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Tracing Ancestry

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  1. For males the mother's ancestry can be traced via the mitochondriam, as they are inherited from the
    mother alone.

    Their paternity can be traced back many many generations through their Y chromosome.

    Can a female's paternal hancestry be traced in any way?

  2. Representative Trantis said:

    For males the mother's ancestry can be traced via the mitochondriam, as they are inherited from
    the mother alone.

    Their paternity can be traced back many many generations through their Y chromosome.

    Can a female's paternal hancestry be traced in any way?


    If you have the father, yes. If not, it might be possible, but it's not easy, as you have to
    reconstruct the whole family tree (I can't see any genetic alternative to having to do this). We
    ahve a guy worknig on this problem, it gets complicated because there are so many possible
    pedigrees, and the data is often not good enough to be able to work out the pedigree precisely,
    especially if you're going back more than a few generations.

    Bob

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    Representative Trantis said:

    For males the mother's ancestry can be traced via the mitochondriam, as they are inherited from the
    mother alone.

    Their paternity can be traced back many many generations through their Y chromosome.

    Can a female's paternal hancestry be traced in any way?

    It is a bit of a myth that maternal ancestries "can be traced via the mitochondrion". My mother and
    her sister had the same mitochondrial haplotype (I assume). That means you couldn't tell from that
    which of them was my mother. Similarly for my grandfather and his brother, who carried the same Y
    chromosome.

    You actually have to use non-Y, non-mitochondrial markers to infer ancestors. Lots and lots of them.

    --
    Joe Felsenstein [email hidden] Department of Genome Sciences, University of
    Washington, Box 357730, Seattle, WA 98195-7730 USA

  4. Quoted message said:
    In article said:

    For males the mother's ancestry can be traced via the mitochondriam, as they are inherited from
    the mother alone.

    Their paternity can be traced back many many generations through their Y chromosome.

    Can a female's paternal hancestry be traced in any way?

    It is a bit of a myth that maternal ancestries "can be traced via the mitochondrion". My mother and
    her sister had the same mitochondrial haplotype (I assume). That means you couldn't tell from that
    which of them was my mother. Similarly for my grandfather and his brother, who carried the same Y
    chromosome.

    You actually have to use non-Y, non-mitochondrial markers to infer ancestors. Lots and
    lots of them.

    You also have to consider that you have two parents, four grandparents, etc. In ten generations, you
    had over a a thousand ancestors, in twenty over a million. Even accounting for substantial
    inbreeding, you certainly had a large number of ancestors. Tracing the mitochondrial genes and the Y
    chromosome would only give you two of these. It is even possible that you carry absolutely NONE of
    the autosomal chromosomes of the two individuals you trace that way.

    Mitochondrial and Y chromosome tracing have signiicant value for many purposes, but for tracing what
    we, in ordinary language, call "ancestry", they really aren't that useful.

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