Unborn Chicken Eggs

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On Tue, 10 Jan 2006 06:59:57 +0000, RobtE <[email protected]> wrote:

>cathy wrote:
>> This has been a fascinating thread, but no one has answered (or even
>> asked!) the crucial question -
>>
>> CAN you still find unborn chicken eggs for sale and if so where???
>
>Yes. Try a halal butcher.

I have, but I'm in the US and they seem to be illegal here (the unborn
eggs, not halal butchers). Iv'e been to/called every kosher and halal
butcher I can find in the Los Angeles area and half of them don't even
know what I'm talking about. The other half just say they can't get
them any more.

When I was a kid we used to get them all the time at the market, and
we put them in chicken soup. Everybody fought over who would get them.
The flavor and texture were so wonderful. I really have a craving for
those little eggies....

Cathy
>
>When I lived in north London there was a halal butcher where I regularly
>shopped, primarily because their prices were cheaper than the
>supermarket. Their chickens were plucked but not drawn. If you asked for
>one, they would take it down from the ceiling hooks on which it hung and
>put it on the butchers block. Then they removed the feet and the head,
>and then somehow drew the chicken with an enormous cleaver. I can't
>remember how that worked. The result, though, was that when I came to
>finish prepping the bird for cooking, there were often quite a few
>"unborn" eggs of varying sizes. They were great fried in a bit of real
>butter.
>
>RobtE
 
"-L." <[email protected]> looking for trouble wrote in
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>
> aem wrote:
>>
>> I don't think animal activists are necessarily vegetarian or vegan. A
>> lot of them only care about the pet-type animals. -aem
>
> I know pleanty of "animal activists" and am one myself. You can no
> more stereotype an animal rights activist than you can any other person
> who happens to belong to a particular group. The only commonality I
> can tell is a concern for animal welfare - that is manifested in many
> different ways and to many different degrees.
>
> -L.
>
>

If you put it like that, I am an animal activist to a certain degree.
OTOH, I am not neurotic about it. I am realistic. I do what I can and I
know I can't save them all.

Michael

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"Blair P. Houghton" <[email protected]> looking for trouble wrote in
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>
> [email protected] wrote:
>> Balut is a Philippine snack traditionally made with
>> duck eggs. The balut are incubated up to the 18th day and contain a
>> healthy living embryo.
>
> I think Tony Bourdain got those those in Asia on one of his shows.
>
> --Blair

Someone mentioned Balut in another thread. I would eat unborn chicken
eggs. I doubt you could tempt me with Balut.

Michael

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cathy <[email protected]> looking for trouble wrote in
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> This has been a fascinating thread, but no one has answered (or even
> asked!) the crucial question -
>
> CAN you still find unborn chicken eggs for sale and if so where???
>
> Cathy

Cathy, I don't know but I am going to find out from my butcher. I'm
betting he can, or will, set some aside for me.

Michael

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"Michael "Dog3" Lonergan" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> "Blair P. Houghton" <[email protected]> looking for trouble wrote
> in
> news:[email protected]:
>
>>
>> [email protected] wrote:
>>> Balut is a Philippine snack traditionally made with
>>> duck eggs. The balut are incubated up to the 18th day and contain a
>>> healthy living embryo.
>>
>> I think Tony Bourdain got those those in Asia on one of his shows.
>>
>> --Blair
>
> Someone mentioned Balut in another thread. I would eat unborn chicken
> eggs. I doubt you could tempt me with Balut.
>
> Michael

Ah, Bourdain. He makes me so nervous to watch, but love his travels. The
last one I watched was his trip to Iceland; sometimes I think he is just
gonna go over the edge and not return. I suppose Tony ate those eggs, or
pretended to.
Dee Dee
 
"Dee Randall" <[email protected]> looking for trouble wrote in
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>
> "Michael "Dog3" Lonergan" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> "Blair P. Houghton" <[email protected]> looking for trouble
>> wrote in
>> news:[email protected]:
>>
>>>
>>> [email protected] wrote:
>>>> Balut is a Philippine snack traditionally made with
>>>> duck eggs. The balut are incubated up to the 18th day and contain a
>>>> healthy living embryo.
>>>
>>> I think Tony Bourdain got those those in Asia on one of his shows.
>>>
>>> --Blair
>>
>> Someone mentioned Balut in another thread. I would eat unborn
>> chicken eggs. I doubt you could tempt me with Balut.
>>
>> Michael
>
> Ah, Bourdain. He makes me so nervous to watch, but love his travels.
> The last one I watched was his trip to Iceland; sometimes I think he
> is just gonna go over the edge and not return. I suppose Tony ate
> those eggs, or pretended to.
> Dee Dee

He reminds me sometimes, only sometimes of Toklas and the Two Fat Ladies
(names escape me at the moment). There is not much I would cook out of any
of their cookbooks but the escapades make reading their books a pleasure.

Michael

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Pics aren't great but here are 2 of my 4 brats.
Hoot about to ****** the snack out of my mouth:
http://tinypic.com/jtrw3o.jpg

Ramsey ever curious about electronics breaking into the TMobile bag:
http://tinypic.com/jtrwgn.jpg
 
RobtE wrote:
> cathy wrote:
>
>> This has been a fascinating thread, but no one has answered (or even
>> asked!) the crucial question -
>>
>> CAN you still find unborn chicken eggs for sale and if so where???
>
>
> Yes. Try a halal butcher.
>
> When I lived in north London there was a halal butcher where I regularly
> shopped, primarily because their prices were cheaper than the
> supermarket. Their chickens were plucked but not drawn. If you asked for
> one, they would take it down from the ceiling hooks on which it hung and
> put it on the butchers block. Then they removed the feet and the head,
> and then somehow drew the chicken with an enormous cleaver. I can't
> remember how that worked. The result, though, was that when I came to
> finish prepping the bird for cooking, there were often quite a few
> "unborn" eggs of varying sizes. They were great fried in a bit of real
> butter.
>
> RobtE

Sautéed not in butter but in a bit of chicken fat (schmalz), together
with some chicken livers and sliced onions. If you rendered the
chicken fat at the same time, you had the eggs, the livers and the
cracklings all at the same time. It was a very popular Jewish
appetizer dish for a holiday or Friday night dinner.
 
Michael "Dog3" Lonergan wrote:
> If you put it like that, I am an animal activist to a certain degree.
> OTOH, I am not neurotic about it. I am realistic. I do what I can and I
> know I can't save them all.
>
> Michael

Oh, ITA. You do what you can when you can.
-L.
 
cathy wrote:

> On Tue, 10 Jan 2006 06:59:57 +0000, RobtE <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>>cathy wrote:
>>
>>>This has been a fascinating thread, but no one has answered (or even
>>>asked!) the crucial question -
>>>
>>>CAN you still find unborn chicken eggs for sale and if so where???
>>
>>Yes. Try a halal butcher.
>
>
> I have, but I'm in the US and they seem to be illegal here (the unborn
> eggs, not halal butchers). Iv'e been to/called every kosher and halal
> butcher I can find in the Los Angeles area and half of them don't even
> know what I'm talking about. The other half just say they can't get
> them any more.
>
> When I was a kid we used to get them all the time at the market, and
> we put them in chicken soup. Everybody fought over who would get them.
> The flavor and texture were so wonderful. I really have a craving for
> those little eggies....
>
> Cathy
>
>>When I lived in north London there was a halal butcher where I regularly
>>shopped, primarily because their prices were cheaper than the
>>supermarket. Their chickens were plucked but not drawn. If you asked for
>>one, they would take it down from the ceiling hooks on which it hung and
>>put it on the butchers block. Then they removed the feet and the head,
>>and then somehow drew the chicken with an enormous cleaver. I can't
>>remember how that worked. The result, though, was that when I came to
>>finish prepping the bird for cooking, there were often quite a few
>>"unborn" eggs of varying sizes. They were great fried in a bit of real
>>butter.
>>
>>RobtE
>
>
Im not sure if i am comprehending this subject accurately, but, i
recently found 18 eggs for less than a dollar at a local Asian market
and went to purchase them and was, fortunately, told by the owner of the
market that they were duck foetus's (feti?) unhatched ducks, which are a
delicacy in Asia and often used.

Having grown up on a family farm i am familiar with an unhatched eggs
and the embryos, baby chicks they can contain.

Consulting various web pages about this subject i have found that they
are sometimes deep fried whole and eaten, bones and all like Ortolan's.
They can also be simmered in soup or other wise prepared and consumed.
---
JL
 
cathy wrote:
> I have, but I'm in the US and they seem to be illegal here (the unborn
> eggs, not halal butchers). Iv'e been to/called every kosher and halal
> butcher I can find in the Los Angeles area and half of them don't even
> know what I'm talking about. The other half just say they can't get
> them any more.

I'm just educated-guessing, but, given the fairly recent shift in
economics
to highly-processed meat products everywhere (including butcher's
shops)
and the fairly recent increase in paranoia about gut-borne disease
(salmonella
and e. coli, to name two) it's probably a matter of the fact that every
bit of
loose material in the cavity of the bird is removed and the cavity
given a
disinfecting wash before packaging and shipping.

Back when butchers were butchers, you'd have been buying chickens
that had arrived on his back doorstep still clucking. Now they're
sanitized enough to be dispensed by a pharmacist.

--Blair
 
Michael "Dog3" Lonergan wrote:
> cathy wrote:
>
> > This has been a fascinating thread, but no one has answered (or even
> > asked!) the crucial question -
> >
> > CAN you still find unborn chicken eggs for sale and if so where???
>
> Cathy, I don't know but I am going to find out from my butcher. I'm
> betting he can, or will, set some aside for me.

Latino markets typically sell those undeveloped eggs packaged in one
pound plastic containers same as chicken livers... usually right along
side each other. I doubt you will find them in the typical gringo
stupidmarket.
 
"Sheldon" <[email protected]> looking for trouble wrote in
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>
> Michael "Dog3" Lonergan wrote:
>> cathy wrote:
>>
>> > This has been a fascinating thread, but no one has answered (or even
>> > asked!) the crucial question -
>> >
>> > CAN you still find unborn chicken eggs for sale and if so where???
>>
>> Cathy, I don't know but I am going to find out from my butcher. I'm
>> betting he can, or will, set some aside for me.
>
> Latino markets typically sell those undeveloped eggs packaged in one
> pound plastic containers same as chicken livers... usually right along
> side each other. I doubt you will find them in the typical gringo
> stupidmarket.

I'll never find them in a regular supermarket. Straubs would probably have
some but throw them out. I'll check with them first. Their meat is always
fresh and you can order any cut you want. I'm guessing they dress their
own chickens.

Michael

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Pics aren't great but here are 2 of my 4 brats.
Hoot about to ****** the snack out of my mouth:
http://tinypic.com/jtrw3o.jpg

Ramsey ever curious about electronics breaking into the TMobile bag:
http://tinypic.com/jtrwgn.jpg
 
Ranee Mueller <[email protected]> wrote:

> A hen (pullet) is born with all her eggs inside her.

For that matter, so are human females.

> The animal activist crowd is crazy stupid.

No more so than anyone else.

I don't know why eggs-still-in-hens are illegal in the U.S.,
but it seems quite bizarre that they are kosher, given that
the kosher rule against combining meat with dairy is (as I
understand it) rooted in the idea one should not eat an animal
and its progeny at once.

Steve
 
Steve Pope wrote:
> Ranee Mueller <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>>A hen (pullet) is born with all her eggs inside her.
>
>
> For that matter, so are human females.
>
>
>>The animal activist crowd is crazy stupid.
>
>
> No more so than anyone else.
>
> I don't know why eggs-still-in-hens are illegal in the U.S.,
> but it seems quite bizarre that they are kosher, given that
> the kosher rule against combining meat with dairy is (as I
> understand it) rooted in the idea one should not eat an animal
> and its progeny at once.
>
> Steve

not the meat and it's progeny, but the progeny and the milk which is
produced by the mother. Eggs are considered parve, neither meat or dairy.

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On Sun, 15 Jan 2006 04:32:07 +0000 (UTC), [email protected]
(Steve Pope) wrote:

>Ranee Mueller <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> A hen (pullet) is born with all her eggs inside her.
>
>For that matter, so are human females.
>
>> The animal activist crowd is crazy stupid.
>
>No more so than anyone else.
>
>I don't know why eggs-still-in-hens are illegal in the U.S.,
>but it seems quite bizarre that they are kosher, given that
>the kosher rule against combining meat with dairy is (as I
>understand it) rooted in the idea one should not eat an animal
>and its progeny at once.
>
>Steve


The unborn eggs are considered fleischig.

Boron
 
Boron Elgar wrote:
> On Sun, 15 Jan 2006 04:32:07 +0000 (UTC), [email protected]
> (Steve Pope) wrote:
>
>
>>Ranee Mueller <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>A hen (pullet) is born with all her eggs inside her.
>>
>>For that matter, so are human females.
>>
>>
>>>The animal activist crowd is crazy stupid.
>>
>>No more so than anyone else.
>>
>>I don't know why eggs-still-in-hens are illegal in the U.S.,
>>but it seems quite bizarre that they are kosher, given that
>>the kosher rule against combining meat with dairy is (as I
>>understand it) rooted in the idea one should not eat an animal
>>and its progeny at once.
>>
>>Steve
>
>
>
> The unborn eggs are considered fleischig.
>
> Boron

really? I had no idea.

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saerah

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"Peace is not an absence of war, it is a virtue, a state of mind, a
disposition for benevolence, confidence, justice."
-Baruch Spinoza

"There is a theory which states that if ever anybody discovers exactly
what the Universe is for and why it is here, it will instantly disappear
and be replaced by something even more bizarre and inexplicable. There
is another theory which states that this has already happened."
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[email protected] wrote:
> "Boron Elgar" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>
>>The unborn eggs are considered fleischig.
>>
>>Boron
>
>
> What does "fleischig" mean ?
>
>

a dish that is categorized as "meat" because it contains meat, or is
made with cookware/untensils that have been used to cook meat.

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saerah

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"Peace is not an absence of war, it is a virtue, a state of mind, a
disposition for benevolence, confidence, justice."
-Baruch Spinoza

"There is a theory which states that if ever anybody discovers exactly
what the Universe is for and why it is here, it will instantly disappear
and be replaced by something even more bizarre and inexplicable. There
is another theory which states that this has already happened."
-Douglas Adams
 
sarah bennett <[email protected]> wrote:

>[email protected] wrote:

>> What does "fleischig" mean ?

>a dish that is categorized as "meat" because it contains meat, or is
>made with cookware/untensils that have been used to cook meat.

Thanks.

Yes, it would seem impossible to serve an unborn chicken egg both
without meat, and without having used utensils that were used
on meat.

(What a pleasant thought.)

S.
 
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