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Piphil wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Anyone have an opinion about these bykes?
>
> Thanks.
>
>
ROTFLMAO over what's about to transpire.
Do yourself a favor and google (groups.google.com) what you just
requested. You may never want to mention the "T" word again.
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> Hi,
>
> Anyone have an opinion about these bykes?
>
> Thanks.
>
>
ROTFLMAO over what's about to transpire.
Do yourself a favor and google (groups.google.com) what you just
requested. You may never want to mention the "T" word again.
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Piphil wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Anyone have an opinion about these bykes?
>
> Thanks.
Fun to watch ... with a beer in your hand, but generally not worth the
effort.
Oh wait you meant bikes ...
Never mind.
R
> Hi,
>
> Anyone have an opinion about these bykes?
>
> Thanks.
Fun to watch ... with a beer in your hand, but generally not worth the
effort.
Oh wait you meant bikes ...
Never mind.
R
[email protected] said:
No offence to the above poster specifically but what is wrong with people on this newsgroup? There is Mike "I love the ****ing environment and hate all things on two wheels" Vandeman spouting his **** everywhere else all over this forum, and on the rare occasion that someone comes on here to ask something that is genuinely mountain bike related you lot shoot him down in flames and take the ****.
As to the question raised by the OP it is "bike" not "byke". The two bikes that you refer two are virtually identical apart from the fact that the 4400 has slightly better componenets. This may have been quite obvious to most people on here, but it seems fairly forgiveable to me.
Sure the question is one that comes up a lot but just answer his question rather than give some smarmy answer. FYI googling trek 4400 and 3300 didnt come up with a great deal. A straightforward explanation would not have been too difficult now would it?
People need to put their prejudices to one side, stop being so cliquey and answer the mans simple f*cking question.
Rant over.
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Corvus Corvax
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Slack
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[email protected] wrote:
>
> Piphil wrote:
>
>>Hi,
>>
>>Anyone have an opinion about these bykes?
>>
>>Thanks.
>
>
> Fun to watch ... with a beer in your hand, but generally not worth the
> effort.
>
> Oh wait you meant bikes ...
>
> Never mind.
>
> R
>
hehehehe
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>
> Piphil wrote:
>
>>Hi,
>>
>>Anyone have an opinion about these bykes?
>>
>>Thanks.
>
>
> Fun to watch ... with a beer in your hand, but generally not worth the
> effort.
>
> Oh wait you meant bikes ...
>
> Never mind.
>
> R
>
hehehehe
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R
davebee wrote:
> [email protected] Wrote:
> > Piphil wrote:
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > Anyone have an opinion about these bykes?
> > >
> > > Thanks.
> >
> > Fun to watch ... with a beer in your hand, but generally not worth the
> > effort.
> >
> > Oh wait you meant bikes ...
> >
> > Never mind.
> >
> > R
>
> No offence to the above poster specifically but
No offence, but put down the crack pipe and back away slowly.
Take a deep breath and lighten-up.
> what is wrong with
> people on this newsgroup?
I don't have all day, but this group doesn't seem all that different
from any other usenet alt.
<snip Mike rant>
> and on the rare occasion that someone comes on
> here to ask something that is genuinely mountain bike related you lot
> shoot him down in flames and take the ****.
That was not a flame, and if you think it was ... you haven't been
around usenet long enough.
> As to the question raised by the OP it is "bike" not "byke". The two
> bikes that you refer two are virtually identical apart from the fact
> that the 4400 has slightly better componenets. This may have been quite
> obvious to most people on here, but it seems fairly forgiveable to me.
How about this what country is the bike being purchased in? Have you
given any thought as to how bike spec's change from country to country?
In the U.S the 4300 comes with Shimano M495 centerlock hubs, WTB Speed
Disc rims, and M475 mechanical disc brakes. That pretty much kicks the
**** out of the UK spec'd 4400, with its Tektro 845AL V's. Then again
the 4400 isn't even offered in the U.S., nor is a non-disc option for
the 2005 4300.
> Sure the question is one that comes up a lot but just answer his
> question rather than give some smarmy answer.
It wasn't really a swarmy answer, more of a quip.
Then again, it really wasn't much of a question. The op asked for an
opinion ... here's an opinion:
The op should go out and ride as many bikes as he can find at that
pricepoint, and buy the one that fits and feels the best.
Beyond that he should consider other brands, because in my opinion Trek
is a pos company that uses choke hold tactics on its dealers.
Personally, I would rather chew on tinfoil while having my head shaved
with a cheese grater than ride a TREK.
> FYI googling trek 4400
> and 3300 didnt come up with a great deal.
Next time try looking up 4300 and 4400.
"Trek 4400" 810 results
"Trek 4300" 7,430 results
"Trek 4300 disc" 517 results ... and so on.
So what is the difference?
Assuming that the op was looking at a UK 4400 and 4300 and not variants
like the 4300 rigid or 4300 disc.
Top to bottom ... they use the same frame, and the frame is the heart
and soul of the machine. They both come with pos RST forks ... but that
is to be expected with an entry level bike. The wheel set is a wash.
The drivetrain for the 4400E (assuming this is a U.K. bike) gets an
upgrade for the shifters as well as the front and rear derailleurs. The
rest of the drive train and components stay the same.
So here's another oppinion ... Given that there are only minor
differences in the drivetrain and fork( the bikes should fit and ride
the same), buy the 4300. Run the fork untill it dies and then replace
it with a decent unit. Same goes for the front and rear ders.
> A straightforward explanation
> would not have been too difficult now would it?
Not particularly ... but then again I didn't see much useful
information coming from you, nor did I see an "opinion."
> People need to put their prejudices to one side,
Bwwwahhaaahhaaaa
> stop being so cliquey
Welcome to usenet ... grow some skin
> and answer the mans simple f*cking question.
He didn't ask a specific question, and he didn't provide much
information. Country of orgin? Model year? Intended use? Oh yah and he
asked for an opinion ... and opinions are the stuff of flames ...
since they need no basis in fact.
> Rant over.
Not really a rant, was it? More of a little bit of whining held
together with some weak information, a google search, and a few typos
(where does one find a 3300 MTB?).
R
Foxtrot Oscar
> [email protected] Wrote:
> > Piphil wrote:
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > Anyone have an opinion about these bykes?
> > >
> > > Thanks.
> >
> > Fun to watch ... with a beer in your hand, but generally not worth the
> > effort.
> >
> > Oh wait you meant bikes ...
> >
> > Never mind.
> >
> > R
>
> No offence to the above poster specifically but
No offence, but put down the crack pipe and back away slowly.
Take a deep breath and lighten-up.
> what is wrong with
> people on this newsgroup?
I don't have all day, but this group doesn't seem all that different
from any other usenet alt.
<snip Mike rant>
> and on the rare occasion that someone comes on
> here to ask something that is genuinely mountain bike related you lot
> shoot him down in flames and take the ****.
That was not a flame, and if you think it was ... you haven't been
around usenet long enough.
> As to the question raised by the OP it is "bike" not "byke". The two
> bikes that you refer two are virtually identical apart from the fact
> that the 4400 has slightly better componenets. This may have been quite
> obvious to most people on here, but it seems fairly forgiveable to me.
How about this what country is the bike being purchased in? Have you
given any thought as to how bike spec's change from country to country?
In the U.S the 4300 comes with Shimano M495 centerlock hubs, WTB Speed
Disc rims, and M475 mechanical disc brakes. That pretty much kicks the
**** out of the UK spec'd 4400, with its Tektro 845AL V's. Then again
the 4400 isn't even offered in the U.S., nor is a non-disc option for
the 2005 4300.
> Sure the question is one that comes up a lot but just answer his
> question rather than give some smarmy answer.
It wasn't really a swarmy answer, more of a quip.
Then again, it really wasn't much of a question. The op asked for an
opinion ... here's an opinion:
The op should go out and ride as many bikes as he can find at that
pricepoint, and buy the one that fits and feels the best.
Beyond that he should consider other brands, because in my opinion Trek
is a pos company that uses choke hold tactics on its dealers.
Personally, I would rather chew on tinfoil while having my head shaved
with a cheese grater than ride a TREK.
> FYI googling trek 4400
> and 3300 didnt come up with a great deal.
Next time try looking up 4300 and 4400.
"Trek 4400" 810 results
"Trek 4300" 7,430 results
"Trek 4300 disc" 517 results ... and so on.
So what is the difference?
Assuming that the op was looking at a UK 4400 and 4300 and not variants
like the 4300 rigid or 4300 disc.
Top to bottom ... they use the same frame, and the frame is the heart
and soul of the machine. They both come with pos RST forks ... but that
is to be expected with an entry level bike. The wheel set is a wash.
The drivetrain for the 4400E (assuming this is a U.K. bike) gets an
upgrade for the shifters as well as the front and rear derailleurs. The
rest of the drive train and components stay the same.
So here's another oppinion ... Given that there are only minor
differences in the drivetrain and fork( the bikes should fit and ride
the same), buy the 4300. Run the fork untill it dies and then replace
it with a decent unit. Same goes for the front and rear ders.
> A straightforward explanation
> would not have been too difficult now would it?
Not particularly ... but then again I didn't see much useful
information coming from you, nor did I see an "opinion."
> People need to put their prejudices to one side,
Bwwwahhaaahhaaaa
> stop being so cliquey
Welcome to usenet ... grow some skin
> and answer the mans simple f*cking question.
He didn't ask a specific question, and he didn't provide much
information. Country of orgin? Model year? Intended use? Oh yah and he
asked for an opinion ... and opinions are the stuff of flames ...
since they need no basis in fact.
> Rant over.
Not really a rant, was it? More of a little bit of whining held
together with some weak information, a google search, and a few typos
(where does one find a 3300 MTB?).
R
Foxtrot Oscar
P
Phil, Squid-in-Training
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Piphil wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Anyone have an opinion about these bykes?
>
> Thanks.
Under ~$500, all bike-shop mountain bikes are basically the same.
Altus/Acera, MRX, EF-29, 7-speed, 8-speed, Suntour, Kalin, SIS... if the
bike has any of these markings anywhere on it, then it's a cheap bike. A
$250 mountain bike will work as well and last as long as a $400 bike.
Honest.
Look for a good bike shop that offers free tune-ups in the first year (or
lifetime), and guarantees their work. Also look for bike shop employees
that actually ride bikes.
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Phil, Squid-in-Training
> Hi,
>
> Anyone have an opinion about these bykes?
>
> Thanks.
Under ~$500, all bike-shop mountain bikes are basically the same.
Altus/Acera, MRX, EF-29, 7-speed, 8-speed, Suntour, Kalin, SIS... if the
bike has any of these markings anywhere on it, then it's a cheap bike. A
$250 mountain bike will work as well and last as long as a $400 bike.
Honest.
Look for a good bike shop that offers free tune-ups in the first year (or
lifetime), and guarantees their work. Also look for bike shop employees
that actually ride bikes.
--
Phil, Squid-in-Training
D
Dave W
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"Slack" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> [email protected] wrote:
>
>>
>> Piphil wrote:
>>
>>>Hi,
>>>
>>>Anyone have an opinion about these bykes?
>>>
>>>Thanks.
>>
>>
>> Fun to watch ... with a beer in your hand, but generally not worth the
>> effort.
>>
>> Oh wait you meant bikes ...
>>
>> Never mind.
>>
>> R
>>
> hehehehe
>
> --
> Slack - I live in bykeland
walking with the weirds...
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> [email protected] wrote:
>
>>
>> Piphil wrote:
>>
>>>Hi,
>>>
>>>Anyone have an opinion about these bykes?
>>>
>>>Thanks.
>>
>>
>> Fun to watch ... with a beer in your hand, but generally not worth the
>> effort.
>>
>> Oh wait you meant bikes ...
>>
>> Never mind.
>>
>> R
>>
> hehehehe
>
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> Slack - I live in bykeland
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