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Jim and Ed- Carol is right. You two grown men??? sound like my young teenaged kids, carrying on at
each other hoping Mommy and Daddy will choose sides. Don't go away mad, just go away!

Jon Shinefeld Philadelphia, PA

"Ed Gin & Shirleen Kajiwara" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Enough said huh Jimmy, I think NOT!
>
> The general readership in this forum as well as the hpv list serve,
alt.rec.bicycle.recumbent and
> other recumbent news lists need to know what the real Jimmy is all about.
I have kept my mouth
> shut and ignored through a "kill file" and disposal of hand delivered
messages for too many years.
> Not once have I replied to you on the assumption the continuing barrage of
e-mail and suspicious
> hand delivered notes and letters in my mailbox would diminish. Therefore
I am forced to air
> YOUR "dirty laundry" once and for all.
>
> The issue of not letting go is first. Many years ago we parted company.
Like I mentioned, it was over and
> I essentially put the issue to rest. You OTOH, started a barrage of
attacks on any email I would post on the
> hpv list serve. Eventually your posts were censored and not allowed, do
you recall? Bad, bad boy Jimmy!
> Then I started receiving "hate e-mail" which initiated the "kill file for
this correspondence," thank you Netscape!
>
> I presume because your electronic mail was bounced, you resorted to
"stalking" me and attaching notes in
> zip lock bags on my windshield and hand delivering messages to my mailbox.
Perhaps the "Fatal Attraction"
> people should hear of this. Please note that this scenario continued for
many years, without a word, reply, or
> comment from me about this on the net. I even had to explain to a dozen
cyclists why you put that note on my
> windshield and give them MY assessment of your reasoning. With time,
sane individuals will let go and
> depart company in a reasonable manner, something which you clearly can
not do, though I recall a email
> from you mentioning I was out of YOUR LIFE. Well, the subsequent actions
clearly demonstrate you
> still need me for whatever purpose as I have ignored you for years till
now. Clearly you are in need of
> professional help, perhaps your St. Johns Wart is not adequate? There is
Prozac you know? Even the famous
> Zach Kaplan mentioned that you were obsessed with complaining about me for
hours at a time when he
> on vacation riding with you. OTOH, at the end of my ride with him, he
asked me why I didn't mention
> ANYTHING about YOU. I casually mentioned many of us "wish him well on his
retirement." Yeah Jimmy,
> I did let go for many years, but it is due time to set the facts
straight.
>
> Regarding me not posting my mileage for the 2002 year on my web site, I
thought you'd be
> happy not to see my best year in decades as the compiling of data from all
over the world and updating
> require a lot of effort and time maintaining the web page, something you
have no idea of. Did you NOT notice
> the compilation of data was to allow riders a place to list yearly
accomplishments, experiences,
> and opinions riding all types of hpv's including upwrongs contrary to you
continuing insinuation
> of alternative intentions?
>
> Your accusation of keeping tally of friends lost is ludicrous as there are
hundreds in the hpv community
> who know me and what I stand for. When one has so many friends, not
everyone is going to agree with you
> all the time. Such is the nature of human kind, something you'll NEVER
have to be concerned about with
> your circle of riding companions whom I can count on one hand.
>
> Regarding me bragging, tackle this one, I can imagine you're festering
over my recent "good samaritan"
> report saving a fellow upwrong cyclist's life in the 41 degree
temperatures of Lake Michigan, huh?
> http://www.ihpva.org/pipermail/hpv/Week-of-Mon-20030414/030027.html
>
> And your continuous obsession and objection to my use of the "endearing"
terms upwrong and wedgie, life
> is full of choices, if you don't like like, deal with it. Perhaps start
your own web site.
>
> And finally the issue of "integrity" has been brought up and you happily
mentioned about
> contributing MUCH to your community. What the law abiding citizens don't
know is your escapades
> and activity to maliciously plan and execute a plan of action destroying a
neighbors principal
> means of business and livelihood through the use of information gathered
from a military manual
> regarding how to stop the enemy. Though I will not air the details at
this time, I wonder
> if you have the intestinal fortitude to "explain why you pursued your
course of action."
> After all, we are discussing you integrity and reputation now aren't we?
Heaven help you
> if your victim ever finds out what you did! I take that back, what goes
around comes around!
>
> In summary, you are an enigma of sorts, confused, hateful, and a
pathetic example of the human
> race. May God have mercy on your sole if there is one in the first place?
>
> A final word to the readers who have read this long OT post, I apologize
if it offended you in anyway.
> Perhaps there are a few of you who can sympathize with what I've put up
with the last few years.
> Thank goodness there are no Jimmy offspring, NOW you are providing a
service to mankind.
>
> Ed - the whole truth and nothing but the truth, so help me God - Gin
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> > Ed,
> >
> > Like Fastboy, you conveniently ducked (purposefully avoided addressing) a number of issues that
> > I raised. I'll let that speak for itslef.
> >
> > The facts ... by the numbers?
> >
> > 1. Yes, you terminated our friendhip via an email.
> > 2. You wrote that you considered us to "have had NO friendship for quite a while" (your words).
> > You never mentioned a possibility for reconcilition. You wrote that sometimes people have to
> > go there separate ways. "Life goes on. Just Deal with it" (again your words), you wrote. I
> > replied thatt you conspicioulsy demonstrated how little you valued our friendship by your
> > obstinate reluctance to even consider the prospect of resolving our diffenerces.
> > 3. You know me better than to think I was afraid to engage you in a face to face. You never
> > indiated that you wanted one and frankly I didn't want really one anyways. I mean ... what's
> > the point? It would have been a complete waste of time and you know it.
> > 4. I have no reason to believe anything you have to say abouty the notes that I placed on you
> > winshield or in an X-Mas card. Their purpose was to refute the lies that I heard you had
> > been spreading about me which were rported to me by some of your riding companions. I just
> > wanted it to stop, that's all. By the way how is it that they read anything after you
> > destroyed it anyways?
> > 5. You know I don't respond well to threats, but do you really expect me to oblige you on a
> > public forum? I suppose it was only a matter of time before your vindictive nature reared
> > its ugly head. You're really a class act. If anyone is really interested in any of this
> > (doubtful actually), why wouldn't they ask me instead of getting your second hand, twisted
> > version of a story. Would you tell them anything of the two years of criminal damage to
> > property that I was subjected to (another one of your deliberate, convenient memory lapses)?
> > Well, playing fair never was one of your strong suits. Hearsay is inadmissbale and without
> > evidence to substantiate whatever you say, you'll be skating on some pretty thin legal ice
> > yourself. Just a thought.
> >
> > I'm fed up with this arrogant and self-absorbed pair and their unrestrained and enormously
> > distended sense of self-importance. I have expended entirely too much time and energy on the
> > both of them and I suspect that the readership is probably sick an tired of this "airing of
> > dirty laundry" from both sides. I am willing to accept responsibility for my part in it, and
> > extend my apology. Enough said.
> >
> > Jim McNamara
> >
> > Ed Gin & Shirleen Kajiwara <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:<[email protected]>...
> > > OK,
> > >
> > > Time to set the facts straight.....
> > >
> > > Several years ago, it was I whom wrote to you terminating our friendship via email. And I
> > > emphasized I would welcome a face to face meeting or even a phone call to discuss our
> > > differences. You emailed
back
> > > specifying those two options were not acceptable as you can write
better????
> > >
> > > Perhaps you were afraid to engage in a two way exchange face to face?
> > >
> > > BTW, for the ensuing YEARS you were obsessed with continuing with sending me your string of
> > > emails crying about my posts on the net.
Why you even
> > > put letters in zip lock bags on my windshield in addition to sending
me Xmas cards with
> > > no return addresses hoping I'd read your dribble. Just to let you
know, many riders
> > > saw that silly note you left on my windshield which was destroyed as
soon as I read
> > > the first few words. The consensual opinion of the riders was you
were and are a nut.
> > > Unfortunately I had to field their many inquiries why you are the way
you appear. The
> > > final conclusion is always the same, we all hoped you well in your
retirement years.
> > >
> > > Integrity is an issue you shouldn't even bring up. There are things
you have done
> > > which is "criminal" and could be prosecuted in a court of law. And
you
> > > were stupid enough to brag about them to many of your neighbors and
friends. Remember
> > > I said SOMEDAY what you say may come back to haunt you?
> > >
> > > Are you ready to divulge to the public what you have done to destroy
someone's
> > > means of income and livelihood? Or perhaps should I?
> > >
> > > Yeah Jimmy, you are one fine person of upstanding stature in your
neighborhood....NOT
> > > I'm waiting for you to divulge your "reasoning" for "criminal
behavior!"
> > >
> > > BTW, there are many whom "know" about this incident! And all agreed
you should have
> > > been prosecuted to the full extent of the law!
> > >
> > > Jimmy, try to EXPLAIN yourself out of this........OR PERHAPS YOU
BETTER
> > > KEEP YOUR MOUTH SHUT as it would be a clear admission to your behavior
and
> > > the information and facts will be forwarded to the victim for him to
prosecute you!
> > >
> > > BTW, if anyone wants to know what Jimmy did, just ask me IN PERSON!
> > >
> > > Ed - just presenting the facts - Gin
> > >
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> > >
> > > Jim McNamara wrote:
> > >
> > > > Ed,
> > > >
> > > > Allow me to preface my remarks by stating that your constant distortion of the truth renders
> > > > much of what you have to say as suspect. Your rhetoric is ripe with equivocation. Let me
> > > > help you with that one, Ed. Equivocation is falsification by employing language that is
> > > > intentionally vague or ambiguous. You have
mastered
> > > > of equivocation to eether mislead or avoid an unpleasant truth. You have managed to deceive
> > > > some people. I just happen not to be one of them. With that said, I'll address the twisted
> > > > notions that you attempted to pass off as dogma, accorigin to Ed. OK, I'll help you with
> > > > that one too. Dogma is a doctrine accepted as authoritative without any requirement of
> > > > proof. This is precisely what you demand from everyone whenever you open you big mouth isn't
> > > > it? As concerns my favorite pastime, I'll admit that when I first built up my bikes
I
> > > > was understandably enthused about, I was proud of what I had accomplished and yes, I did
> > > > initially talk quite a bit about them,
and
> > > > yes ... their weight and their cost, but also their components,
wheel
> > > > building, etc., but this was more often than not in direct response
to
> > > > an inquiry. What's the crime in that? I recall you doing much the same and never thought
> > > > poorly of you for doing so. Even your
website
> > > > had topics devoted to your bikes. As far as "USED" to ride with, my main "USED" to ride with
> > > > "world class" training partner stopped
riding
> > > > for a while after he retired from the pro ranks and then he moved, a fact that you know and
> > > > conveniently (read deliberately) omitted. Deceit ... you do love it so don't you? Have you
> > > > no sense of fair play? Now, lets not even get into ego or bragging, shall we. I'll concede
> > > > immediately knowing full well that I cannot begin to compete with you in that particular
> > > > arena. When it comes to ego and
bragging,
> > > > nobody does is better Ed Gin. As concerns our North Branch trail encounters, I do my best to
> > > > ignore you, but I recall having seen you
4
> > > > times. Only once was I stopped having a conversation with two cyclists at my day's
> > > > designated turnaround point. You also stopped
to
> > > > engage these same two cyclists in conversation and immediately went
on
> > > > and one about your previous days cycling exploits. I rest my case. As concern "past"
> > > > friends, you needn't fabricate rhetoric for them. No one I know talks remotely like that
> > > > except you. As concerns the number of past friends, in the past five years, I have parted
company
> > > > with two people, one being you and the other is someone we have in common and he recently
> > > > called me and expressed his desire to ride
with
> > > > me again. By the way, he had some unpleasant things to say about
you,
> > > > as did another riding companion that linked up with yesterday. You like to throw out
> > > > numbers. I'd suggest that if we were to count who has lost more friends in the past five
> > > > years, you know very well how the numbers would play out, so why do you persist in publicly
setting
> > > > yourself up for embarrassment yourself? As concerns my prior post that precipitated all of
> > > > this banter, if I am mistaken, unlike yourself and your buddy above, I would be man enough
> > > > to step
forward,
> > > > say that I'm wrong and offer my apology. Let's face facts though; insecure as you are, you
> > > > don't pass up a single opportunity to seize center stage in order to bask in the limelight.
> > > > By your own admission, you are a publicity hound. If your claimed of 21,861
miles
> > > > is accurate, it would be extremely uncharacteristic of you to pass
up
> > > > the chance to conduct your annual mileage survey in order to
inscribe
> > > > your feat on your website. You know it, and all of cyberspace knows
> > > > it ... self-promotion is your specialty and no one is more accomplished at tooting his own
> > > > horn than you are. With feigned humility, you asserted, "I saw no reason to post this on
> > > > the website as it is not all that much mileage in comparison to my many years racing
> > > > when younger." If I am to take you at your word, then I also have to call into question
> > > > the reason why you were compelled to post your three previous year's mileage figures
> > > > (12,268, 11,014 and 14,857). Is it just me or is this a mixed message that flies in the
> > > > face of your "logic"? As concerns the picture you portrayed of me
...
> > > > in fact, you are a year my senior ... I'm not lonely in search of companionship ... my hair
> > > > has yet to turn gray. Have you no integrity, at all? I forgot ... liars don't have
> > > > integrity!
> > > >
> > > > P.S. By the way, when are you going to learn the difference between "who" and "whom"? I
> > > > suppose when you are able discern the
difference
> > > > between "limescreen shavings" and "limestone screenings" and "prowlness" and "prowess". Less
> > > > time on the bike and more time hittin' the books might benefit one who is so feverishly
> > > > engaged in self-promotion.
> > > >
> > > > Jim McNamara
> > > >
> > > > Ed Gin & Shirleen Kajiwara <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:<[email protected]>...
> > > > > Fastrider,
> > > > >
> > > > > Jimmy's favorite pastime is boasting to fellow cyclists "how
expensive AND
> > > > > light" his bikes are. Many of my fellow riders have always asked me why
he brags
> > > > > about his bikes so often and mentions whom he USED to ride with. Their perception is he is
> > > > > one ego centered braggart and right they are.
> > > > >
> > > > > Recently others have mentioned to me, "every time I see Jimmy on
the North
> > > > > Branch Trail, he isn't riding, just jabbing away," as is the case the last 3
times I've
> > > > > seen him. No need to guess what he is boasting about now, is there? ;-)
> > > > >
> > > > > I OTOH along with a couple of his "past" friends all wish him well
with his
> > > > > retirement and may he "find peace with himself." :)
> > > > >
> > > > > Fair warning though, if you EVER see a black P-38 sitting on the
side of
> > > > > the Chicago North Branch trail with a older gray haired fellow looking for
companionship,
> > > > > think twice about stopping!
> > > > >
> > > > > But if you do, tell him Ed sent you.... :)
> > > > >
> > > > > Ed - http://www.2ni2.com/emoticon/grupos/ola.gif - Gin
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > fastrider wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > In article <[email protected]>, [email protected] (Jim
> > > > > > McNamara) wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Stay tuned for more of the same bullhsit from the man who does it
best,
> > > > > > > a legend in his own mind and Peter Pan of the recumbent set
... "HEAD"
> > > > > > > Gin! - Jim McNamara
> > > > > >
> > > > > > You got it all wrong Jimmy, You are the one who is full of nothing but BS with all your
> > > > > > self righteous, self serving, boring dribble you post on the HPV
list. At
> > > > > > least Ed takes an active part in the local HPV community, he has
helped
> > > > > > a lot of people get started with recumbents, he has organized
rides and
> > > > > > social events, he has been involved with the HPV racing circuit
and also
> > > > > > has a web site with a lot of documented information about
fairings,
> > > > > > projects and data regarding many recumbent models.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > You on the other hand have done nothing of benefit for the bent community.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Jimmy you are just a bag of hot air on the HPV list who spends
more time
> > > > > > at the keyboard than riding his bike. Save your big stories
about all
> > > > > > the world class cyclist you ride with on the North Branch trail
for
> > > > > > Ripley's Believe It or Not. Looks like you are the one full of
BS Jimmy.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Fastrider
 
On Thu, 17 Apr 2003 16:00:53 GMT in rec.bicycles.misc, Ed Gin & Shirleen Kajiwara
<[email protected]> wrote:

> I presume because your electronic mail was bounced, you resorted to "stalking" me and attaching
> notes in zip lock bags on my windshield and hand delivering messages to my mailbox.

remove the quotes. if he's stalking you, report it to your local police and ask for a court order,
and then have him arrested when he continues.

but it really doesn't belong here.
 
Jim,

Regarding my accusations, you are innocent till proven guilty in a court of law.

Unfortunately Jimmy, you lit the fuse a long time ago inadvertently. Too many of your family,
friends, enemies, and neighbors know the truth and it may haunt you in the end.

May that fuse be a long one, and not reach the destination, at least in your lifetime. Rest assured,
I for one will not help it burn any faster.

Differences set aside, personally I do not want any harm to come to you or your spouse nor any other
human being ever.

Continuing to email, commenting on my future posts and displaying your opinion via other venues
regarding Ed Gin is your choice, do what you must. I'm finished with this saga in my life.

Ed - as before wishing you the best in your retirement years - Gin


Jim McNamara wrote:

> Ed,
>
> Like Fastboy, you conveniently ducked (purposefully avoided addressing) a number of issues that I
> raised. I'll let that speak for itslef.
>
> The facts ... by the numbers?
>
> 1. Yes, you terminated our friendhip via an email.
> 2. You wrote that you considered us to "have had NO friendship for quite a while" (your words).
> You never mentioned a possibility for reconcilition. You wrote that sometimes people have to
> go there separate ways. "Life goes on. Just Deal with it" (again your words), you wrote. I
> replied thatt you conspicioulsy demonstrated how little you valued our friendship by your
> obstinate reluctance to even consider the prospect of resolving our diffenerces.
> 3. You know me better than to think I was afraid to engage you in a face to face. You never
> indiated that you wanted one and frankly I didn't want really one anyways. I mean ... what's
> the point? It would have been a complete waste of time and you know it.
> 4. I have no reason to believe anything you have to say abouty the notes that I placed on you
> winshield or in an X-Mas card. Their purpose was to refute the lies that I heard you had been
> spreading about me which were rported to me by some of your riding companions. I just wanted
> it to stop, that's all. By the way how is it that they read anything after you destroyed it
> anyways?
> 5. You know I don't respond well to threats, but do you really expect me to oblige you on a
> public forum? I suppose it was only a matter of time before your vindictive nature reared its
> ugly head. You're really a class act. If anyone is really interested in any of this (doubtful
> actually), why wouldn't they ask me instead of getting your second hand, twisted version of a
> story. Would you tell them anything of the two years of criminal damage to property that I was
> subjected to (another one of your deliberate, convenient memory lapses)? Well, playing fair
> never was one of your strong suits. Hearsay is inadmissbale and without evidence to
> substantiate whatever you say, you'll be skating on some pretty thin legal ice yourself. Just
> a thought.
>
> I'm fed up with this arrogant and self-absorbed pair and their unrestrained and enormously
> distended sense of self-importance. I have expended entirely too much time and energy on the both
> of them and I suspect that the readership is probably sick an tired of this "airing of dirty
> laundry" from both sides. I am willing to accept responsibility for my part in it, and extend my
> apology. Enough said.
>
> Jim McNamara
>
> Ed Gin & Shirleen Kajiwara <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:<[email protected]>...
> > OK,
> >
> > Time to set the facts straight.....
> >
> > Several years ago, it was I whom wrote to you terminating our friendship via email. And I
> > emphasized I would welcome a face to face meeting or even a phone call to discuss our
> > differences. You emailed back specifying those two options were not acceptable as you can write
> > better????
> >
> > Perhaps you were afraid to engage in a two way exchange face to face?
> >
> > BTW, for the ensuing YEARS you were obsessed with continuing with sending me your string of
> > emails crying about my posts on the net. Why you even put letters in zip lock bags on my
> > windshield in addition to sending me Xmas cards with no return addresses hoping I'd read your
> > dribble. Just to let you know, many riders saw that silly note you left on my windshield which
> > was destroyed as soon as I read the first few words. The consensual opinion of the riders was
> > you were and are a nut. Unfortunately I had to field their many inquiries why you are the way
> > you appear. The final conclusion is always the same, we all hoped you well in your retirement
> > years.
> >
> > Integrity is an issue you shouldn't even bring up. There are things you have done which is
> > "criminal" and could be prosecuted in a court of law. And you were stupid enough to brag about
> > them to many of your neighbors and friends. Remember I said SOMEDAY what you say may come back
> > to haunt you?
> >
> > Are you ready to divulge to the public what you have done to destroy someone's means of income
> > and livelihood? Or perhaps should I?
> >
> > Yeah Jimmy, you are one fine person of upstanding stature in your neighborhood....NOT I'm
> > waiting for you to divulge your "reasoning" for "criminal behavior!"
> >
> > BTW, there are many whom "know" about this incident! And all agreed you should have been
> > prosecuted to the full extent of the law!
> >
> > Jimmy, try to EXPLAIN yourself out of this........OR PERHAPS YOU BETTER KEEP YOUR MOUTH SHUT as
> > it would be a clear admission to your behavior and the information and facts will be forwarded
> > to the victim for him to prosecute you!
> >
> > BTW, if anyone wants to know what Jimmy did, just ask me IN PERSON!
> >
> > Ed - just presenting the facts - Gin
> >
> >
 
You are 'innocent until proven guilty' and 'guilty beyond reasonable doubt' ONLY in a court of
criminal law.

In civil court you may be required to prove your innocence and the standard of proof is
'preponderance' only.

In the court of public opinion y'all are already guilty 'cause I say so!

"Ed Gin & Shirleen Kajiwara" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Jim,
>
> Regarding my accusations, you are innocent till proven guilty in a court of law.
 
"Fab"

When I said I ride a Lightning P-38 and a Merlin, I really should have said a Spectrum Cycles
Titanium, but the frame was made by Merlin to Spectrum's specs.

Jim McNamara

"Fabrizio Mazzoleni" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:<[email protected]>...
> "Jim McNamara" <[email protected]> wrote in message .
> > As for Fab, "my elite buddy", like Ed you just can't manage to get anything right, can you. I
> > not only have never ridden with Fab. I don't even know the man. Care to jump in here Fab and
> > help set the record straigt?.
>
> You're correct there, can't say I've ridden with you.
>
> But I have been known to let other riders know what I think of them when I see them out on the
> road. Most often it happens in late summer when I get a bit burnt out on the bike. I don't
> understand why Ed Gin thinks you getting into an ugly scene with that rider is such a big deal. Us
> guys should be mature enough to be able to dish that kind of stuff out from time to time. It does
> have the good effect of thinning out the weak from taking up road cycling. There are a lot of
> other sports the timid can turn to.
 
The truth about Jim McNamera is that Jimmy uses other peoples names to post follow up posts. Jimmy
obviously has many mental problems so don't take any of his post too seriously.

Jimmy writes long winded dribble and that is what he is best know for.

Now that jimmy is posting messages with the "AA FastBoy name" he is obviously dreaming about being
as fast as the real FastBoy. Keep dreaming Jimmy.

AA
 
In article <[email protected]>, Bentdude <[email protected]> wrote:

> The truth about Jim McNamera is that Jimmy uses other peoples names to post follow up posts. Jimmy
> obviously has many mental problems so don't take any of his post too seriously.
>
> Jimmy writes long winded dribble and that is what he is best know for.
>
> Now that jimmy is posting messages with the "AA FastBoy name" he is obviously dreaming about being
> as fast as the real FastBoy. Keep dreaming Jimmy.
>
> AA

You're right AA. sorry for using your name. I'll never be as fast as either you or Ed Gin. I'm just
a trouble maker and a fool.

I have to get a new perscriptioin from my doctor for my mental problems. I'll never bother you
or Ed again.

My appologies, Jim McNamara
 
Hi,

For those "WHOM" doubt, you should. That's 365 consecutive 60 mile days or 52 420 mile weeks and
that assumes no prohibitive health problems, no prohibitive weather, no other intruding obligations.
What's the likelihood?

Jim McNamara

Ed Gin & Shirleen Kajiwara <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:<[email protected]>...
> Those whom doubt....
>
> Thank you so much for doing the math. You bet I did over 21,000 miles this last season. I saw no
> reason to post this on the website as it is not all that much mileage in comparison to my many
> years racing when younger.
>
> Ed - enjoying cycling more than ever - Gin
 
"Jim McNamara" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> Hi,
>
> For those "WHOM" doubt, you should. That's 365 consecutive 60 mile days or 52 420 mile weeks and
> that assumes no prohibitive health problems, no prohibitive weather, no other intruding
> obligations. What's the likelihood?
>
> Jim McNamara

It doesn't matter what the likelihood is. It's a matter of netiquette. In Usenet cycling groups one
should never doubt another riders claims of speed and mileage no matter how absurd they seem. If you
wish to be faster you only have to claim a higher speed. If you wish to have ridden more miles you
simply claim them. That's Usenet.

Only the foolish to come to Usenet seeking truth......and believe me that's the truth.
 
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The following post were made by Alan Ariail masquerading as me (Jim McNamara)
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Please note the point of origin ... "@attbi.com". AT&T is not my internet service provider. It is,
however, Alan Ariail's service Provider.

Post #1
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From: Jim McNamara ([email protected]) Subject: Re: Ed Gin's "Pathetic example of a gimp" Or how
Ed feels about the disabled

In article <[email protected]>, [email protected] (Jim
McNamara) wrote:

> Hi Gary, Ed, Alan,
>
> This has gotten kind of interesting in a twisted sort of way. Perhaps this recent development was
> intend to get my goat, but actually I find it rather amusing. Now Gary, why would I write the
> stuff I am accused of writing?......

Hi Gary, Ed, Alan, I've got to once again apologize for posting more of my foolishness and boring
you guys. I keep forgetting to take my Prozac.

I wish I had been born without my mental illness problems but you guys and the rest of the readers
on this forum will just have to deal with my senile cyber chat.

Jim McNamara

Post #2
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From: Jim McNamara ([email protected])Subject: Re: Ed Gin's "Pathetic example of a gimp" Or how
Ed feels about the disabled In article <[email protected]>,

Bentdude <[email protected]> wrote:

> In article <[email protected]>, [email protected] wrote:
>
> > Gary, we all have our crosses to bear. You have your infirmity. You didn't need Ed Gin to
> > contribute to your burden. Take solace in this. "God like" Ed will one day have to answer to the
> > real God. Then we'll see who's on their knees doing the praying.
> >
> > AA
>
You're right AA. sorry for using your name. I'll never be as fast as either you or Ed Gin. I'm just
a trouble maker and a fool.

I have to get a new perscriptioin from my doctor for my mental problems. I'll never bother you
or Ed again.

My appologies, Jim McNamara

Post #3
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From: Jim McNamara ([email protected]) Subject: Re: The truth about Jim McNamera, OFF TOPIC
WARNING! In article <[email protected]>,

Bentdude <[email protected]> wrote:

> The truth about Jim McNamera is that Jimmy uses other peoples names to post follow up posts. Jimmy
> obviously has many mental problems so don't take any of his post too seriously.
>
> Jimmy writes long winded dribble and that is what he is best know for.
>
> Now that jimmy is posting messages with the "AA FastBoy name" he is obviously dreaming about being
> as fast as the real FastBoy. Keep dreaming Jimmy.
>
> AA

You're right AA. sorry for using your name. I'll never be as fast as either you or Ed Gin. I'm just
a trouble maker and a fool.

I have to get a new perscriptioin from my doctor for my mental problems. I'll never bother you
or Ed again.

My appologies, Jim McNamara

In Post #3, Alan accused me of doing exactly what Alan is himself doing. How peculiar. Alan, do you
actually expect to fool anyone? Get real. Readership, in evidence, I offer the following very
confusingly worded email in which Alan admits his intentions to make posts to himself by himself
while pretending to be me. He even singed the email as though he were me. Please take note, however,
of the "From:" and "To:" email addresses.

--- Jim McNamara <[email protected]> wrote: Date: Thu, 24 Apr 2003 16:23:59 -0500 From: Jim
McNamara <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Subject: What goes around comes around

---------------------------------
I'll be making follow up posts to myself from now on. People need to knowthe truth about
Jim McNamara.

Best Wishes Jim McNamara

Jim McNamara <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:<[email protected]>...
> In article <[email protected]>, Bentdude
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > The truth about Jim McNamera is that Jimmy uses other peoples names to post follow up posts.
> > Jimmy obviously has many mental problems so don't take any of his post too seriously.
> >
> > Jimmy writes long winded dribble and that is what he is best know for.
> >
> > Now that jimmy is posting messages with the "AA FastBoy name" he is obviously dreaming about
> > being as fast as the real FastBoy. Keep dreaming Jimmy.
> >
> > AA
>
> You're right AA. sorry for using your name. I'll never be as fast as either you or Ed Gin. I'm
> just a trouble maker and a fool.
>
> I have to get a new perscriptioin from my doctor for my mental problems. I'll never bother you or
> Ed again.
>
> My appologies, Jim McNamara
 
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