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  1. There is such a strong connection between UV and
    nucleotides, that I can't help but think that UV was
    instrumental in the origin of life.

    (this based on info from Intro to Research in UV
    Photobiology, John Jagger)

    1. all bases of nucleic acids are good UV absorbers.
    2. but paired bases are less likely to absorb UV "The bases
    of nucleic acids are often so close together that they
    'stick' in parallel planes, permitting overlap of
    electron orbits, which leads to decreased absorption
    (hypochromic effect)".
    3. 'phosphate or sugar moieties... are poor UV
    absorbers.... One does not expect chain breakage"
    4. 'Pyrimidines are roughly ten times as sensitive to UV as
    the purines. Therefore the only important targets for
    many effects on nucleic acids are thymine and cytosine
    in DNA, and uracil and cytosine in RNA" (This suggests
    why I think there may have been a purine world (A,G)
    that preceded the RNA world, There may not have been
    need for Watson Crick type base pairing at this very
    very early stage.)
    5. Absorption spectra at pH 7 of purines and pyrimidines
    shows a strange difference between the two purines that
    may be important. Adenine, like a single mountain shape,
    peaks at 260 nm, but Guanine is very different and has
    two peaks - one to each side of Adenine. The largest at
    240 nm, and the other at 280. Chemical selection from UV
    would behave differently on each of these.
    6. "Only pyrimidines adjacent in a chain are likely to
    dimerize..." Thus I would think that coding would be
    chemically selected that didn't have adjacent
    pyrimidines.

    All this would suggest to me that what would be chemically
    selected is:
    7. nucleotides that are paired, base stacking
    8. phosphate and sugar are not absorbers and would be
    little effected by UV.
    9. Adenine and Guanine, the purines are 10 x less likely to
    be damaged than C,T, U the pyrimidines, and would be
    more prevalent.
    10. The two purines (A,G) have vastly different
    absorption spectra.
    11. Adjacent pyrimidines (T,C,U) would not be chemically
    selected for

    What seems to best survive UV also seems to represent what
    is most life-like. I don't think that is an accident.

    Also I note this line: "Hydration and dimer formation by far
    UV in pyrimidines are of great interest, because their
    production at low doses and their REVERSIBILITY apply to
    pyrimidines in some polynucleotides and may therefore also
    apply to DNA and RNA."

    Does that mean dimer destruction is reversible? If so does
    anyone know anything about that

    Comment on any of the above?

  2. << There is such a strong connection between UV and
    nucleotides, that I can't help but think that UV was
    instrumental in the origin of life.

    (this based on info from Intro to Research in UV
    Photobiology, John Jagger) >>

    Here is some more on UV from the Jagger book.

    7. "The doses required (in the killing of small cells) in
    the near - UV region are of the order of 1000 times
    those needed with far UV," That suggests that if
    prebiotic life can protect itself from this UV danger
    region it should be safe from UV.
    8. Because there are repair systems to UV, there must have
    been severe UV damage at one time - that forced this
    selection pressure. "Development of such mechanisms for
    maintaining the integrity of DNa over long periods of
    time may well have been a crucial prerequisite for
    biological evolution."
    9. The first cells may have had the benefit of providing
    some protection from UV. "These cells are generally so
    big that penetration of far UV becomes a major problem."
    10 A heat source that keeps a planet in the liquid water
    zone, may not be enough. "The only part of the solar
    spectrum at or near the earth's surface (at the origin)
    sufficiently energetic to cause simple chemical syntheses
    is the ultraviolet region."

    And finally this quote. "The fact that our atmosphere
    transmits right down to the point (~3000A) where solar
    radiation becomes destructive of organic life (and therefore
    energetically capable of producing it) is apparently no
    accident. It lends strong support to the notion that
    ultraviolet radiation was an essential factor in the
    emergence of life on this planet. In the absence of other
    information, we suppose this also applies to the origin of
    life elsewhere in the universe."

    I agree.

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