Ullrich accused of fraud

[Ullefan]

The prosecutor’s office in the German city of Bonn are considering charging Jan Ullrich, Oscar Sevilla and Rudy Pevenage with fraud and infractions of the law on the use of medical products. A criminal complaint against the trio has been made by Britta Bannenberg, a former athlete and now professor specialising in criminology at the University of Bielefeld.

Bannenberg says in her petition to the court that her accusation of fraud is based on the fact that “Jan Ullrich has hidden from T-Mobile the use of illegal substances and he has procured these using his salary and race prizes”. Pevenage, who is Ullrich’s long-time mentor and adviser, is accused based on his close link with the 1997 Tour de France winner.

This pair, plus Spanish rider Sevilla are implicated in the Operacion Puerto blood doping investigation in Spain. A decision on whether the case will be taken up against the three men is expected to be within the next week.

The Puerto inquiry took another step forward today when Eufemiano Fuentes and José Luis Merino, respectively the doctor and haematologist at the centre of the suspected blood doping ring, appeared in court in Madrid. Fuentes spent two hours being interviewed by the judge overseeing the case with a view to deciding whether or not the case will go to trial.

The decision is likely to depend on the results of tests undertaken on the bags of blood and plasma seized by Spanish police in various premises in Madrid. Fuentes has persisted with his denial of involvement in any type of blood doping.
http://www.procycling.com/news.aspx?ID=2325

 

[Ullefan]

Has the report of Operation Puerto finished and been released, or hasn't it?
Since when can you sanction a rider and charge with fraud based on conjecture? There's so much more to this story that I would like to know.

 

[acpinto]

Has the report of Operation Puerto finished and been released, or hasn't it?
Since when can you sanction a rider and charge with fraud based on conjecture? There's so much more to this story that I would like to know.

That his a problem, i don´t believe they stand a chance, all world as convicted them. (basso , ulrich )

Their teams didn´t suport them, so everyone thinks they are guilty.

I´m going to compare Schumi to this cyclists.

Do you believe schumi had a fair trial in monaco!

No one in this year was ever punished for don´t let a car pass in qualification.( before and after monaco)
Fisichella before schuni was senteced was already senteced to lost five places in the starting grid. Did you beleive they will not penalise schumi even if they can´t prove he did it on propose.

Same case here, they are already convicted.

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[Ullefan]

That his a problem, i don´t believe they stand a chance, all world as convicted them. (basso , ulrich )

Their teams didn´t suport them, so everyone thinks they are guilty.

I´m going to compare Schumi to this cyclists.

Do you believe schumi had a fair trial in monaco!

No one in this year was ever punished for don´t let a car pass in qualification.( before and after monaco)
Fisichella before schuni was senteced was already senteced to lost five places in the starting grid. Did you beleive they will not penalise schumi even if they can´t prove he did it on propose.

Same case here, they are already convicted.

No offence, but that's not the way the law works. I'm not suggesting they're not guilty.

 

[limerickman]

The prosecutor’s office in the German city of Bonn are considering charging Jan Ullrich, Oscar Sevilla and Rudy Pevenage with fraud and infractions of the law on the use of medical products. A criminal complaint against the trio has been made by Britta Bannenberg, a former athlete and now professor specialising in criminology at the University of Bielefeld.

Bannenberg says in her petition to the court that her accusation of fraud is based on the fact that “Jan Ullrich has hidden from T-Mobile the use of illegal substances and he has procured these using his salary and race prizes”. Pevenage, who is Ullrich’s long-time mentor and adviser, is accused based on his close link with the 1997 Tour de France winner.

This pair, plus Spanish rider Sevilla are implicated in the Operacion Puerto blood doping investigation in Spain. A decision on whether the case will be taken up against the three men is expected to be within the next week.

The Puerto inquiry took another step forward today when Eufemiano Fuentes and José Luis Merino, respectively the doctor and haematologist at the centre of the suspected blood doping ring, appeared in court in Madrid. Fuentes spent two hours being interviewed by the judge overseeing the case with a view to deciding whether or not the case will go to trial.

The decision is likely to depend on the results of tests undertaken on the bags of blood and plasma seized by Spanish police in various premises in Madrid. Fuentes has persisted with his denial of involvement in any type of blood doping.
http://www.procycling.com/news.aspx?ID=2325

One flaw - Bannenberg talks about PED's.

What PED's?

 

[Bro Deal]

I´m going to compare Schumi to this cyclists.

Do you believe schumi had a fair trial in monaco!

I don't know if Schumacher got a fair trial, but I think the punishment was appropriate. I do think he deliberately tried to prevent anyone from bettering his time by parking his car on the track. When the heat is on Schumi will do anything to win.

Now if Alonso's car will only break down for a race, Schumacher might have a chance at the championship. The new points system is stupid.

 

[acpinto]

I don't know if Schumacher got a fair trial, but I think the punishment was appropriate. I do think he deliberately tried to prevent anyone from bettering his time by parking his car on the track. When the heat is on Schumi will do anything to win.

Now if Alonso's car will only break down for a race, Schumacher might have a chance at the championship. The new points system is stupid.

Yes i´m not saying that the punishment wasn´t fair, i´m saying that the decision was already made. Like ulrich, what one thinks is ahead of what the facts explain.

I would prefer like in the 80´s. the point system omly allaowed 11 results wich give the riders will to wild and take chances that know they can´t take, because 1 race without points can be a disaster

 

[cyclingheroes]

The prosecutor’s office in the German city of Bonn are considering charging Jan Ullrich, Oscar Sevilla and Rudy Pevenage with fraud and infractions of the law on the use of medical products. A criminal complaint against the trio has been made by Britta Bannenberg, a former athlete and now professor specialising in criminology at the University of Bielefeld.

Bannenberg says in her petition to the court that her accusation of fraud is based on the fact that “Jan Ullrich has hidden from T-Mobile the use of illegal substances and he has procured these using his salary and race prizes”. Pevenage, who is Ullrich’s long-time mentor and adviser, is accused based on his close link with the 1997 Tour de France winner.

This pair, plus Spanish rider Sevilla are implicated in the Operacion Puerto blood doping investigation in Spain. A decision on whether the case will be taken up against the three men is expected to be within the next week.

The Puerto inquiry took another step forward today when Eufemiano Fuentes and José Luis Merino, respectively the doctor and haematologist at the centre of the suspected blood doping ring, appeared in court in Madrid. Fuentes spent two hours being interviewed by the judge overseeing the case with a view to deciding whether or not the case will go to trial.

The decision is likely to depend on the results of tests undertaken on the bags of blood and plasma seized by Spanish police in various premises in Madrid. Fuentes has persisted with his denial of involvement in any type of blood doping.
http://www.procycling.com/news.aspx?ID=2325

Good pr move by Britta Bannenberg, she is giving interviews all day and will be in most German newspapers tomorrow.

 

[Ullefan]

Good pr move by Britta Bannenberg, she is giving interviews all day and will be in most German newspapers tomorrow.

Maybe I overlooked something, she's campaining against them? Why, did he turn her down for Sara?

 

[Mansmind]

I don't know if Schumacher got a fair trial, but I think the punishment was appropriate. I do think he deliberately tried to prevent anyone from bettering his time by parking his car on the track. When the heat is on Schumi will do anything to win.

Now if Alonso's car will only break down for a race, Schumacher might have a chance at the championship. The new points system is stupid.

I agree. As I recall it's not the first time Schumacher has done something like that. I must have watched that clip 20 times.. it certainly LOOKED intentional. May not have been in actuality, but it's hard to fault them for giving him the penalty.

 

[acpinto]

I agree. As I recall it's not the first time Schumacher has done something like that. I must have watched that clip 20 times.. it certainly LOOKED intentional. May not have been in actuality, but it's hard to fault them for giving him the penalty.

i´mnot speaking about schumi, i´m saying that ulrich, like schumi, won´t stand a chance because a lot of people had made their mind about this case. And don´t give me that judges are unparcial, because if they weren´t not even a single not guilty had been convicted, and we Know there are alot of people that has been convicted without reason.

 

[Mansmind]

i´mnot speaking about schumi, i´m saying that ulrich, like schumi, won´t stand a chance because a lot of people had made their mind about this case. And don´t give me that judges are unparcial, because if they weren´t not even a single not guilty had been convicted, and we Know there are alot of people that has been convicted without reason.

That's true, I agree with what you're saying. Although.. he hasn't been convicted of anything officially..and as yet, not even charged. As such, he's innocent until proven guilty.

I'll get on my soapbox again though... If he's innocent, you would think that in the face of the current "public opinion" he would simply do the DNA test and put the whole issue to bed. That fact that he hasn't (yet) raises additional suspicion. Of course he's getting advised by his attorneys to not do that, which from a strictly legal standpoint..makes sense. I think he IS in the position that he has to consider what the final public opinion will be however..fans are important. Apparently the German press is already crucifying him (according to CyclingHeroes here).

He's hiding behind technicalities (so far). So is Basso, so did Armstrong.

On the other hand, WE (as fans) do not know the whole story. I have to believe that from T-Mobile to take the action they did, and if they really charge him with fraud.... that they've seen something we haven't. Maybe we'll see in time.

 

[sonicman]

The difference is that Shumi is usually closer to Lance Armstrong than to Jan Ullrich. 7 titles... Remember someone?

 

[sydsyd]

Good pr move by Britta Bannenberg, she is giving interviews all day and will be in most German newspapers tomorrow.

Who the hell is this person? Can anyone bring a fraud charge like that? Like the janitor at the T-Mobile headquarters. *laugh* This story is just weird. Sounds like a famewhore looking for their 15 minutes.

 

[meandmybike]

One flaw - Bannenberg talks about PED's.

What PED's?

She's quoted as saying 'illegal substances'. A bag of blood would fall into this category. There's no legitimate reason for Ullrich's blood to be in Fuentes' posession. It's DNA test or bust time.

 

[Flyer]

yyete

The prosecutor’s office in the German city of Bonn are considering charging Jan Ullrich, Oscar Sevilla and Rudy Pevenage with fraud and infractions of the law on the use of medical products. A criminal complaint against the trio has been made by Britta Bannenberg, a former athlete and now professor specialising in criminology at the University of Bielefeld.


Bannenberg says in her petition to the court that her accusation of fraud is based on the fact that “Jan Ullrich has hidden from T-Mobile the use of illegal substances and he has procured these using his salary and race prizes”. Pevenage, who is Ullrich’s long-time mentor and adviser, is accused based on his close link with the 1997 Tour de France winner.

This pair, plus Spanish rider Sevilla are implicated in the Operacion Puerto blood doping investigation in Spain. A decision on whether the case will be taken up against the three men is expected to be within the next week.

The Puerto inquiry took another step forward today when Eufemiano Fuentes and José Luis Merino, respectively the doctor and haematologist at the centre of the suspected blood doping ring, appeared in court in Madrid. Fuentes spent two hours being interviewed by the judge overseeing the case with a view to deciding whether or not the case will go to trial.

The decision is likely to depend on the results of tests undertaken on the bags of blood and plasma seized by Spanish police in various premises in Madrid. Fuentes has persisted with his denial of involvement in any type of blood doping.
http://www.procycling.com/news.aspx?ID=2325

 

[Flyer]

Has the report of Operation Puerto finished and been released, or hasn't it?
Since when can you sanction a rider and charge with fraud based on conjecture? There's so much more to this story that I would like to know.

now you know! So does Lim.

 

[Flyer]

The prosecutor’s office in the German city of Bonn are considering charging Jan Ullrich, Oscar Sevilla and Rudy Pevenage with fraud and infractions of the law on the use of medical products. A criminal complaint against the trio has been made by Britta Bannenberg, a former athlete and now professor specialising in criminology at the University of Bielefeld.

Bannenberg says in her petition to the court that her accusation of fraud is based on the fact that “Jan Ullrich has hidden from T-Mobile the use of illegal substances and he has procured these using his salary and race prizes”. Pevenage, who is Ullrich’s long-time mentor and adviser, is accused based on his close link with the 1997 Tour de France winner.

This pair, plus Spanish rider Sevilla are implicated in the Operacion Puerto blood doping investigation in Spain. A decision on whether the case will be taken up against the three men is expected to be within the next week.

The Puerto inquiry took another step forward today when Eufemiano Fuentes and José Luis Merino, respectively the doctor and haematologist at the centre of the suspected blood doping ring, appeared in court in Madrid. Fuentes spent two hours being interviewed by the judge overseeing the case with a view to deciding whether or not the case will go to trial.

The decision is likely to depend on the results of tests undertaken on the bags of blood and plasma seized by Spanish police in various premises in Madrid. Fuentes has persisted with his denial of involvement in any type of blood doping.
http://www.procycling.com/news.aspx?ID=2325

wweee

 

[Flyer]

The prosecutor’s office in the German city of Bonn are considering charging Jan Ullrich, Oscar Sevilla and Rudy Pevenage with fraud and infractions of the law on the use of medical products. A criminal complaint against the trio has been made by Britta Bannenberg, a former athlete and now professor specialising in criminology at the University of Bielefeld.

Bannenberg says in her petition to the court that her accusation of fraud is based on the fact that “Jan Ullrich has hidden from T-Mobile the use of illegal substances and he has procured these using his salary and race prizes”. Pevenage, who is Ullrich’s long-time mentor and adviser, is accused based on his close link with the 1997 Tour de France winner.

This pair, plus Spanish rider Sevilla are implicated in the Operacion Puerto blood doping investigation in Spain. A decision on whether the case will be taken up against the three men is expected to be within the next week.

The Puerto inquiry took another step forward today when Eufemiano Fuentes and José Luis Merino, respectively the doctor and haematologist at the centre of the suspected blood doping ring, appeared in court in Madrid. Fuentes spent two hours being interviewed by the judge overseeing the case with a view to deciding whether or not the case will go to trial.

The decision is likely to depend on the results of tests undertaken on the bags of blood and plasma seized by Spanish police in various premises in Madrid. Fuentes has persisted with his denial of involvement in any type of blood doping.
http://www.procycling.com/news.aspx?ID=2325

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[Flyer]

The prosecutor’s office in the German city of Bonn are considering charging Jan Ullrich, Oscar Sevilla and Rudy Pevenage with fraud and infractions of the law on the use of medical products. A criminal complaint against the trio has been made by Britta Bannenberg, a former athlete and now professor specialising in criminology at the University of Bielefeld.

Bannenberg says in her petition to the court that her accusation of fraud is based on the fact that “Jan Ullrich has hidden from T-Mobile the use of illegal substances and he has procured these using his salary and race prizes”. Pevenage, who is Ullrich’s long-time mentor and adviser, is accused based on his close link with the 1997 Tour de France winner.

This pair, plus Spanish rider Sevilla are implicated in the Operacion Puerto blood doping investigation in Spain. A decision on whether the case will be taken up against the three men is expected to be within the next week.

The Puerto inquiry took another step forward today when Eufemiano Fuentes and José Luis Merino, respectively the doctor and haematologist at the centre of the suspected blood doping ring, appeared in court in Madrid. Fuentes spent two hours being interviewed by the judge overseeing the case with a view to deciding whether or not the case will go to trial.

The decision is likely to depend on the results of tests undertaken on the bags of blood and plasma seized by Spanish police in various premises in Madrid. Fuentes has persisted with his denial of involvement in any type of blood doping.
http://www.procycling.com/news.aspx?ID=2325

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