General fitness, health and nutrition · Public discussion

Training Year Ending 2004

Started by SwStudio · · Last activity · 102 posts · 3,330 views

Thread navigation

Jump through the discussion

Go to the original post, the replies on this page, or the latest preserved contribution.

Thread details

What we know about this thread

Original section
General fitness, health and nutrition
Published
25 December 2004
Last activity
14 January 2005
Original author
SwStudio
Posts
102
Discussion status
Public discussion
Total views
3,330
Views / 30 days
17

The navigation and discussion metadata provide context. Posts remain in their original chronological order.

Showing posts 41–60 of 102
Posts remain in their original chronological order.

Text size

  1. Quoted message said:

    1. How many miles/kilometres did you run this year?


    About 820 (didn't keep a log with mileage last January), almost all
    base, a few harder tempo runs in June, July, August.

    Quoted message said:

    2. What were your highest and lowest mileage weeks?


    45miles, August 9th week. zero a few weeks.

    Quoted message said:

    3. What was your longest run?


    10.5miles.

    Quoted message said:

    4. How many (if at all) races did you enter?


    1 5miler, ran as hard as I could at 7:29, didn't rest for it, ran 7
    miles the day before and stayed up late drinking beer and smoking pot.

    Quoted message said:

    5. What were your best and worst race performances?


    Only one. Hard because of the pain initiation of being the first race
    in years. Hard because of the too fast first two miles or so. Great
    because it was.

    Quoted message said:

    6. Do you have a favorite, memorable run that you did this year?


    August 22nd. 8 miles flat while visiting my parents. Nice flat area,
    wooded, low traffic, along a tributary of the Chesapeake Bay. Unusually
    mild, cool, dry morning for the area. Always have good runs there, this
    day I wanted to go hard and to go faster on the second 4 mile loop.
    First time in years that I felt like I was moving well, effortless, feet
    barely touching the ground. Got bitten by a dog about 2 miles from the
    end, needed to get the rabies immunoglobulin and vaccine, developed knee
    pain after the run that forced time off, but it was still the best run
    of the year.

    Quoted message said:

    7. What was the craziest weather you endured while running?


    Minus 7-10F...wind chill minus 30, Boston, Jan 16, 2004, about 7.5 miles.

    Quoted message said:

    8. What were your goals for 2003? Did you achieve them?


    One goal I remember thinking was that I would get up to 50 mpw average
    by May. That didn't happen because of two sprained ankles in March and
    April. Then I had knee trouble in September and a baby on October 5th.
    (a great thing).

    Quoted message said:

    9. What are your goals for 2004?


    My goal is to be a consistent, year round runner, and to not get hurt.
    50mpw average for the year. Maybe a fall marathon, definitely looking
    to get a half marathon under 7mpm.

    Quoted message said:

    10. Do you have a favorite running-related quote to share?


    nope.

  2. Lanceandrew said:

    back from san francisco...great trail running right at the golden
    gate bridge, presidio, and along the san francisco coast
    line.....also hit muir woods.

    I enjoy running in the hills out there, too. I will run several trail races
    there in '05. Maybe the Miwok 100k this year.

    Quoted message said:

    got a kick out of seeing the local
    runners in tights, caps & mitts in 50 degree weather.

    I live in very mild LA, and I still scratch my head when most of the runners
    I see are wearing warm-ups or tights in 50 degree weather, too. I'd burn
    up.

    When it gets down to 40 or so, I'll don a wool cap and gloves, but it takes
    weather in the 20's to get me into tights or warm-ups.

    -- Dan

  3. "Dan Stumpus" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    I enjoy running in the hills out there, too. I will run several trail
    races
    there in '05. Maybe the Miwok 100k this year.

    Careful Dan, Miwok is 100k and your getting closer to the 100 mile. Do
    you have Western States tucked in a future pocket? Just like you
    sniffed out Donoavn for a marathon, I'm getting vibes you're looking to
    go longer. 😉

    -DougF

  4. Doug Freese said:

    "Dan Stumpus" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    I enjoy running in the hills out there, too. I will run several trail
    races
    there in '05. Maybe the Miwok 100k this year.

    Careful Dan, Miwok is 100k and your getting closer to the 100 mile. Do
    you have Western States tucked in a future pocket? Just like you
    sniffed out Donoavn for a marathon, I'm getting vibes you're looking to
    go longer. 😉

    Yeah, sounds like he hasn't figured out that 100K ain't "just" 12M more
    than a 50. Once he does, he'll be like the rest of us and realize you
    might race 100Ks but you run 100Ms and have twice as long to do it so
    why not.

    --
    - The Trailrunner

    Anti-Spam Alert: If you wish to reply, cut the *BS*

    Trails of the Diablo Valley
    *Running - Hiking - Nature*
    http://www.geocities.com/yosemite/trails/6016/

  5. I was on pace for a 26th 2,000+ mile year, but injured my knee
    in April. Did recover more or less by the end of the year,
    but looking at a more modest 1,300 miles for 2005.

  6. On Sat, 25 Dec 2004 16:42:53 -0500, "SwStudio" <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:

    Greetings, rec.runners! . . .

    . . . Have a great & injury-free new year everyone!!!

    You too, David! Please no life-threatening illnesses and emergency
    surgeries! (I think your whole series of posts after the appendix thing
    should get some kind of online journalism award!)

    Quoted message said:

    1. How many miles/kilometres did you run this year?

    I went from no exercise to being a beginning runner in 2004. Indulge me
    for a moment while I give monthly totals: Jan 6.5, Feb 2.5, Mar 19.0, Apr
    29.1, May 31.8, Jun 39.9, Jul 47.0, Aug 50.6, Sep 48.5, Oct 56.5, Nov 52.9,
    Dec (3 workouts to go) should be around 55.

    Total so far this year: 423.5 -- yes, I run less in a month than many here
    run in a week.

    Quoted message said:

    2. What were your highest and lowest mileage weeks?

    0 .. 16.0

    Quoted message said:

    3. What was your longest run?

    5.9 miles (72 minutes)

    Quoted message said:

    4. How many (if at all) races did you enter?

    (3) 5K's

    Quoted message said:

    5. What were your best and worst race performances?

    Times were 34:33, 30:07, 32:07

    Quoted message said:

    6. Do you have a favorite, memorable run that you did this year?

    August 14 -- the first time I kept moving for over an hour.
    November 7 -- 29:42 unofficial 5000M on the track
    November 13 -- 4.5 miles in late shorts-and-singlet weather with my son

    Quoted message said:

    7. What was the craziest weather you endured while running?

    June 25, 94°F and *Heavy smoke* from a big grass fire that erupted up-wind
    of me in the evening (scary!).

    Quoted message said:

    8. What were your goals for 2004? Did you achieve them?

    I resolved to run (just finish) a 5K!

    Quoted message said:

    9. What are your goals for 2005?

    I think I have a 28:00 5K in me for the first half of 2005.
    For the second half of 2005, increase mileage to where it won't kill me to
    run a local 8.2 mile trail race in November, and possibly a leg of the
    California International Marathon Relay in Sacramento, Calif. in December.

    Quoted message said:

    10. Do you have a favorite running-related quote to share?


    California Spanglish: "¡Hazlo ya!" -- "Just *do* it already!"

    --
    Daniel
    [email hidden]

  7. Daniel said:

    I went from no exercise to being a beginning runner in 2004. Indulge me
    for a moment while I give monthly totals: Jan 6.5, Feb 2.5, Mar 19.0, Apr
    29.1, May 31.8, Jun 39.9, Jul 47.0, Aug 50.6, Sep 48.5, Oct 56.5, Nov 52.9,
    Dec (3 workouts to go) should be around 55.

    Total so far this year: 423.5 -- yes, I run less in a month than many here
    run in a week.

    Building up milage takes time. I don't know what my weekly milage was in the
    beginning because I didn't log it, but it was less than 10 a week. Your
    gradual buildup over this year has created a solid foundation that you can
    build on. Just stick with your current approach: slowly increase your milage
    and you'll log over 1000 miles next year, and over 2000 the year after that.

    Cheers,
    --
    Donovan Rebbechi
    http://pegasus.rutgers.edu/~elflord/

  8. "Daniel" <[email hidden]> wrote in message

    Quoted message said:

    On Sat, 25 Dec 2004 16:42:53 -0500, "SwStudio"

    Quoted message said:

    Greetings, rec.runners! . . .

    . . . Have a great & injury-free new year everyone!!!

    You too, David! Please no life-threatening illnesses and emergency
    surgeries! (I think your whole series of posts after the appendix thing
    should get some kind of online journalism award!)

    Thanks, it was more fun to write about it than experience it. ;-)

    cheers,
    --
    David (in Hamilton, ON)
    www.allfalldown.org
    www.absolutelyaccurate.com

  9. SwStudio said:

    Greetings, rec.runners!

    Quoted message said:

    1. How many miles/kilometres did you run this year?

    The year's not over but as of now, 971miles

    Quoted message said:

    2. What were your highest and lowest mileage weeks?

    0 lowest, 37.7 highest

    Quoted message said:

    3. What was your longest run?

    2004 L.A. Marathon - 26.2

    Quoted message said:

    4. How many (if at all) races did you enter?

    1, Mission Inn 10K 59:15

    Quoted message said:

    5. What were your best and worst race performances?

    Best - 59:15 10K, Worst - 2004 L.A. Marathon 5:09 @ 95°

    Quoted message said:

    6. Do you have a favorite, memorable run that you did this year?

    Oct 03, started @39° light rain, then came the hail and ended with 70° sunshine.

    Quoted message said:

    7. What was the craziest weather you endured while running?

    Oct 03 see #6

    Quoted message said:

    8. What were your goals for 2003? Did you achieve them?

    Run a marathon. Started my training the second week in January and ran the 2003 L.A. Marathon the first week in March.
    Don't try this at home kids. 6 weeks just isn't enough. 5:25

    Quoted message said:

    9. What are your goals for 2004?

    Train for a sub 5:00 time at the 20th running of the L.A. Marathon. (praying for 40° weather)

    Quoted message said:

    10. Do you have a favorite running-related quote to share?

    I hate running, I've always hated running. Why the hell am I running?..... I think I'm starting to like running.

    Quoted message said:

    cheers,

  10. The Trailrunner said:

    Doug Freese wrote:

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Careful Dan, Miwok is 100k and your getting closer to the 100 mile.
    Do you have Western States tucked in a future pocket? Just like you
    sniffed out Donoavn for a marathon, I'm getting vibes you're looking
    to go longer. 😉

    Yes, but I'm wary. I still haven't run a good 50m (as an oldster). I think
    after a couple of tries that I'm zeroing in on the correct "feeling" for the
    first half. Maybe respect for that tough 100k will help me ease back on my
    crazy competitiveness in the first half.

    Quoted message said:

    Yeah, sounds like he hasn't figured out that 100K ain't "just" 12M
    more than a 50. Once he does, he'll be like the rest of us and
    realize you might race 100Ks but you run 100Ms and have twice as long
    to do it so why not.

    Oh, no, I think it's going to be alot tougher than a 50m.

    -- Dan

  11. steve common said:

    Running through the crowds in the casbah of Mahmid El Rozlane. Seemed
    the whole town was out to see the Ahansal brothers coming through during
    the long 76k stage of the Sand Marathon and I was just 1 minute ahead of
    them at that point (49k) - BTW they started 3 hours after me :-)

    Are they the Morrocan brothers that came to do NY marathon a few years
    ago? Have they returned completely to ultra running or have they tried
    any other marathons?

  12. On Wed, 29 Dec 2004 19:41:27 +0000 (UTC), Donovan Rebbechi <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:
    Daniel said:

    I went from no exercise to being a beginning runner in 2004. Indulge me
    for a moment while I give monthly totals: Jan 6.5, Feb 2.5, Mar 19.0, Apr
    29.1, May 31.8, Jun 39.9, Jul 47.0, Aug 50.6, Sep 48.5, Oct 56.5, Nov 52.9,
    Dec (3 workouts to go) should be around 55.

    Total so far this year: 423.5 -- yes, I run less in a month than many here
    run in a week.

    Building up milage takes time. I don't know what my weekly milage was in the
    beginning because I didn't log it, but it was less than 10 a week. Your
    gradual buildup over this year has created a solid foundation that you can
    build on. Just stick with your current approach: slowly increase your milage
    and you'll log over 1000 miles next year, and over 2000 the year after that.
    . . .

    Thanks for the encouragement. -- Although I'm rolling my eyes at the
    reference to 2000 miles per year; that's a long ways away! 🙂

    Running 5 days a week, 3.1 miles average is 808 and 4 miles average is 1042
    -- somewhere in there is in the back of my mind for 2005.

    --
    Daniel
    [email hidden]

  13. Anthony said:
    Quoted message said:

    1. How many miles/kilometres did you run this year?


    1300 km (808 miles). 2003 was over 2000 miles...

    Quoted message said:

    2. What were your highest and lowest mileage weeks?


    High was this week! (82 km - 51 miles). Lots of 00000 weeks.
    4.5 months off injured. Managed a fair bit of pool running (yuk) and
    biking. Have kept up some biking since returning to normal running
    schedule. Trying to run as much as possible on more runner-friendly
    surfaces like grass and dirt trails.

    Quoted message said:

    3. What was your longest run?


    January marathon.

    Quoted message said:

    4. How many (if at all) races did you enter?


    Jan marathon 2:57:17
    Jul 5k 20:00
    Oct 10k 40:28
    Nov 10k 39:41
    Dec 1/2M 1:26:34

    Good luck preparing for London ! BTW, excellent job in the Jan marathon. I know
    the above races aren't exactly your fastest, but a 2:57 marathon is still a
    damn good performance compared to your race times from 2003. Judging by the
    race times above, your comeback is coming along nicely. Keep at it and you'll
    be back in 37/83 shape soon.

    Cheers,
    --
    Donovan Rebbechi
    http://pegasus.rutgers.edu/~elflord/

  14. "SwStudio" <[email hidden]> wrote in message

    Quoted message said:

    1. How many miles/kilometres did you run this year?

    About 1300 - 1400 miles. I took a couple months off.

    Quoted message said:

    2. What were your highest and lowest mileage weeks?

    Highest was 124km (77 miles). Lowest was zero.

    Quoted message said:

    3. What was your longest run?

    About 19 miles.

    Quoted message said:

    4. How many (if at all) races did you enter?

    About 33 - 35

    Quoted message said:

    5. What were your best and worst race performances?

    Best 5k - 16:43
    Best 10k - 35:18
    Best HM - 79:03

    Worst 5k - 18:11 (thirteen days after appendectomy)
    Worst 10 mile - 62:18 (twelve days after appendectomy)
    Worst 30k - DNF (appendix)

    Quoted message said:

    6. Do you have a favorite, memorable run that you did this year?

    Not a favorite, but I will never forget my appendix rupturing
    during the ATB30k.

    Quoted message said:

    7. What was the craziest weather you endured while running?

    Hilly 15k race in freezing horizontal rain with steady 35-40mph
    wind.

    Quoted message said:

    8. What were your goals for 2004? Did you achieve them?

    My goals every year are to improve on as many PR's as I
    can. I achieved success with 5k, 10k, & HM.

    Quoted message said:

    9. What are your goals for 2005?

    Improve on as many PR's as I can.

    Quoted message said:

    10. Do you have a favorite running-related quote to share?

    "Science can't determine how the mind will tolerate pain in a
    race. Sometimes I say, "Today I can die.'"
    - Gelindo Bordin

    cheers,
    --
    David (in Hamilton, ON)
    www.allfalldown.org
    www.absolutelyaccurate.com

  15. "Anthony" <[email hidden]> wrote in message

    Quoted message said:

    Thanks David for the continued maintenance. These threads as well as the
    race reports
    are what makes this group worthwhile for me ( and easier to follow...)

    My pleasure. I appreciate the thanks, and also the participation!
    Good luck in '05.

    cheers,
    --
    David (in Hamilton, ON)
    www.allfalldown.org
    www.absolutelyaccurate.com

  16. Dan said:
    Quoted message said:

    1. How many miles/kilometres did you run this year?



    2200km.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    2. What were your highest and lowest mileage weeks?


    High: 91K, low 0K (on honeymoon, but did do some hiking)

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    3. What was your longest run?


    32K

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    4. How many (if at all) races did you enter?

    1 * 1600
    2 * 5K
    2 * 5mile xc
    1 * 10mile
    1 * 20K
    3 * 1/2 marathon
    1 * marathon (aborted half way)

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    5. What were your best and worst race performances?


    Best: 62:00 for 10 miles
    Worst: 1:31:xx (didn't bother writing it down!) for 1/2 marathon

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    6. Do you have a favorite, memorable run that you did this year?


    A slow short run I did the mornning of my wedding to clear my head.
    Not particularly good running or anything - but it epitomised one
    reason I like running - the destressing effect

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    7. What was the craziest weather you endured while running?


    The only thing that stands out is the very hot weather when I did the
    1:31 half. But even that wasn't
    anything special.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    8. What were your goals for 2004? Did you achieve them?


    sub-3 marathon, which I aborted after throwing up half way having
    taken 1:31 already, and feeling like I'd run 1:25....

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    9. What are your goals for 2005?


    Improve all my pbs. Goal of sub-3 is lurking, though I haven't really
    committed to it yet. Doing the Southern XC Championships (England) but
    that's just for the experience.

    Ben

  17. SwStudio said:

    Greetings, rec.runners!

    This marks the third time I have had the pleasure to post the
    season-ending Training Year thread. As always, thanks to
    everyone who takes part in both this and the weekly verson.

    Thanks for posting it. I was almost going to wait for the end of
    the year to post here, but it's near enough...

    First, something that's not in the list. The most interesting experience was
    marathon recovery, and finding out how it worked. I'd seen teammates enjoy a
    "post marathon bounce" before, but these were guys who overtrained going in.
    Post-marathon, I was doing 60 miles of junk (compared to 70 with 2/week speed
    work before). In hindsight, a week off before resumption of 60 miles junk
    might have helped, though probably not that much. I was uninjured, and not
    carrying anything resembling an injury.

    A 10k race a month out turned out to be a big disappointment. My
    group speedwork sessions had consisted of short easy reps -- much like doing a
    bunch of strides. Which is fine in that there's no point training really hard
    just after the marathon, but my endurance suffered. My legs would turn over
    just fine -- for about 400m, and then they would turn to lead. I realised
    that I was out of shape a little before the 10k race, and also knew there was
    nothing I could do about it -- I just wasn't ready for hard training.

    But the 10k race was a hard enough slap in the face that it kicked me into
    gear. After that, I was physically ready to train, and the bitter taste of
    defeat (more about that later) inspired me to train hard again. So it was
    back to doubles, 70mpw, with two 4x1200 speed sessions. The first week, I
    went slightly overboard with 4 tempo runs, a 4x1200, and an easy hill session.
    The 4x1200 was barely OK, avg 4:15. About 10 seconds off my best. The first
    of the tempos was mediocre, but they got better. Finished that week with 69
    miles, and more importantly, was back in the doubles rhythm.

    Second week I did the first 4x1200 on an odd track, avg was 4:11 which seemed
    like an improvement, though hard to interpret because it's a wonky track (I
    think it's 400m, but it has turns and grades). The next 4x1200 on a proper
    track was a mess, because I had DOMS from a weights workout, but I plodded on.
    Did another tempo. What was important to me was that I didn't feel any urge
    to bomb out on the 4x1200 workouts. I'd just do them from start to finish, and
    not feel too trashed at the end. Mentally, I was great even when the workout
    bombed.

    Third week (this one), the first 4x1200 was interrupted by snow. So I
    guestimated a route that was about the right length (a subset of a .9 mile
    loop) and did each of the 4 reps faster than the last. The snow cleared for
    the second workout (today), and I finished the workout at an avg of 4:04.9,
    about half a second off my best. So nearly 2 months out, I'm in good shape
    again. What I learned is that post-marathon recovery seems like forever, even
    though it's around 8 weeks or so (for me).

    Quoted message said:

    1. How many miles/kilometres did you run this year?

    3161 miles + whatever I do tomorrow

    Quoted message said:

    2. What were your highest and lowest mileage weeks?

    Highest and lowest for any training week: 79 and 40 (miles)

    Highest and lowest for *any* 7 day window: 88 and 21 (miles)

    Quoted message said:

    3. What was your longest run?

    26.2 miles

    Quoted message said:

    4. How many (if at all) races did you enter?

    27

    Distances:
    400m: 1 (track, 62)
    800m: 2 (track, both slow)
    1M: 3 (track, 5:06, 4:52, 4:51)
    2M: 1 (DNF)
    5k: 6 (XC: 18:32/18:26. Roads: 17:30,17:45,17:52)
    4M: 4 (XC: 25:22, roads: 23:19, 22:38, 23:45)
    5M: 2 (28:27, 29:34)
    10k: 3 (37:22, 39:30, 36:53)
    10M: 1 (64:03)
    HM: 3 (81:57,82:46,79:40)
    Mar: 1 (2:58:31)

    Quoted message said:

    5. What were your best and worst race performances?

    best:
    mile: 4:52 indoors
    4M: 22:38
    5M: 28:27
    HM: 79:40

    worst: DNF for 2 mile

    biggest disappointment: the DNF and the slow 10k. The time they assigned me,
    39:30, was off by a whole minute, and the course was probably wrong.

    On the DNF, I was just mentally burned out from too much racing, and the
    pressure got to me -- I wanted to hit each lap in 1:20 and it wasn't going to
    happen. To make things worse, it was hot and I was nervous. The funny thing
    is, if I hung in there, I would have got through in about 10:45 -- still very
    close to goal.

    Quoted message said:

    6. Do you have a favorite, memorable run that you did this year?

    Too many to remember (-;
    (1) The 22:38 4 mile. This was the start of several strong performances. I went
    on to do the fast mile 2 weeks later.
    (2) My indoor 4:52 mile in April. I was shooting for sub 5, so ended up with
    a big negative split and very strong finish.

    Quoted message said:

    7. What was the craziest weather you endured while running?

    Well, there's the usual single-digit cold in Jan, and there were the Dec
    blizzards.

    But the craziest part was when I went on one of my routes in a park, to find
    that the path was covered in 1 foot of snow. So I remember doing 2 miles or
    so in a foot of snow, thinking, "WTF am I doing ? This isn't running". It was
    more like cross country skiing, in running shoes.

    Quoted message said:

    8. What were your goals for 2004? Did you achieve them?

    Didn't have any specific goals. Some of the things I wanted to do -- break
    70% WAVA, score for my team, stay uninjured, I achieved. In fact I achieved
    these by a fairly good margin -- I went up to 75.3% WAVA, and was a consistent
    (if low-end) scorer for my team. I wanted to break 37 for 10k. I did this by
    a narrow margin.

    I would have liked a sub 36, but it didn't happen. I just didn't prepare well
    for any 10k races.

    The marathon was very much spur-of-the-moment. I had the miles, and I had put
    in the entry, so I figured, why not ? I wouldn't have minded a faster time,
    but sub 3 on first try is acceptable.

    Quoted message said:

    9. What are your goals for 2004?

    Faster 10k. Don't run any marathons for a while (-;

    Quoted message said:

    10. Do you have a favorite running-related quote to share?

    It's a good time to quote the late great coach, Lydiard.

    "Champions are everywhere, all you have to do is train them properly"
    "It is important that you can see your feet".

    "Who do you think you are, Snell?" (a heckler hararssing Lydiard and Snell
    while they were out running in New York)

    "Americans eat too large of portions"

    "Run every day" (advice for young runners)

    "Well I suppose some moderate stretches might help, but I never saw a race
    horse stretching!!"

    "They say beer dehydrates you but it doesn't if you drink enough of it."

    "I have the most expensive urine in New Zealand but I am bloody well going to
    keep taking my vitamins."

    "Miles make champions."

    "
    How far?
    To the next tree.

    How fast?
    Your best effort.

    How many?
    Until you get tired!"

    Cheers,
    --
    Donovan Rebbechi
    http://pegasus.rutgers.edu/~elflord/

  18. I enjoyed reading your recap, Donovan.

    I also liked the Lydiard quotes. He was the *man* when I came up...

    With your 4:52, I think you've got a 35:xx 10k in you, one of these days.

    -- Dan

  19. to bike all year.
    2667 miles
    a little over 7.327 or 7.3 a day ×365 days.most all done on bike from
    hurt leg at ultra try and failed. 2002 hell Mi u.s.a.
    did over 14 miles under 12 minutes maybe. don't really matter. leg
    wreck w..by
    A T trail 2160 miles.
    Alexander the great 2500 × 4 =10,000 miles.
    total not counting 90¼ uni consciences time is 2667 miles u.s.a.
    all out side.
    113 weeks no job or unempoyment or any income help at all. picking up
    10¢cas to turn into store for food.only get machines, to look for work
    is too say FRUITLESS.
    butt I still do.
    audit by i.rs. for 30 years. yes thank you.
    [email hidden]
    Tom Wheeler. ortonville Michigan u.s.a.

    or contact.
    e-mail. [email hidden]

  20. Leafing through rec.running, I read a message from [email hidden] of 30
    Dec 2004:

    Quoted message said:
    SwStudio said:

    Greetings, rec.runners!

    This marks the third time I have had the pleasure to post the
    season-ending Training Year thread. As always, thanks to
    everyone who takes part in both this and the weekly verson.

    Thanks for posting it. I was almost going to wait for the end of
    the year to post here, but it's near enough...

    First, something that's not in the list. The most interesting
    experience was marathon recovery, and finding out how it worked. I'd
    seen teammates enjoy a "post marathon bounce" before, but these were
    guys who overtrained going in. Post-marathon, I was doing 60 miles of
    junk (compared to 70 with 2/week speed work before). In hindsight, a
    week off before resumption of 60 miles junk might have helped, though
    probably not that much. I was uninjured, and not carrying anything
    resembling an injury.

    The fact that you still had the desire to get back to semi-serious
    training was probably a good sign. I recall that you were chastised
    somewhat by people that thought you jumped back into your 60+ MPW too
    soon. I felt the same way, but coming from me probably wouldn't mean a
    whole lot. Several training books suggest a reverse taper to get back
    into your normal training mileage. I think that as you become an older
    runner the time off after such an event will be a wise decision. Even if
    you don't feel injured, there could be latent injuries just waiting for
    an opportunity to show themselves.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    4. How many (if at all) races did you enter?

    27

    You owe us some race reports, pal. Did you hide these in the "Training
    Week" threads? ;-)

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    5. What were your best and worst race performances?

    best:
    mile: 4:52 indoors
    4M: 22:38
    5M: 28:27
    HM: 79:40

    That's smokin'! Especially the mile. You seem to be built for middle
    distance, although the half marathon time is not that far off.

    Quoted message said:

    But the craziest part was when I went on one of my routes in a park,
    to find that the path was covered in 1 foot of snow. So I remember
    doing 2 miles or so in a foot of snow, thinking, "WTF am I doing ?
    This isn't running". It was more like cross country skiing, in running
    shoes.

    Emil Zatopek would be proud.

    Quoted message said:

    "They say beer dehydrates you but it doesn't if you drink enough of
    it."

    Hmmm. I thought that was a Doug F. quote.

    Phil M.

Active in the last 60 minutes

Active in this thread

0 users · 0 guests ·0 bots ·0 total

No signed-in users are active right now.

No known search crawlers active right now.