OK,
Time to set the facts straight.....
Several years ago, it was I whom wrote to you terminating our friendship via email. And I emphasized
I would welcome a face to face meeting or even a phone call to discuss our differences. You emailed
back specifying those two options were not acceptable as you can write better????
Perhaps you were afraid to engage in a two way exchange face to face?
BTW, for the ensuing YEARS you were obsessed with continuing with sending me your string of emails
crying about my posts on the net. Why you even put letters in zip lock bags on my windshield in
addition to sending me Xmas cards with no return addresses hoping I'd read your dribble. Just to let
you know, many riders saw that silly note you left on my windshield which was destroyed as soon as I
read the first few words. The consensual opinion of the riders was you were and are a nut.
Unfortunately I had to field their many inquiries why you are the way you appear. The final
conclusion is always the same, we all hoped you well in your retirement years.
Integrity is an issue you shouldn't even bring up. There are things you have done which is
"criminal" and could be prosecuted in a court of law. And you were stupid enough to brag about
them to many of your neighbors and friends. Remember I said SOMEDAY what you say may come back to
haunt you?
Are you ready to divulge to the public what you have done to destroy someone's means of income and
livelihood? Or perhaps should I?
Yeah Jimmy, you are one fine person of upstanding stature in your neighborhood....NOT I'm waiting
for you to divulge your "reasoning" for "criminal behavior!"
BTW, there are many whom "know" about this incident! And all agreed you should have been prosecuted
to the full extent of the law!
Jimmy, try to EXPLAIN yourself out of this........OR PERHAPS YOU BETTER KEEP YOUR MOUTH SHUT as it
would be a clear admission to your behavior and the information and facts will be forwarded to the
victim for him to prosecute you!
BTW, if anyone wants to know what Jimmy did, just ask me IN PERSON!
Ed - just presenting the facts - Gin
Jim McNamara wrote:
> Ed,
>
> Allow me to preface my remarks by stating that your constant distortion of the truth renders much
> of what you have to say as suspect. Your rhetoric is ripe with equivocation. Let me help you with
> that one, Ed. Equivocation is falsification by employing language that is intentionally vague or
> ambiguous. You have mastered of equivocation to eether mislead or avoid an unpleasant truth. You
> have managed to deceive some people. I just happen not to be one of them. With that said, I'll
> address the twisted notions that you attempted to pass off as dogma, accorigin to Ed. OK, I'll
> help you with that one too. Dogma is a doctrine accepted as authoritative without any requirement
> of proof. This is precisely what you demand from everyone whenever you open you big mouth isn't
> it? As concerns my favorite pastime, I'll admit that when I first built up my bikes I was
> understandably enthused about, I was proud of what I had accomplished and yes, I did initially
> talk quite a bit about them, and yes ... their weight and their cost, but also their components,
> wheel building, etc., but this was more often than not in direct response to an inquiry. What's
> the crime in that? I recall you doing much the same and never thought poorly of you for doing so.
> Even your website had topics devoted to your bikes. As far as "USED" to ride with, my main "USED"
> to ride with "world class" training partner stopped riding for a while after he retired from the
> pro ranks and then he moved, a fact that you know and conveniently (read deliberately) omitted.
> Deceit ... you do love it so don't you? Have you no sense of fair play? Now, lets not even get
> into ego or bragging, shall we. I'll concede immediately knowing full well that I cannot begin to
> compete with you in that particular arena. When it comes to ego and bragging, nobody does is
> better Ed Gin. As concerns our North Branch trail encounters, I do my best to ignore you, but I
> recall having seen you 4 times. Only once was I stopped having a conversation with two cyclists at
> my day's designated turnaround point. You also stopped to engage these same two cyclists in
> conversation and immediately went on and one about your previous days cycling exploits. I rest my
> case. As concern "past" friends, you needn't fabricate rhetoric for them. No one I know talks
> remotely like that except you. As concerns the number of past friends, in the past five years, I
> have parted company with two people, one being you and the other is someone we have in common and
> he recently called me and expressed his desire to ride with me again. By the way, he had some
> unpleasant things to say about you, as did another riding companion that linked up with yesterday.
> You like to throw out numbers. I'd suggest that if we were to count who has lost more friends in
> the past five years, you know very well how the numbers would play out, so why do you persist in
> publicly setting yourself up for embarrassment yourself? As concerns my prior post that
> precipitated all of this banter, if I am mistaken, unlike yourself and your buddy above, I would
> be man enough to step forward, say that I'm wrong and offer my apology. Let's face facts though;
> insecure as you are, you don't pass up a single opportunity to seize center stage in order to bask
> in the limelight. By your own admission, you are a publicity hound. If your claimed of 21,861
> miles is accurate, it would be extremely uncharacteristic of you to pass up the chance to conduct
> your annual mileage survey in order to inscribe your feat on your website. You know it, and all of
> cyberspace knows
> it ... self-promotion is your specialty and no one is more accomplished at tooting his own horn
> than you are. With feigned humility, you asserted, "I saw no reason to post this on the
> website as it is not all that much mileage in comparison to my many years racing when
> younger." If I am to take you at your word, then I also have to call into question the reason
> why you were compelled to post your three previous year's mileage figures (12,268, 11,014 and
> 14,857). Is it just me or is this a mixed message that flies in the face of your "logic"? As
> concerns the picture you portrayed of me ... in fact, you are a year my senior ... I'm not
> lonely in search of companionship ... my hair has yet to turn gray. Have you no integrity, at
> all? I forgot ... liars don't have integrity!
>
> P.S. By the way, when are you going to learn the difference between "who" and "whom"? I suppose
> when you are able discern the difference between "limescreen shavings" and "limestone
> screenings" and "prowlness" and "prowess". Less time on the bike and more time hittin' the
> books might benefit one who is so feverishly engaged in self-promotion.
>
> Jim McNamara
>
> Ed Gin & Shirleen Kajiwara <
[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:<
[email protected]>...
> > Fastrider,
> >
> > Jimmy's favorite pastime is boasting to fellow cyclists "how expensive AND light" his bikes
> > are. Many of my fellow riders have always asked me why he brags about his bikes so often and
> > mentions whom he USED to ride with. Their perception is he is one ego centered braggart and
> > right they are.
> >
> > Recently others have mentioned to me, "every time I see Jimmy on the North Branch Trail, he
> > isn't riding, just jabbing away," as is the case the last 3 times I've seen him. No need to
> > guess what he is boasting about now, is there? ;-)
> >
> > I OTOH along with a couple of his "past" friends all wish him well with his retirement and may
> > he "find peace with himself."
> >
> > Fair warning though, if you EVER see a black P-38 sitting on the side of the Chicago North
> > Branch trail with a older gray haired fellow looking for companionship, think twice about
> > stopping!
> >
> > But if you do, tell him Ed sent you....
> >
> > Ed -
http://www.2ni2.com/emoticon/grupos/ola.gif - Gin
> >
> >
> >
> > fastrider wrote:
> >
> > > In article <
[email protected]>,
[email protected] (Jim
> > > McNamara) wrote:
> > >
> > > > Stay tuned for more of the same bullhsit from the man who does it best, a legend in his own
> > > > mind and Peter Pan of the recumbent set ... "HEAD" Gin! - Jim McNamara
> > >
> > > You got it all wrong Jimmy, You are the one who is full of nothing but BS with all your self
> > > righteous, self serving, boring dribble you post on the HPV list. At least Ed takes an active
> > > part in the local HPV community, he has helped a lot of people get started with recumbents, he
> > > has organized rides and social events, he has been involved with the HPV racing circuit and
> > > also has a web site with a lot of documented information about fairings, projects and data
> > > regarding many recumbent models.
> > >
> > > You on the other hand have done nothing of benefit for the bent community.
> > >
> > > Jimmy you are just a bag of hot air on the HPV list who spends more time at the keyboard than
> > > riding his bike. Save your big stories about all the world class cyclist you ride with on the
> > > North Branch trail for Ripley's Believe It or Not. Looks like you are the one full of BS
> > > Jimmy.
> > >
> > > Fastrider
