Trek OCLV 110 vs. OCLV 120

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  1. MartyM

    MartyM New Member

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    Is there a marked difference in the ride and handling between the Trek OCLV 110 (5900) and the OCLV 120 (5500/5200)? I have ridden the 5200 and am wondering how much ahrsher the 5900 ride is.

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  2. shokhead1

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    Not sure but i was reading that the 5000 isnt a trek frame but a giant one.
     
  3. bigfloppyllama

    bigfloppyllama New Member

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    Huh? All the 5x00 series of Trek's bikes are definitely Trek's, not giant's. To the original question, I've heard from some that the OCLV 110 (5900, Madone) is a little harsher than the OCLV 120 (5500, 5200, 5000). Not sure how truthful that is though, a guy I regularly ride with loves the feel of his 5900.
     
  4. zerokoo0l

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    I think what you may have read and/or possibly misunderstood part of a white paper originally provided by Trek to their dealers via their dealer website that compared the 5000 to the 5200 and stated that the reason they were releasing the 5000 was to be competitive with some lower priced carbon framed bikes from Giant and a few other brands. The paper goes on specifically compare the 5000 to the Giant and speaks about the main advantage Trek has is in the quality and workmanship of the frame, fork, and wheels which come on the 5000. I have the paper around here somewhere and if I can dig it up will post a more exact account. I do not know if the paper was ever made public as it was written as sales information for the trade, I happened to get it when I visited a dealer over the winter who printed up the only information he could find for me on that specific bike off of the dealer resource site. I bought the 5200 instead as I think in the end it just made more sense for me and have since made a few additional "improvements" (Chris King Headset, Ultegra Pedals) but think the 5000 is unmistakingly a lot of bike for the money.
     
  5. njee20

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    When was there a 5000 zerokoo0l, ive been aware of a 5200, 5500, 5700 and 5900 over the last 5 years, but never a 5000?

    I own both a 2002 5900 and a 2003 5200. I bought the 5200 after crashing the 5900 into a car at high speed and realising that training on such an expensive bike was a pretty dumb thing to do! I've had the 5200 about 3 months now, and ive done about 1500 miles on it. It's just the stock spec- full Ultegra, Bontrager Race Lite wheels, Bonty bar/stem. I've put on a Selle Italia SLR saddle and Ultegra SPD-SL pedals. For the first time since i got the 5200 i went out on the 5900 last week, to see how marked the difference was. The 5900 is stock spec (Dura-Ace, Bonty Race-X-Lite wheels), with a couple of upgrades- Giant Carbon stem and bar, USE Carbon post, SLR saddle, Conti GP Supersonic tyres/tubes. The acceleration was noticably faster on the 5900, and it did climb faster, particularly when standing. The front end felt decidedly more 'muted' which i attribute to the lighter fork and carbon bar and stem. I wouldnt say the frame was any more harsh, there may be a very slight difference, but its not something that is really noticable, and thats on the sh*t road surfaces in the UK! I would actually question whether the 5900 is a worthwhile upgrade if you already own the 5500, as the difference is solely the frame. I also find it irritating that on pre-2004 models you cannot change the headset, as the fork steerer is 1.25" at the bottom, but the standard 1.125" at the top, so you're stuck with the crap Klein/Cane Creek headset they spec, meaning you have to take out the seatpost and 'empty' the frame after a wet ride! That really is the only complaint i have, it is a pleasure to ride, extremely responsive and very stiff, a dream to ride. Just to be saved for racing and sunny days!

    Nick Evans
     
  6. zerokoo0l

    zerokoo0l New Member

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    The 5000 is a brand new model priced at around US $2500, it is a 5000 series frame with mixed component group. I think they have finally got the specs up at Treks website. I am not sure if they are offering it in Europe.
     
  7. bigfloppyllama

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    I thought it was ~$2000. The 5200 is priced around $2800 but all the shops around here sell it for $2500. Which is kind of odd, since they sell the 5000 for a little higher than the advertised retail.
     
  8. zerokoo0l

    zerokoo0l New Member

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    I am sorry and stand corrected, the LBS did quote the price around $2000, I opted for a 5200 which I paid $2499 for but I think you are right and the MSRP is $2800. I am not sure how it works but I think TREK has an MSRP and an MAP. The MSRP is the MANUFACTURERS SUGGESTED RETAIL PRICE and the MAP is the MINIMUM ADVERTISED PRICE. My guess is $2499 is MAP.
     
  9. zerokoo0l

    zerokoo0l New Member

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    I am sorry and stand corrected, the LBS did quote the price around $2000, I opted for a 5200 which I paid $2499 for but I think you are right and the MSRP is $2800. I am not sure how it works but I think TREK has an MSRP and an MAP. The MSRP is the MANUFACTURERS SUGGESTED RETAIL PRICE and the MAP is the MINIMUM ADVERTISED PRICE. My guess is $2499 is MAP.
     
  10. boudreaux

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    The 5000 existed in the early years of Trek OCLVs and was equipped with 105. It was dropped for a number of years and the 5200 with ultegra was the least expensive model. The 'new' 5000 is a 5200 frame with some downgrades in the fork and less expensive components. AFWIW, it' is made by Trek, NOT Giant.
     
  11. ewitz

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    Too bad. Giant CF frame are much nicer.
     
  12. BaCardi

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    If so, that is even better!
     
  13. shokhead1

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    My bad,i read it wrong.It was saying why the 5000 is better then the TCR2. I'll take the TRC1 over the 5200,thanks.
     
  14. flysolo1

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    the fork sucks and treks warrenty is bull**** mine cracked and with no accident 4 months old trek gave me $50 toward a new fork
     
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