a trial run from Llanthony Priory last month, I finally got
    round to doing some wild camping. The plan had been to make use of
    the Heart of Wales line and visit the much ignored area of Mid-Wales
    West of Llandrindod Wells. However this was ruled out on the day due
    to a late bus and the therefore late time of arrival. After
    considering the Plynlimon area, we settled on the Black Mountains.

    A couple of hours later, i`ve picked up my friend from Abergavenny
    station and we are parked at the isolated car park 253284, 5 miles
    down a dead end and miles away from Merthyr; that should be safe
    enough. We took the path North, past Grwyne Fawr Reservoir and
    carried on till it reaches the ridge that runs the North edge of the
    Brecons. Prior to leaving, we had identified a number of possible
    wild camp locations, one had been confirmed as good by an earlier Paul
    Saunders post (the joys of Google), another one of Paul’s
    locations was close by so we thought we`d have a look. At 198326, we
    found a lovely flat and relatively stone free platform affording a
    wonderful panoramic view over towards the unmistakable profile of
    Pen-y-Fan. Perfect we thought, now lets just find a water supply.
    Unfortunately, the nearby stream was dry till about 250m below us and
    the stream down Cwm Cwnstab was too close to a path for comfort.
    Consigning that one to memory for another time, we head over to Waun
    Fach, contour round and drop down Pen Trumau. After cutting off the
    Bridleway, we head down towards the sheepfold. We had kept to
    Naismith almost dead on, surprisingly considering the packs we were
    carrying, this gave us 2 hours to get sorted before sunset. In the
    rush to get out, I had forgotten to write down Paul’s 8 figure
    reference (2195 2768) so we start looking around the confluence,
    rather than by the wood. After a few minutes we settle upon SO2169
    2807, a flat, quite rock free shelf just East of Nant Y Gadair. My
    friend had brought his expensive £250 tent, I had my £15 Pro Action
    job. Mine went up first and whilst I can see where the money goes on
    a £250 tent, i`m still amazed what £15 gets you down Argos (give me
    the £250 one in bad weather though.). With the tents pitched, time to
    prepare food. My Vesta meal was easy to prepare, tasty and a good big
    portion. The water supply was clear, plentiful and knocks the socks
    off what I pay Welsh Water to pipe to my house! This only left
    watching the admittedly poor sunset with a can of Old Speckled Hen,
    pre-chilled in the stream. There was something slightly disconcerting
    with setting up camp out here, despite being hidden away, you kept
    thinking the farmer would make an appearance any time… I was in
    bed by 10 and managed a fairly good nights sleep (remembered the
    ear-plugs this time); I really must learn to sleep on my back –
    it`d be much more comfortable that way.

    Awake at 6 this morning, porridge made, tents down and off by 8. With
    the forecast of bad weather as a front moves in (6pm and still no
    sign), we retrace our steps to Waun Fach, this time reaching the top.
    A survey marker on the top gives some evidence to how much erosion has
    taken place in the last 40 odd years. From Waun Fach we start walking
    towards Pen y Gadair Fawr but cut down and cross the dam, join the
    path and back to the car. Five miles but over Naismith this time
    – the weight of the packs must be showing. Coming back, I was
    concerned wherever the car was still their (and wishing I had paid the
    extra for fully comp!). The car was still there but surprisingly the
    drivers door was unlocked and the window fully open. Nothing had been
    taken and I don’t think anything had been moved around but
    I’m sure I checked the doors before we left…

    All in all, a great last minute trip and I’m sure I’ll get
    into Mid Wales again sometime soon.

    Ed.

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    .. We took the path North, past Grwyne Fawr Reservoir and

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    carried on till it reaches the ridge that runs the North edge of the
    Brecons.

    Yesterday I did the walk as described in the September issue of Trail -
    followed the arrows but didn't walk backwards - anyone who has read it will
    know what I mean!

    Prior to leaving, we had identified a number of possible

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    wild camp locations, one had been confirmed as good by an earlier Paul
    Saunders post (the joys of Google), another one of Paul’s
    locations was close by so we thought we`d have a look.

    Yep, it looks a perfect place for a bit of wild camping - I noticed some
    people camping by the side of the river on my drive up to the Car Park...not
    exactly wild but they were mostly families and as there were no camping site
    signs about I guess it must be classed as *wild* ? I also spotted some
    people hiding away in the forest with a tent just off the main road.

    At 198326, we

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    found a lovely flat and relatively stone free platform affording a
    wonderful panoramic view over towards the unmistakable profile of
    Pen-y-Fan.

    From the Ffawyddog Ridge it's one of the places you cannot see - although I
    didn't go right up onto Twyn Talycefn or I would imagine I could have. - I
    cut down left towards the reservoir.

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    > Perfect we thought, now lets just find a water supply.

    On my way back down the track I was suprised how many fast flowing streams
    came down from the Gadair side and remarked to my mate how clean looking
    they all looked. He is very sceptical about drinking from them but as a
    youngster I recalled doing this quite a lot.

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    >> Coming back, I was concerned wherever the car was still their (and


    wishing I had paid the extra for fully comp!). The car was still there but
    surprisingly the

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    drivers door was unlocked and the window fully open. Nothing had been


    taken and I don’t think anything had been moved around but I;m sure I
    checked the doors before we left.

    I normally go for early morning walks but had to make yesterday's a late
    afternoon one. Anyway, got back to the Car Par to find just 3 vechiles
    there - 21 when we left...my mate is a fruit cake, he counted the things!
    Got the shock of my life when we got to the exit...the bar was down (it was
    just after 7.30pm) and said matey checked to find it had been pad locked! -
    there was a smallish gap between the wall and the gate and I managed to get
    the car through, although it nearly *tilted* into the gate. I didn't see any
    signs that the place would be locked and next time I shall look out for
    sure.

    My youngest thinks he would like to try a bit of wild camping and I thought
    somewhere up that valley might suit for a 1st time - if he nags enough I
    just might have a go, after all I haven't wild camped myself for about 30
    odd years!

  3. Ed Whittaker said:

    After a trial run from Llanthony Priory last month, I finally got
    round to doing some wild camping.

    Nice one!

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    Prior to leaving, we had identified a number of possible
    wild camp locations, one had been confirmed as good by an earlier Paul
    Saunders post (the joys of Google), another one of Paul’s
    locations was close by so we thought we`d have a look. At 198326, we
    found a lovely flat and relatively stone free platform affording a
    wonderful panoramic view over towards the unmistakable profile of
    Pen-y-Fan. Perfect we thought, now lets just find a water supply.
    Unfortunately, the nearby stream was dry till about 250m below us

    I've been happy to find that there was water very high up in that stream
    both times I've camped there, even once during very hot weather, but I
    suppose it depends on how much recent rain there's been.

    If you study the 25k maps closely you'll find that there are quite a few
    high level springs scattered about the Black Mountains. I've used a few
    of these, even when the water was barely trickling out of them. Even a
    trickle can fill a water bag if you have a bit of patience. Just take
    some photos to pass the time while you're waiting! ;-)

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    In the
    rush to get out, I had forgotten to write down Paul’s 8 figure
    reference (2195 2768) so we start looking around the confluence,
    rather than by the wood. After a few minutes we settle upon SO2169
    2807, a flat, quite rock free shelf just East of Nant Y Gadair.

    Glad you found a good spot, I must make a note of that.

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    My Vesta meal was easy to prepare, tasty and a good big
    portion.

    Yes, Vestas are good aren't they?

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    The water supply was clear, plentiful and knocks the socks
    off what I pay Welsh Water to pipe to my house!

    Indeed, I don't know why some people get so paranoid about drinking the
    water out in the hills.

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    This only left
    watching the admittedly poor sunset

    Hardly the best viewpoint down in the valley though, is it?

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    with a can of Old Speckled Hen,
    pre-chilled in the stream.

    Another bloody alkie! ;-)

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    There was something slightly disconcerting
    with setting up camp out here, despite being hidden away, you kept
    thinking the farmer would make an appearance any time

    Did you? You're just not used to it yet. I'd be very surprised if a
    farmer turned up there, they probably wouldn't be bothered even if they
    did, not on wild land. Now they might take offence if you camp in their
    fields, but I've had a few farmers pass by when camping on wild land and
    none of them have said anything.

    Paul
    --
    http://www.wilderness-wales.co.uk
    http://www.wildwales.fsnet.co.uk

  4. Ed Whittaker said:

    After a trial run from Llanthony Priory last month, I finally got
    round to doing some wild camping.

    Nice one!

    Quoted message said:

    Prior to leaving, we had identified a number of possible
    wild camp locations, one had been confirmed as good by an earlier Paul
    Saunders post (the joys of Google), another one of Paul’s
    locations was close by so we thought we`d have a look. At 198326, we
    found a lovely flat and relatively stone free platform affording a
    wonderful panoramic view over towards the unmistakable profile of
    Pen-y-Fan. Perfect we thought, now lets just find a water supply.
    Unfortunately, the nearby stream was dry till about 250m below us

    I've been happy to find that there was water very high up in that stream
    both times I've camped there, even once during very hot weather, but I
    suppose it depends on how much recent rain there's been.

    If you study the 25k maps closely you'll find that there are quite a few
    high level springs scattered about the Black Mountains. I've used a few
    of these, even when the water was barely trickling out of them. Even a
    trickle can fill a water bag if you have a bit of patience. Just take
    some photos to pass the time while you're waiting! ;-)

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    In the
    rush to get out, I had forgotten to write down Paul’s 8 figure
    reference (2195 2768) so we start looking around the confluence,
    rather than by the wood. After a few minutes we settle upon SO2169
    2807, a flat, quite rock free shelf just East of Nant Y Gadair.

    Glad you found a good spot, I must make a note of that.

    Quoted message said:

    My Vesta meal was easy to prepare, tasty and a good big
    portion.

    Yes, Vestas are good aren't they?

    Quoted message said:

    The water supply was clear, plentiful and knocks the socks
    off what I pay Welsh Water to pipe to my house!

    Indeed, I don't know why some people get so paranoid about drinking the
    water out in the hills.

    Quoted message said:

    This only left
    watching the admittedly poor sunset

    Hardly the best viewpoint down in the valley though, is it?

    Quoted message said:

    with a can of Old Speckled Hen,
    pre-chilled in the stream.

    Another bloody alkie! ;-)

    Quoted message said:

    There was something slightly disconcerting
    with setting up camp out here, despite being hidden away, you kept
    thinking the farmer would make an appearance any time

    Did you? You're just not used to it yet. I'd be very surprised if a
    farmer turned up there, they probably wouldn't be bothered even if they
    did, not on wild land. Now they might take offence if you camp in their
    fields, but I've had a few farmers pass by when camping on wild land and
    none of them have said anything.

    Paul
    --
    http://www.wilderness-wales.co.uk
    http://www.wildwales.fsnet.co.uk

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