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Viking Designer (DEDO205) Quality inquiry

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  1. Hello.

    I am asking the group for information or contacts for others
    who may have had similar problems (I refuse to believe that
    the following problems are affecting solely me). THis is all
    within 60 days time, by the way!

    Background.

    Purchased a floor model designer double oven (DEDO205) from
    Delia, the New England (and NY) regional distributor - which
    happens to be located right up the road from me. THey don't
    sell direct (or collect sales tax,etc) so they had us go to
    a local vendor/appliance store (who because they have been
    so wonderful through all this won't get their name sullied
    here.. they really have been very good). so, we had a
    cabinet made specifically for this oven (yes, they are all
    slightly different dimensions, ie; the wolf is 2" shorter
    and 1/2" wider, etc) but it did not work when installed. not
    just minor stuff... convection fan did not work and the
    cooling fan did not cool the oven in the cabinet - plus
    several other cosmetic issues). SO off we go to oven #2.
    Installed a few weeks later (after several more hours wasted
    with repair visits, etc).

    Oven #2. FOUR hours of install by experienced techs. the
    trim did not fit, the heat/cooling shields did not fit (and
    mamed the cabinet trim on the way in, etc). then, when
    finally shoe-horned into my square box (ever try to fit a
    round peg into a square hole?) the oven tripped the fuses
    (no such problem with oven #1 and it slid in and out very
    easily). it was drawing nearly 50amps on a 40amp circuitry.
    not good, to say the least. THis AFTER oven #2 was supposed
    to have passsed a "battery of tests" we could use one oven
    at a time in the interim.

    moved onto oven #3. they agreed to give us one out of the
    box. brand new. not a floor model. installed. and the clock
    did not work and the timer switch indicator was installed
    backwards and upsidedown (actually 90o off, so that is 1/4
    turn upside down) and the dials and glass were broken out of
    the box). to boot, the cooling fans did not properly kick on
    when they were supposed to (the relay switches in the
    schematics indicate on/off at 115o for either oven and the
    fans both come on (via a re-routed wire to jump the other
    one on, if either relay gets hot). and only the top fan
    switch worked out of the box. again BAD BAD dangerous for
    the oven to get hot for so long after use and not get cooled
    properly. one week later.. bottom oven failed. convection
    fan goes on, but no bake or broil element. more failures.

    oven #4 gets installed Wednesday. I am already talking with
    attorneys for my costs and time and aggrevation, but I truly
    believe that this is endemic of a wider problem that is not
    being addressed.

    ANyone else out there had problems with Viking Designer
    ovens? my email is not the econpatrick (probably full of
    spam) so i use another one... it is pbrcpa1963 <remove this
    for spam> hotmail <dot> com

    Thanks for your help.

    PS> if you want, I'd be happy to post the serial numbers
    PS> for all 3
    ovens if you'd like. this is not a joke.

    patrick

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    Quoted message said:

    Hello.

    I am asking the group for information or contacts for
    others who may have had similar problems (I refuse to
    believe that the following problems are affecting solely
    me). THis is all within 60 days time, by the way!

    Background.

    Purchased a floor model designer double oven (DEDO205)
    from Delia, the New England (and NY) regional distributor
    - which happens to be located right up the road from me.
    THey don't sell direct (or collect sales tax,etc) so they
    had us go to a local vendor/appliance store (who because
    they have been so wonderful through all this won't get
    their name sullied here.. they really have been very
    good). so, we had a cabinet made specifically for this
    oven (yes, they are all slightly different dimensions, ie;
    the wolf is 2" shorter and 1/2" wider, etc) but it did not
    work when installed. not just minor stuff... convection
    fan did not work and the cooling fan did not cool the oven
    in the cabinet - plus several other cosmetic issues). SO
    off we go to oven #2. Installed a few weeks later (after
    several more hours wasted with repair visits, etc).

    Oven #2. FOUR hours of install by experienced techs. the
    trim did not fit, the heat/cooling shields did not fit
    (and mamed the cabinet trim on the way in, etc). then,
    when finally shoe-horned into my square box (ever try to
    fit a round peg into a square hole?) the oven tripped the
    fuses (no such problem with oven #1 and it slid in and out
    very easily). it was drawing nearly 50amps on a 40amp
    circuitry. not good, to say the least. THis AFTER oven #2
    was supposed to have passsed a "battery of tests" we could
    use one oven at a time in the interim.

    moved onto oven #3. they agreed to give us one out of the
    box. brand new. not a floor model. installed. and the
    clock did not work and the timer switch indicator was
    installed backwards and upsidedown (actually 90o off, so
    that is 1/4 turn upside down) and the dials and glass were
    broken out of the box). to boot, the cooling fans did not
    properly kick on when they were supposed to (the relay
    switches in the schematics indicate on/off at 115o for
    either oven and the fans both come on (via a re-routed
    wire to jump the other one on, if either relay gets hot).
    and only the top fan switch worked out of the box. again
    BAD BAD dangerous for the oven to get hot for so long
    after use and not get cooled properly. one week later..
    bottom oven failed. convection fan goes on, but no bake or
    broil element. more failures.

    oven #4 gets installed Wednesday. I am already talking
    with attorneys for my costs and time and aggrevation, but
    I truly believe that this is endemic of a wider problem
    that is not being addressed.

    ANyone else out there had problems with Viking Designer
    ovens? my email is not the econpatrick (probably full of
    spam) so i use another one... it is pbrcpa1963 <remove
    this for spam> hotmail <dot> com

    Thanks for your help.

    PS> if you want, I'd be happy to post the serial numbers
    PS> for all 3
    ovens if you'd like. this is not a joke.

    patrick

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