You'd think he'd have his depression medication on his TUE. I mean you wouldn't just jam any drug into your system... well unless you were trying to cheat that is.limerickman said:
Tyler tests positive for Dehydroepiandrosterone (DHEA)
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tonyzackery said:
apologies if i've led you to believe i have sympathy for his actions. just noting that his "story" (the promise of his early career, the first doping bust, the depression, the problems his mom is having, the downturn in his medication's efficacy, etc.) seems like a bit of preparatory work for the television movie of the week sales spiel. contrary to what rudy'd have me believe, i figure that the whole lot of rock ride doped.
Armstrong can play the cancer card because he's not being paid by Astana to ride. He rides and then attends countless events after each race, which to be honest must be a bit of a strain/PITA. If he was getting a pay check then that'd be a different story...jimmypop said:
Tyler is (was)getting a pay check so he should have had more of an interest in towing the team line.
Just my 2cents.
I think he has his "official" depression meds on a TUE but it seems as though the stuff he was busted for wasn't on his prescription.limerickman said:
Depression.
What is it about this sport which either attracts or exacerbates riders prone to depression?
Having pedalled and race a bit in my former life, part of me can understand the mind numbing effect of sitting hour after hour on a bike training/racing.
However there does seem to be a significant connection between cycling at the pro ranks and depression.
What is it about this sport which either attracts or exacerbates riders prone to depression?
Having pedalled and race a bit in my former life, part of me can understand the mind numbing effect of sitting hour after hour on a bike training/racing.
However there does seem to be a significant connection between cycling at the pro ranks and depression.
An ammendment to the original paragraph:
Tyler Hamilton's career in cycling has ended following a positive doping control, Cyclingnews learned Friday. He tested positive for the banned steroid Dehydroepiandrosterone (DHEA) after an out-of-competition control in early February. Hamilton admitted to knowingly taking the substance which was an ingredient in a vitamin supplement he took in an attempt to alleviate depression. He has decided to retire.
Not really much else he could do really, if he wanted to slide of the sport with a little bit more grace...
Tyler Hamilton's career in cycling has ended following a positive doping control, Cyclingnews learned Friday. He tested positive for the banned steroid Dehydroepiandrosterone (DHEA) after an out-of-competition control in early February. Hamilton admitted to knowingly taking the substance which was an ingredient in a vitamin supplement he took in an attempt to alleviate depression. He has decided to retire.
Not really much else he could do really, if he wanted to slide of the sport with a little bit more grace...
limerickman said:
As I recall, there are studies relating high incidents of depression to high level endurance sports, particularly upon retirement. Don't know if there's an organic effect, or if the sports simply attract a certain obsessive mindset that lends itself to depression. Lemond used to talk about how many of his former Z teamates suffered from depression after retiring.
I think Hamilton is paying his first offense. Probably he is not lying here. And as many riders have confessed, it's very difficult to quit the drug addict... and less easy for him after have been caught.
That is a good example to show how bad is doping.
That is a good example to show how bad is doping.
kennf said:
And of course, if the top men are doping for performance enhancing purposes,
they may also be doping for psyhological purposes too.
It seems that there is some evidence of recreational doping at the highest levels, as distinct from performance enahancing doping.
Sitting on a bike hour after hour, pushing your system to your absolute limit : may have pyschological impact in terms of stress/depression.
I'm not too sure if DEHA would aid with perfomance. DEHA is used as a functional hydraulic fluid, and a component of aircraft lubricants. It is sometimes also used as an ingredient in PVC-based plastic wrap.whiteboytrash said:
Yeah, I googled that too.
Look at it the other way...jimmypop said:
He's not getting paid by the team to ride. So why is he riding? If he has "press time", regardless of what the current topic is, do you think he's not going to try and get some mention of his Cancer Foundation in? Anytime Lance speaks it's all over the net (and elsewhere) within moments.
It'd be a bit like a car salesman passing up the opportunity of a sale when he spots a guy in the showroom with a big bag stuffed with $100 bills.
I don't think he's ever said "well, i'm riding for my cancer thing so therefore I can't cheat" although you may have interpreted it that way.
True to the usual form within the sub-forum, the topic has moved over to Lance.
Ok, admit it guys. You're far more interested in doping than you are in actual cycling. Here to talk about the rise and fall of various dirty athletes rather than talking about the sport and the races.
This thread goes up about a washed out racer no one gives a **** about and it's got 3 pages in a few hours. The Amstel Gold thread has 4 replies, one of which doesn't count because it was by Flyer. Plus Grater has done a couple of posts about the race in his predictions thread. That leaves us with around 5 people on this forum who actually give a **** about cycling as a sport.
This thread goes up about a washed out racer no one gives a **** about and it's got 3 pages in a few hours. The Amstel Gold thread has 4 replies, one of which doesn't count because it was by Flyer. Plus Grater has done a couple of posts about the race in his predictions thread. That leaves us with around 5 people on this forum who actually give a **** about cycling as a sport.
