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  1. I have noticed a correlation between my wife's blood sugar
    and her blood pressure. I want to know if anyone else has
    observed the following phenomena. The first thing I do
    every morning is take her blood pressure. Then I read her
    glucose level. I've noticed over many months of checking
    that when her blood pressure is high, at around 160
    systolic, her glucose level is low in the mid 80's and
    sometimes high 70's. At this point, I give her an Ensure
    which has 19 GM of sugar. Minutes later her BP drops 20
    points as her glucose goes up to around 100. I mentioned
    this to her last young doctor, and she made light of it,
    saying that there could be no such correlation. But I've
    seen it happen enough to know there is.

    Has anyone experienced this sort of thing?

    --

    James H. Bath geocities.comjimbath1

    Love is a gift; a gift you can only have by giving it away.

  2. Quoted message said:

    I have noticed a correlation between my wife's blood sugar
    and her blood pressure. I want to know if anyone else has
    observed the following phenomena. The first thing I do
    every morning is take her blood pressure. Then I read her
    glucose level. I've noticed over many months of checking
    that when her blood pressure is high, at around 160
    systolic, her glucose level is low in the mid 80's and
    sometimes high 70's. At this point, I give her an Ensure
    which has 19 GM of sugar. Minutes later her BP drops 20
    points as her glucose goes up to around 100. I mentioned
    this to her last young doctor, and she made light of it,
    saying that there could be no such correlation. But I've
    seen it happen enough to know there is.

    Has anyone experienced this sort of thing?

    Can't say that I have, but I haven't been keeping such a
    close eye on my pressure and glucose (at the same time). My
    pressure tends to go up or down according to how much I am
    dialyzing (I'm on peritoneal dialysis), so I am probably not
    a good example of this.

    However, do some research (if you can) online, and if you
    find anything, print it out (or take good notes) and then
    show it to your doctor. I hate it when doctors don't want to
    even consider the possibilities of certain things.

    Good luck.

    --
    ~LadySycamore~ Co-Administrator dialyze.org: For renal
    patients by renal patients
    dialyze.orgindex.php

    El Ciberbosque: "Sycamore's next step in the quest for world
    domination" ciberbosque.orgindex.php

  3. Thanks for the reply. I'll keep snooping. And I wish you the
    best of luck with your continued health progress.

    --

    James H. Bath geocities.comjimbath1

    Love is a gift; a gift you can only have by giving it away.

    "LadySycamore" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    I have noticed a correlation between my wife's blood
    sugar and her blood pressure. I want to know if anyone
    else has observed the following phenomena. The first
    thing I do every morning is take her blood


    pressure.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Then I read her glucose level. I've noticed over many
    months of


    checking

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    that when her blood pressure is high, at around 160
    systolic, her


    glucose

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    level is low in the mid 80's and sometimes high 70's. At
    this point, I


    give

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    her an Ensure which has 19 GM of sugar. Minutes later
    her BP drops 20 points as her glucose goes up to around
    100. I mentioned this to her


    last

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    young doctor, and she made light of it, saying that
    there could be no


    such

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    correlation. But I've seen it happen enough to know
    there is.

    Has anyone experienced this sort of thing?

    Can't say that I have, but I haven't been keeping such a
    close eye on my pressure and glucose (at the same time).
    My pressure tends to go up or down according to how much I
    am dialyzing (I'm on peritoneal dialysis), so I am
    probably not a good example of this.

    However, do some research (if you can) online, and if you
    find anything, print it out (or take good notes) and then
    show it to your doctor. I hate it when doctors don't want
    to even consider the possibilities of certain things.

    Good luck.

    --
    ~LadySycamore~ Co-Administrator dialyze.org: For renal
    patients by renal patients
    dialyze.orgindex.php

    El Ciberbosque: "Sycamore's next step in the quest for
    world domination" ciberbosque.orgindex.php

  4. Your observations are opposite to what I would expect. Blood
    is thicker when the bg is high. It is much thinner when bg
    is low. So my expectation would be that blood pressure would
    be higher with high bg because the thickness is greater. Not
    an expert opinion - just a personal theory.

    On the other hand, I have noticed that my wife gets very
    pale when her bg is low. This may indicate that blood
    pressure is too low. Again, just a theory - not an informed,
    expert opinion.

    Anyway, I believe that it is reasonable that one might
    observe a relationship between blood pressure and bg levels.

    <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Thanks for the reply. I'll keep snooping. And I wish you
    the best of


    luck

    Quoted message said:

    with your continued health progress.

    --

    James H. Bath geocities.comjimbath1

    Love is a gift; a gift you can only have by giving
    it away.

    "LadySycamore" <[email hidden]> wrote in
    message -"]news:[email hidden]-
    thlink.net...

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    I have noticed a correlation between my wife's blood
    sugar and her


    blood

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    pressure. I want to know if anyone else has observed
    the following phenomena. The first thing I do every
    morning is take her blood


    pressure.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Then I read her glucose level. I've noticed over many
    months of


    checking

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    that when her blood pressure is high, at around 160
    systolic, her


    glucose

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    level is low in the mid 80's and sometimes high 70's.
    At this point,


    I

    Quoted message said:

    give

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    her an Ensure which has 19 GM of sugar. Minutes later
    her BP drops 20 points as her glucose goes up to
    around 100. I mentioned this to her


    last

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    young doctor, and she made light of it, saying that
    there could be no


    such

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    correlation. But I've seen it happen enough to know
    there is.

    Has anyone experienced this sort of thing?

    Can't say that I have, but I haven't been keeping such a
    close eye on my pressure and glucose (at the same time).
    My pressure tends to go up or down according to how much
    I am dialyzing (I'm on peritoneal dialysis), so I am
    probably not a good example of this.

    However, do some research (if you can) online, and if
    you find anything, print it out (or take good notes) and
    then show it to your doctor. I hate it when doctors
    don't want to even consider the possibilities of certain
    things.

    Good luck.

    --
    ~LadySycamore~ Co-Administrator dialyze.org: For renal
    patients by renal patients
    dialyze.orgindex.php

    El Ciberbosque: "Sycamore's next step in the quest for
    world domination" ciberbosque.orgindex.php


  5. One theory I've come up with to account for the blood
    pressure going up as the glucose goes down is this: her body
    is demanding an elevated amount of glucose and other
    nutrients in order to fuel the healing process going on in
    her feet. She has pressure wounds in her heels (ulcerations)
    which she contracted in the hospital some months back. I
    read somewhere that the body requires 50 to 100 times the
    normal blood flow through a wound site, in order to get the
    materials to the site for rebuilding the tissue and to take
    away the waste products such as carbon dioxide and dead
    cells. Obviously, with such a stepped-up bio-manufacturing
    process underway, glucose as fuel will be needed in much
    greater than normal supplies.

    And here's the rub, if you will. If there is not enough
    glucose per volume of blood, the wound site is going to be
    crying for more blood. In other words, if the blood is well
    saturated with the nutrients the wound needs, then the blood
    flow through the area can be at a slower (less pressurized)
    pace than if the blood is deficient of the needed chemicals,
    in which case a lot of blood would have to pass through, in
    the same amount of time, to deliver the same amount of
    nutrients.

    --

    James H. Bath geocities.comjimbath1

    Love is a gift; a gift you can only have by giving it away.

    "cledus" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Your observations are opposite to what I would expect.
    Blood is thicker when the bg is high. It is much thinner
    when bg is low. So my


    expectation

    Quoted message said:

    would be that blood pressure would be higher with high bg
    because the thickness is greater. Not an expert opinion -
    just a personal theory.

    On the other hand, I have noticed that my wife gets very
    pale when her bg


    is

    Quoted message said:

    low. This may indicate that blood pressure is too low.
    Again, just a theory - not an informed, expert opinion.

    Anyway, I believe that it is reasonable that one
    might observe a relationship between blood pressure
    and bg levels.

    <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Thanks for the reply. I'll keep snooping. And I wish you
    the best of


    luck

    Quoted message said:

    with your continued health progress.

    --

    James H. Bath geocities.comjimbath1

    Love is a gift; a gift you can only have by giving
    it away.

    "LadySycamore" <[email hidden]> wrote in
    message -"]news:[email hidden]-
    thlink.net...

    Quoted message said:

    [email hidden] wrote:

    > I have noticed a correlation between my wife's blood
    > sugar and her


    blood

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    > pressure. I want to know if anyone else has observed
    > the following phenomena. The first thing I do every
    > morning is take her blood


    pressure.

    Quoted message said:

    > Then I read her glucose level. I've noticed over
    > many months of


    checking

    Quoted message said:

    > that when her blood pressure is high, at around 160
    > systolic, her


    glucose

    Quoted message said:

    > level is low in the mid 80's and sometimes high
    > 70's. At this


    point,

    Quoted message said:

    I

    Quoted message said:

    give

    Quoted message said:

    > her an Ensure which has 19 GM of sugar. Minutes
    > later her BP drops


    20

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    > points as her glucose goes up to around 100. I
    > mentioned this to


    her

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    last

    Quoted message said:

    > young doctor, and she made light of it, saying that
    > there could be


    no

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    such

    Quoted message said:

    > correlation. But I've seen it happen enough to know
    > there is.
    >
    > Has anyone experienced this sort of thing?
    >

    Can't say that I have, but I haven't been keeping such
    a close eye on


    my

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    pressure and glucose (at the same time). My pressure
    tends to go up or down according to how much I am
    dialyzing (I'm on peritoneal


    dialysis),

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    so I am probably not a good example of this.

    However, do some research (if you can) online, and if
    you find


    anything,

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    print it out (or take good notes) and then show it to
    your doctor. I hate it when doctors don't want to even
    consider the possibilities of certain things.

    Good luck.

    --
    ~LadySycamore~ Co-Administrator dialyze.org: For renal
    patients by renal patients
    dialyze.orgindex.php

    El Ciberbosque: "Sycamore's next step in the quest for
    world domination" ciberbosque.orgindex.php



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