VINO Crashed today! Ouch

[Eagle10]

It has been reported by Cycling News:
The Yo-Yo, Alexandre Vinokourov, waved good-bye early on the Port de Pailhères and finished over 28 minutes back after apparentlly falling on Plateau de Beille, when a fan's flag became caught in Astana teammate's Serguei Ivanov's wheel

 

[Klodifan]

It has been reported by Cycling News:
The Yo-Yo, Alexandre Vinokourov, waved good-bye early on the Port de Pailhères and finished over 28 minutes back after apparentlly falling on Plateau de Beille, when a fan's flag became caught in Astana teammate's Serguei Ivanov's wheel

I just read that on the astana site and was going to mention it here. you beat me to the punch

anyways, talk about things going from bad to worse for vino

 

[HenryLaRoy]

Holy cow! That guy has worse luck than I do! Well, it explains how he lost so much time. I thought he looked good in yesterdays ITT, and I that maybe he was paying the price today. Evidently not.

Well, I hope for the best for him. I mean this is a terrible way to go out of a Tour.

I was wincing when I was watching the Tour today. Some of those fans were really behaving stupidly.

 

[Trajectum]

It has been reported by Cycling News:
The Yo-Yo, Alexandre Vinokourov, waved good-bye early on the Port de Pailhères and finished over 28 minutes back after apparentlly falling on Plateau de Beille, when a fan's flag became caught in Astana teammate's Serguei Ivanov's wheel

Bah.. Its what i always fear for when i m watching those climbs. There're too many morrons running around the riders dressed as chickens/lions/chippendales/morrons and/or waving flags in front of their faces not pulling them out until the very last possible second.

On the one hand its great to see the crowds (have stood there a few times myself) but unfortunately there are too many no brainers who consider the passing of a few live broadcasting cameras as their own "once a year shot" of 10 seconds of fame. jeapordizing the runners.

I seriously hope Vino was already in bad shape today before he fell. I like Vino and it would be even worse if he was just seriously back in the race for like one day just to stumble into yet another blow like this where he could do nothing about :/

 

[Eagle10]

Contador neally had a large white flag fly into his spokes on the last part of his climb. I actually said today I can't believe that fans are so stupid and that so far no-one has been hurt by them. Then I learned this!

Poor Vino he worked so hard to in the TT and believed that he had a chance again. It makes me so angry that an idiot spectator had to create another problem for him. He cannot afford to get dirt skidded into already septic wounds. I think Vino will be quite nervous for now on. I would not blame him if he pulled out. But I doubt that will happen being the warrier he is.

It has been reported he only has bruises. BTW he was 5 miniutes behind when this happened. Difficult to say what his outcome would have been.

I saw the interview with Vino last night and suprised he spoke in English! But more suprised he did not seem that happy. Guess he felt that with the TT he should be in yellow. He said overall he had lost at least 5 minutes with the 1st crash.

 

[Klodifan]

I saw the interview with Vino last night and suprised he spoke in English! But more suprised he did not seem that happy. Guess he felt that with the TT he should be in yellow. He said overall he had lost at least 5 minutes with the 1st crash.

well, when I saw him on the podium last night, he was chocked up. teary eyed. I thought either this is his last harrah in this year's tour and he knows it, or he was just overwhelmed and vindicated for not giving up and really believed he could get back in it. either way, sad, sad stage. its hard to see great fighters go out in such a way.

on the other hand, I am not entirely on the vino sympathy bandwagon b/c if he knew he was toast this entire time but couldn't give up on his own stubborn ambitions costing kloden the tour, then what a shame. it is what it is.

 

[Eagle10]

well, when I saw him on the podium last night, he was chocked up. teary eyed. I thought either this is his last harrah in this year's tour and he knows it, or he was just overwhelmed and vindicated for not giving up and really believed he could get back in it. either way, sad, sad stage. its hard to see great fighters go out in such a way.

on the other hand, I am not entirely on the vino sympathy bandwagon b/c if he knew he was toast this entire time but couldn't give up on his own stubborn ambitions costing kloden the tour, then what a shame. it is what it is.

Kloden now has his own problems

Declarations




Andreas Klöden: “It was one day very difficult for me. My wound with the knee right contracted yesterday during my fall in against-the-shows obstructed me much and makes suffer. Good, there remain still two very difficult stages. I will approach them from day to day.”

 

[Eagle10]

Antonio Colom: “As I do not play a place with the classification general, I awaited Klöden and Kashechkin when I was made exceed by Contador and Rasmussen. It is my role to work for the team, so that one is on the podium on arrival. Today, I am content with my performance, but I am also a little sad for the team. After the stage of yesterday, I thought that one could make still well today. But it is the life…”

 

[Klodifan]

yes, eagle10. unfortunate stage for astana. such highs and lows in 24 hours. such is the tour


kloden has always been so fragile.

 

[Eagle10]

Is this Vino's last TDF?
I know originally he said it could be his last chance to win
Any feed back please.

I do not know after this that he will be sponsored as a Team Captain.
I cannot see him in the support role next year.
Tomorrow will be intesting to say the least.

I hope he will not fade away into depression. Though this tour for him is enough to make a warrior cry.
Hate to see him go out this way.

I see Discovery took the race today as Team Leaders.

Tomorrow is another day.

 

[Klodifan]

Vino said something that this is his last chance. his last tour. he will run the team behind the scenes in the future. no way will he ever be a domestique. so it was sort of do or die with him especially too with all the mounting rumors surrounding him. anyone else want to chime in?

 

[Bro Deal]

Vino said something that this is his last chance. his last tour. he will run the team behind the scenes in the future. no way will he ever be a domestique. so it was sort of do or die with him especially too with all the mounting rumors surrounding him. anyone else want to chime in?

I bet he'll be back for one more try next year. He'll be thirty-four next year I think.

 

[jsull14]

I don't see why riders can't go strong until 37,38 maybe later. Chris Horner is 35 and having his best Tour ever.

 

[Eagle10]

Vino said something that this is his last chance. his last tour. he will run the team behind the scenes in the future. no way will he ever be a domestique. so it was sort of do or die with him especially too with all the mounting rumors surrounding him. anyone else want to chime in?

So you think this is his very last race, period!!!!
Gosh I hate not to see him on the cicuit round he is so fun to watch.

Wonder if Klodi will be the new Captain next year for Astana? I guess it depends on how well these two get along with each other. Do they speak the same language?

I hope Vino goes for another stage win but feel mentally and physically he is done. I am sure he is not sleeping at all and he must hurt everywhere including his hip. I truly admire him though most guys would have quit after such a terrible crash.

Such a very sad story between what happened last year putting one's heart and soul into TDF and then not to go out on top.

I wonder if he will ride tomorrow?

 

[Klodifan]

Wonder if Klodi will be the new Captain next year for Astana? I guess it depends on how well these two get along with each other.

That's a good question. if vino does indeed retire, logic would say klodi would be the captain. however, as we have seen once again in today's stage, the team doesnt seem keen on supporting hilde. when he was struggling, kash should have dropped back and then colum. klodi might have saved ten seconds or more. but later we saw klodi towing kash. now, was that b/c kash couldnt keep up so klodi had to set his own pace or was something else going on? also, kash is a kazack and vino's cronie so he has that going for him as well. although there have been rumors of a simmering rivalry. who knows. add to that mix andy's temperment, his loss of allies and one could write a novel about all the intrigue.

 

[Trev_S]

It looked like Kash dropped back to Klodi because he was a bit spent, Klodi went passed because he could go quicker, Kash just held Klodi as long as he could before he then dropped further back.

They looked like they rode independantly. When Colom was caught and getting reeled in by the others, Klodi must have already ridden passed him when not far from the finish you could see Colom looking back for Kash.

So I'm thinking Kash has a little more team support and Klodi can just ride his own race.