Volnix's Beer Thread! :D



Volnix

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Hi!
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Lot's of people enjoy beer. The ones who dont are just weird.


What are your favorite beers???
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Allthough I usually just drink some 60euro cent stuff that is locally brewed because it's cheap and I can drink alot of it without getting very drunk here are some other interesting ones:

Have you ever tried these? :
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Trappistes Rochefort 6 (not the black one):

Wery Veird...
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Dont know if I like the beer as much as the bottle, but it's a pretty good one...
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Hobgoblin:





and finally my favorite...
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Spitfire ale:






Btw, does anyone else here make their own beer? I tried a couple of times, only with an allready hop-ed concentrated grain slurry and some caramelized sugar so far, but the results were very "reassuring"
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Hi!
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Lot's of people enjoy beer. The ones who dont are just weird.

I do like beer, but I like sober alertness more.

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Quote: What are your favorite beers???
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haven't tried many

Quote: Originally Posted by Volnix

Btw, does anyone else here make their own beer? I tried a couple of times, only with an allready hop-ed concentrated grain slurry and some caramelized sugar so far, but the results were very "reassuring"
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I can help calculate solute concentrations.
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Originally Posted by urge2kill
I can help calculate solute concentrations.
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Actually that's interesting... If you use the slurry.

I used half the water of the recommended solution. So for one can of extract I made 20 500ml bottles instead of 40... Plus some caramelized sugar.
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Have you brewed anything with whole grains?
 
I only helped somebody else brew.

They were adjusting the water's mineral levels by adding ionic compounds (salts). They needed to acheive a specific molarity for each substance. Molarity is moles per liter. A mole is 6.022 × 1023 molecules. The difficulty was that each ionic compound consisted of two or more molecules that would dissolve (separate) in the water. The molecules are rarely present in a 1:1 ratio within the ionic compound. Furthermore, the weight of an individual molecule, and hence the weight of one mole of that substance, varies with its elemental composition. Furthermore, some of the ionic compounds were hydrates, ionic compounds that contain a (usually unspecified) amount of H2O molecules (water weight).
 
Originally Posted by Volnix

Actually that's interesting... If you use the slurry.

I used half the water of the recommended solution. So for one can of extract I made 20 500ml bottles instead of 40... Plus some caramelized sugar.
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Have you brewed anything with whole grains?
What you used is known as Hopped Malt Extract, something many entry-level homebrewers use their first few times.

The brewing I do is a combination of grains and Liquid Malt Extract, then hop pellets added at certain points in the boil. The next step for me is to go to all-grain brewing, which would eliminate the cans of LME, but would also require some more equipment to sparge the grains.

As for what kinds of beer I like, well, I like beer. I tend for darker or hoppier beers, but I'll drink many different styles. I generally don't care for sweet or too fruity.
 
Originally Posted by urge2kill
I only helped somebody else brew.

They were adjusting the water's mineral levels by adding ionic compounds (salts). They needed to acheive a specific molarity for each substance. Molarity is moles per liter. A mole is 6.022 × 1023 molecules. The difficulty was that each ionic compound consisted of two or more molecules that would dissolve (separate) in the water. The molecules are rarely present in a 1:1 ratio within the ionic compound. Furthermore, the weight of an individual molecule, and hence the weight of one mole of that substance, varies with its elemental composition. Furthermore, some of the ionic compounds were hydrates, ionic compounds that contain a (usually unspecified) amount of H2O molecules (water weight).

I just used some bottled water that I liked it's taste. Why would you want to achieve a specific molarity? What would change?


Originally Posted by jpr95

What you used is known as Hopped Malt Extract, something many entry-level homebrewers use their first few times.

The brewing I do is a combination of grains and Liquid Malt Extract, then hop pellets added at certain points in the boil. The next step for me is to go to all-grain brewing, which would eliminate the cans of LME, but would also require some more equipment to sparge the grains.

As for what kinds of beer I like, well, I like beer. I tend for darker or hoppier beers, but I'll drink many different styles. I generally don't care for sweet or too fruity.

Yep, Cooper's brand to be exact.

That's what I also want to do. But I cant find any bulk 2-row malt to buy from around here so I would probably have to order on-line. There is this shop in Belgium that sells pretty much everything, from ingredients to equipment. Not just for beer but for wine and cheese too:

http://www.brouwland.com/en/

Hmmm, hop pellets. I was thinking of using whole ones according to the recipe. Grinding the grains should not be such a big problem. I saw a video once where they ground the grains using a DIY grader that was powered by a handheld drill. But you could probably just grind them in a standard mixer or something.

A problem that I have is with carbonation. In order to make the beer fizzy, I add half a teaspoon of sugar into each bottle before closing them. Then some more fermentation takes place but without a valve (the bottles are allready sealed) the gas gets trapped in the beer and makes it fizzy. At one week after sealing the bottles the beer is a bit -too- fizzy but after a month it's fine and the foam is more compacted.

But since I am using sugar and not finely ground malt (the white dust one) I think that might damage the taste as sugar does not ferment completely. Maybe I will use some caramelized sugar drops next time but I think that finely ground malt is probably best. But I kinda doubt that it has enough sugars to produce alot of gas in the beer. I am not planning to use a keg carbonator so... Plus the second fermentation seems kinda cool...

Another problem is pasteurizing. Apparently this home-brews only last for a few months... Maybe a bit more if you add a bit of extra hops which are natural preservatives like lemon juice etc. But since the most difficult part is waiting for the beer to brew it makes sense to make lots of it in one go... But then if do it might go bad...

How long can you store home - brews safely? You use alot of hops, lemon juice, other preservatives or pasteurize it?
 
Different styles of beer need different mineral profiles in the water used, but many beers will do fine with any clean, safe water--you just won't win any contests with it.

As for "grinding" grain, that's not really what you want to do. The grains need to just be cracked so that tannins from the husks don't leach into the wort (tannins will cause bad flavors), and so the endosperm is crushed for good conversion efficiency.

I know many homebrewers keep beer around for quite some time. I have never managed that feat--it always gets consumed in fairly short order. However, many styles get much better with age--some say a porter only starts to get really good after 6 months or more. If you're using proper sanitizing techniques, you shouldn't have any problems with spoilage. The beer is boiled first, any equipment and bottles you use should be sanitized and you're good to go. Sunlight and fluorescent light are very bad for beers, hence the dark bottles in which many are sold. Keep yours in a cool, dark place and they'll have better flavor for longer--they won't go "skunky" as we call it on this side of the pond.

The hop pellets are because I use brewing kits that come with the LME, some grains, a Mylar bag of compressed hop pellets, the yeast and bottle caps (which I don't use any more because I have a dual-tap kegerator setup). Sadly, I don't get as much practice brewing as I'd like due to time constraints, and the fact that a local brewery will fill my 5 gallon kegs for $55 or $65, depending on the beer. A 5 gallon batch from a kit costs about $30-$40, but will take about 4-5 hours of labor by the time it's done.
 
Originally Posted by jpr95
If you're using proper sanitizing techniques, you shouldn't have any problems with spoilage.

The hop pellets are because I use brewing kits that come with the LME, some grains, a Mylar bag of compressed hop pellets, the yeast and bottle caps (which I don't use any more because I have a dual-tap kegerator setup). Sadly, I don't get as much practice brewing as I'd like due to time constraints, and the fact that a local brewery will fill my 5 gallon kegs for $55 or $65, depending on the beer. A 5 gallon batch from a kit costs about $30-$40, but will take about 4-5 hours of labor by the time it's done.

Well, the wort is boiled and the demi-john I am using for fermention is also cleaned with boiling water prior to brewing. I am also washing the bottles in the "hot" setting in the washing machine. Then I add the cold water in the demijohn so it will cool the wort once added and top it up with the wort. Then I add the yeast and seal with the air-lock. I dont boil the bottled water.

I also didnt have any problems with spoiled beer because it was gone pretty fast. Might try to keep a bottle for long but I kinda doubt that this will happen lol.
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Originally Posted by jpr95
and the fact that a local brewery will fill my 5 gallon kegs for $55 or $65, depending on the beer.

That's a bit expensive for non-bottled beer... It's something like 1 euro per half litre. Here you can buy a descent brew for about 60cent. In Belgium were I went once their 50cent bottles are some triple ales or some Ok dark brews but they do have a bit of an intense "chocolate" flavour which kinda felt a bit too much. But the the lager- like beers and the wheat beers where very good for that price.

One of my favorites are wheat beer. These cost around 1.7 euro per bottle around here for local and about 2+ euro imported... So it might make sense if I can brew a few 20 bottle crates...

Not too many micro-breweries around here... There are some but you can only find their stuff in super markets. There are some pubs though that would fill a keg or something for you for discounted prices compared to consuming there, but still quite pricey. Not their own brews, they just fill the containers from their kegs.
 
Yeah, you should really use a sanitizing solution on any surface that will come in contact with the unfermented wort--fermenter, carboy, spoons, bottles, everything. There are "no-rinse" sanitizers available. Lots of info online.