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Mark Leuck
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"B. Sanders" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:FEwpb.70270$mZ5.435426@attbi_s54...
>
> Pulling away from a pace line is definitely antisocial behavior. People
ride
> bikes not only to go fast, but also to socialize with a group. The group dynamics of a pace line -
> the feeling of running wheel to wheel at high speeds - is a big part of the thrill of cycling for
> many cyclists. By
SOME people want to socialize with a group in a pace line but some do not, I much prefer riding fast
and at the max saying hi as I go by
> > IMO, this is a total fallacy and based on one's personal perception, not facts. High racers may
> > be taller but why would taller be more visible?
>
> Why are taller people more visible in a crowd?
They stand out, on the other extreme a low racer is usually (to me anyway) more noticable by traffic
because of its different design.
> That will make a nice epitaph for lowracer owners. "They should have seen me! It's their fault
> I'm dead!"
Regardless of what type of bike I am on I always assume cars don't see me
> > In 3 years of riding my Baron on many miles of busy, open roads, I haven't had a single instance
> > where I feel someone didn't see me because of the height of my bike.
>
> This is your personal perception.
>
> On the other hand, I have experienced several instances where drivers did not see me, and I wasn't
> even riding a lowracer! If I had been lower to
the
> ground, I would have been killed (the drivers did wake up at the last second, just before smashing
> into me). It's been said that in Champaign-Urbana, people drive in a bubble, unaware of their
> surroundings. I can believe that quite easily, based upon their actions. It's really scary. 4-way
> stops are like a Keystone Cops movie.
My brother lives in Champaign-Urbana, I see no difference between the drivers there and the ones in
Dallas, TX
>
> Barons certainly have a great reputation. However, I'm talking about a
wide
> variety of cycling skill levels. For some people, riding *any* recumbent
is
> hard enough. A lowracer is out of the question, for a variety of reasons (which I've outlined). A
> highracer is more acceptable as a transition
from
> conventional DF bikes, since it looks more like a DF bike (same size
wheels,
> for instance).
It depends, I bought the Vision (first recumbent) because it looked to me better than the rest of
the recumbents sold by that store however if they had a Baron I would have purchased that.
>
> Pulling away from a pace line is definitely antisocial behavior. People
ride
> bikes not only to go fast, but also to socialize with a group. The group dynamics of a pace line -
> the feeling of running wheel to wheel at high speeds - is a big part of the thrill of cycling for
> many cyclists. By
SOME people want to socialize with a group in a pace line but some do not, I much prefer riding fast
and at the max saying hi as I go by
> > IMO, this is a total fallacy and based on one's personal perception, not facts. High racers may
> > be taller but why would taller be more visible?
>
> Why are taller people more visible in a crowd?
They stand out, on the other extreme a low racer is usually (to me anyway) more noticable by traffic
because of its different design.
> That will make a nice epitaph for lowracer owners. "They should have seen me! It's their fault
> I'm dead!"
Regardless of what type of bike I am on I always assume cars don't see me
> > In 3 years of riding my Baron on many miles of busy, open roads, I haven't had a single instance
> > where I feel someone didn't see me because of the height of my bike.
>
> This is your personal perception.
>
> On the other hand, I have experienced several instances where drivers did not see me, and I wasn't
> even riding a lowracer! If I had been lower to
the
> ground, I would have been killed (the drivers did wake up at the last second, just before smashing
> into me). It's been said that in Champaign-Urbana, people drive in a bubble, unaware of their
> surroundings. I can believe that quite easily, based upon their actions. It's really scary. 4-way
> stops are like a Keystone Cops movie.
My brother lives in Champaign-Urbana, I see no difference between the drivers there and the ones in
Dallas, TX
>
> Barons certainly have a great reputation. However, I'm talking about a
wide
> variety of cycling skill levels. For some people, riding *any* recumbent
is
> hard enough. A lowracer is out of the question, for a variety of reasons (which I've outlined). A
> highracer is more acceptable as a transition
from
> conventional DF bikes, since it looks more like a DF bike (same size
wheels,
> for instance).
It depends, I bought the Vision (first recumbent) because it looked to me better than the rest of
the recumbents sold by that store however if they had a Baron I would have purchased that.