Want to know more about the bicycles

Discussion in 'Australia and New Zealand' started by Zhang Li Yun, Aug 14, 2003.

  1. > > > >
    > > > > 12 Patches!?!?!?!
    > > > >
    > > > > I have had about 5 punctures in the last 8 years, and have ridden a

    hell
    > > of
    > > > > a lot in that time. What sort of bike was it and what the hell were

    you
    > > > > doing to the poor thing????
    > > > > ---
    > > > > DFM
    > > >
    > > > What kind of tyres do you run that never have flats?

    > >
    > > So even though in the previous statement I said I'd had about 5

    punctures in
    > > 8 years, you still read it as me saying I 'never have flats'?
    > >
    > > How could I possibly have stated that any more clearly????
    > > ---
    > > DFM

    >
    > Typo, missed the word "almost".. uh dont bother, I dont want to know...


    Well, I will try to answer anyway.

    For mountain bikes, you can get puncture resistant tyres. These are handy in
    places like Adelaide, where 3-corner jacks are lethal. Another technique I
    have seen which works for a variety of situations is to line the tyre with
    another tube. This provides a rather effective barrier.

    In Melbourne at the moment, and I have employed neither of these methods
    (coz I have access to free tubes), and have had one flat in about six
    months. This was when I ran over some broken glass in a bike lane. I have
    noticed that there is a lot of broken glass in the bike lanes of Melbourne
    for some reason. Dodging is required.
    ---
    DFM
     


  2. gaza

    gaza Guest

    I've been lurking around this newsgroup for a week or so trying to pick up
    some info on an upcoming bike purchase and being on the wrong side of 40, I
    have to ask......whatever happened to the old vulcanised rubber patches I
    used as a kid. Are they obsolete/useless/unavailable?????
    I remember they always seemed to work well, but you did need to carry a box
    of matches I think.
     
  3. gaza <[email protected]> wrote:
    : I've been lurking around this newsgroup for a week or so trying to pick up
    : some info on an upcoming bike purchase and being on the wrong side of 40, I
    : have to ask......whatever happened to the old vulcanised rubber patches I
    : used as a kid. Are they obsolete/useless/unavailable?????
    : I remember they always seemed to work well, but you did need to carry a box
    : of matches I think.

    In modern times, all that is required is a patch, some method of
    cleaning/roughing the area, and some glue. When properly applied, a patch
    can be a thing of beauty. My mate once had a MTB tube with 30 patches on
    it before he retired (scuse the pun) it. It would have passed for a
    Picasso in the right context.

    I remember the vulcanizing patches. They were bulky, needed a big brass
    clamp and were no better than the glue ones we have now. Spectacular just
    the same and great for pulling a crowd when lit. You could probably find
    a kit in an antique market. Lots of luck.

    Cheerz,
    Lynzz
     
  4. Jose Rizal

    Jose Rizal Guest

    Tim Jones:

    >
    > "Jose Rizal" <[email protected]_._> wrote in message
    > news:[email protected]


    > > I've been using Park Tools' glueless patches for years, and the tubes
    > > that I've repaired with these have stayed leak-free. Prepared properly,
    > > glueless patches can be as good as messy old-fashioned glue and patch.
    > >
    > > The trick is in getting the tube surface around the hole clean. Rubbing
    > > alcohol or propanol does this well.

    >
    > Do you carry this in your bike kit then? Or wait until home to do a repair?


    Since the little box with glueless patches and sandpaper weighs very
    little and occupies a tiny volume, I carry one in my saddlebag. Alcohol
    swabs that come in little packets double as part of a first aid kit, so
    those aren't hard to carry as well. However, I carry a spare tube, so
    the patches really only serve to be useful if a second blowout happens,
    or if the tube on the other tyre gets punctured. I prefer to repair
    holes in tubes at home.

    > Do they not work when the hole is on a seam?


    I've patched holes in seams with the Park patches, and still am using
    those tubes a couple of years later. If the seam has a substantial
    amount of rubber sticking out, carefully cutting this with a pair of
    scissors works, otherwise careful sanding of the seam may be enough.
    You must avoid applying the patch on a seam which then has an overlap at
    the seam, ie the seam must be as flat as you can make it.
     
  5. Tim Jones

    Tim Jones Guest

    "Jose Rizal" <[email protected]_._> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]
    > Tim Jones:
    >
    > >
    > > "Jose Rizal" <[email protected]_._> wrote in message
    > > news:[email protected]

    >
    > > > I've been using Park Tools' glueless patches for years, and the tubes
    > > > that I've repaired with these have stayed leak-free. Prepared

    properly,
    > > > glueless patches can be as good as messy old-fashioned glue and patch.
    > > >
    > > > The trick is in getting the tube surface around the hole clean.

    Rubbing
    > > > alcohol or propanol does this well.

    > >
    > > Do you carry this in your bike kit then? Or wait until home to do a

    repair?
    >
    > Since the little box with glueless patches and sandpaper weighs very
    > little and occupies a tiny volume, I carry one in my saddlebag. Alcohol
    > swabs that come in little packets double as part of a first aid kit, so
    > those aren't hard to carry as well. However, I carry a spare tube, so
    > the patches really only serve to be useful if a second blowout happens,
    > or if the tube on the other tyre gets punctured. I prefer to repair
    > holes in tubes at home.
    >
    > > Do they not work when the hole is on a seam?

    >
    > I've patched holes in seams with the Park patches, and still am using
    > those tubes a couple of years later. If the seam has a substantial
    > amount of rubber sticking out, carefully cutting this with a pair of
    > scissors works, otherwise careful sanding of the seam may be enough.
    > You must avoid applying the patch on a seam which then has an overlap at
    > the seam, ie the seam must be as flat as you can make it.
    >


    Thanks Jose,

    I might go and get some alcohol swabs - sounds like a good idea for any type
    of patches.

    Tim
     
  6. Tim Jones <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]
    >
    > "Deep Flayed Mares" <[email protected]> wrote in
    > message news:[email protected]
    >
    > <...>
    >
    > > In Melbourne at the moment, and I have employed neither of these methods
    > > (coz I have access to free tubes), and have had one flat in about six
    > > months. This was when I ran over some broken glass in a bike lane. I

    have
    > > noticed that there is a lot of broken glass in the bike lanes of

    Melbourne
    > > for some reason. Dodging is required.
    > > ---
    > > DFM
    > >

    >
    > I think this is because the banks of the Yarra are favourite drinking

    spots
    > for underage partiers. And when they get pissed, they then have no

    problems
    > throwing the empties on whatever hard surface "for fun".
    >
    > The same sort of arseholes who stole my letter box Friday night (as well

    as
    > a bunch of others around the area).
    >
    > On that topic, someone told me what their father did when faced with

    regular
    > removal of letter boxes: hammer a few 4 inch nails through the box so they
    > stick out the bottom. To get the box out, they inevitably kick or punch up
    > from beneath in dark circumstances. A couple of week later, he found some
    > left over giblets on the bottom of his box.


    I don't think the law would approve of that, but I might!
    ---
    DFM
     
  7. Andrew Swan

    Andrew Swan Guest

    Lindsay Rowlands wrote:
    <snip>
    > can be a thing of beauty. My mate once had a MTB tube with 30 patches on
    > it before he retired (scuse the pun) it. It would have passed for a
    > Picasso in the right context.
    >
    > Cheerz,
    > Lynzz


    30 patches!!!???? What did this thing weigh?

    &roo
     
  8. Gary K

    Gary K Guest

    Lindsay Rowlands <[email protected]> wrote:

    > gaza <[email protected]> wrote:
    > : I've been lurking around this newsgroup for a week or so trying to pick up
    > : some info on an upcoming bike purchase and being on the wrong side of 40, I
    > : have to ask......whatever happened to the old vulcanised rubber patches I
    > : used as a kid. Are they obsolete/useless/unavailable?????
    > : I remember they always seemed to work well, but you did need to carry a box
    > : of matches I think.
    >
    > In modern times, all that is required is a patch, some method of
    > cleaning/roughing the area, and some glue. When properly applied, a patch
    > can be a thing of beauty. My mate once had a MTB tube with 30 patches on
    > it before he retired (scuse the pun) it. It would have passed for a
    > Picasso in the right context.
    >
    > I remember the vulcanizing patches. They were bulky, needed a big brass
    > clamp and were no better than the glue ones we have now. Spectacular just
    > the same and great for pulling a crowd when lit. You could probably find
    > a kit in an antique market. Lots of luck.


    I forgot about that bloody clamp.. No wonder those things have
    dissappeared out of sight.
     
  9. I'm going to Canberra on Saturday. I'll see if they have any in the
    fireworks shops!

    --
    Cheers
    LB

    No matter how fast I ride, my posts always catch up with me.
     
  10. DRS

    DRS Guest

    Andrew Swan <[email protected]> wrote in message
    [email protected]
    > DRS wrote:
    >> Does this group have an FAQ?

    >
    > Great idea. I don't know, but here's a good one from another bike NG:
    >
    > http://draco.acs.uci.edu/rbfaq/FAQ/index.html


    Wow! It's even got it's own Ode to a Usenet Kook.

    aus.bicycle does need something similar though.

    --

    A: Top-posters.
    Q: What is the most annoying thing on Usenet?
     
  11. John Staines

    John Staines Guest

    Jose

    I replied to Luthers post because I'm entitled to my opinion and wanted
    to disagree with what he was refering to. Whether Luther agrees with me
    is upto him as he obviously has his own opinion whether I think it's
    wrong is besides the point.

    You on the other hand think that your opinion, thoughts, drivel or
    whatever else you choose to call them are the be all and end all and if
    the person, heaven forbid, should disagree with you then you abuse and
    ridicule them.

    So get your head out of your arse cos I hate to break your self
    delusional imagine of yourself but your a cunt.

    If you want to discuss this further then I suggest you email in private
    or we could meet up face to face and I'll show you what "quaint" is all
    about?????

    You spinless fucker

    I apologise to the list as I would prefer to respond to Jose in private
    but am unable to do so



    Jose Rizal wrote:
    >
    > John Staines:
    >
    > > Sorry, Luther, but I've never
    > > heard so much tosh in all my life! That goes for having to read Jose's
    > > posts an all.

    >
    > Come now John, you've been shown to be a himbo more suited to giggling
    > at gossip and inanities than discussing issues of substance, whether
    > these be bike related or not. Why don't you just accept this and move
    > on with your quaint little life?
    >
    > > I don't understand why you feel the need to use someones sexual
    > > preference to make your point. Whether it be in jest or not.

    >
    > Ah, so now you argue that someone's sexual preference is in fact
    > irrelevant to their behaviour in other areas.
    >
    > Why, if that wasn't just my point about mentioning someone's ethnicity
    > in relation to their riding behaviour... and all that the power of your
    > intellect can come up for that in retort was the devastating phrase "you
    > fucking moron"....
    >
    > Stick to giggles and gossip, my "tolerant friend".
     
  12. Someone needs a hug!
    ---
    DFM

    John Staines <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]
    > Jose
    >
    > I replied to Luthers post because I'm entitled to my opinion and wanted
    > to disagree with what he was refering to. Whether Luther agrees with me
    > is upto him as he obviously has his own opinion whether I think it's
    > wrong is besides the point.
    >
    > You on the other hand think that your opinion, thoughts, drivel or
    > whatever else you choose to call them are the be all and end all and if
    > the person, heaven forbid, should disagree with you then you abuse and
    > ridicule them.
    >
    > So get your head out of your arse cos I hate to break your self
    > delusional imagine of yourself but your a cunt.
    >
    > If you want to discuss this further then I suggest you email in private
    > or we could meet up face to face and I'll show you what "quaint" is all
    > about?????
    >
    > You spinless fucker
    >
    > I apologise to the list as I would prefer to respond to Jose in private
    > but am unable to do so
    >
    >
    >
    > Jose Rizal wrote:
    > >
    > > John Staines:
    > >
    > > > Sorry, Luther, but I've never
    > > > heard so much tosh in all my life! That goes for having to read Jose's
    > > > posts an all.

    > >
    > > Come now John, you've been shown to be a himbo more suited to giggling
    > > at gossip and inanities than discussing issues of substance, whether
    > > these be bike related or not. Why don't you just accept this and move
    > > on with your quaint little life?
    > >
    > > > I don't understand why you feel the need to use someones sexual
    > > > preference to make your point. Whether it be in jest or not.

    > >
    > > Ah, so now you argue that someone's sexual preference is in fact
    > > irrelevant to their behaviour in other areas.
    > >
    > > Why, if that wasn't just my point about mentioning someone's ethnicity
    > > in relation to their riding behaviour... and all that the power of your
    > > intellect can come up for that in retort was the devastating phrase "you
    > > fucking moron"....
    > >
    > > Stick to giggles and gossip, my "tolerant friend".
     
  13. John Staines

    John Staines Guest

    hehe you offering Deep Flayed Mares? :eek:)

    Mondays....I'm like a bear with a sore head :eek:)

    Deep Flayed Mares wrote:
    >
    > Someone needs a hug!
    > ---
    > DFM
    >
    > John Staines <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > news:[email protected]
    > > Jose
    > >
    > > I replied to Luthers post because I'm entitled to my opinion and wanted
    > > to disagree with what he was refering to. Whether Luther agrees with me
    > > is upto him as he obviously has his own opinion whether I think it's
    > > wrong is besides the point.
    > >
    > > You on the other hand think that your opinion, thoughts, drivel or
    > > whatever else you choose to call them are the be all and end all and if
    > > the person, heaven forbid, should disagree with you then you abuse and
    > > ridicule them.
    > >
    > > So get your head out of your arse cos I hate to break your self
    > > delusional imagine of yourself but your a cunt.
    > >
    > > If you want to discuss this further then I suggest you email in private
    > > or we could meet up face to face and I'll show you what "quaint" is all
    > > about?????
    > >
    > > You spinless fucker
    > >
    > > I apologise to the list as I would prefer to respond to Jose in private
    > > but am unable to do so
    > >
    > >
    > >
    > > Jose Rizal wrote:
    > > >
    > > > John Staines:
    > > >
    > > > > Sorry, Luther, but I've never
    > > > > heard so much tosh in all my life! That goes for having to read Jose's
    > > > > posts an all.
    > > >
    > > > Come now John, you've been shown to be a himbo more suited to giggling
    > > > at gossip and inanities than discussing issues of substance, whether
    > > > these be bike related or not. Why don't you just accept this and move
    > > > on with your quaint little life?
    > > >
    > > > > I don't understand why you feel the need to use someones sexual
    > > > > preference to make your point. Whether it be in jest or not.
    > > >
    > > > Ah, so now you argue that someone's sexual preference is in fact
    > > > irrelevant to their behaviour in other areas.
    > > >
    > > > Why, if that wasn't just my point about mentioning someone's ethnicity
    > > > in relation to their riding behaviour... and all that the power of your
    > > > intellect can come up for that in retort was the devastating phrase "you
    > > > fucking moron"....
    > > >
    > > > Stick to giggles and gossip, my "tolerant friend".
     
  14. Jose Rizal

    Jose Rizal Guest

    John Staines:

    > Jose
    >
    > I replied to Luthers


    That's "Luther's".

    > post because I'm entitled to my opinion and wanted
    > to disagree with what he was refering to.


    That's "referring".

    > You on the other hand think that your opinion, thoughts, drivel or
    > whatever else you choose to call them are the be all and end all and if
    > the person, heaven forbid, should disagree with you then you abuse and
    > ridicule them.


    Excellent. Now having written that, let's now see what you follow it up
    with:

    > So get your head out of your arse cos


    That's "because"

    > I hate to break your self
    > delusional imagine


    That's "image".

    > of yourself but your a cunt.


    That's "you're".

    Pretty contradictory to what you're preaching, isn't it? I wouldn't be
    surprised though if it all goes over your head.

    > If you want to discuss this further then I suggest you email in private
    > or we could meet up face to face and I'll show you what "quaint" is all
    > about?????


    No, I don't want a date with you, and I prefer that you keep your
    physical endowments out of sight, if you please. I'm not into quaint
    little idiots who have no grasp of concepts slightly more complex than
    the simplistic water-cooler banter about the previous day's telly. You
    might have better luck with the singles ads.

    > You spinless fucker


    That's "spineless".

    > I apologise to the list as I would prefer to respond to Jose in private
    > but am unable to do so


    Why John, am I turning you on?

    As expected, no comments on the topic raised, but instead another
    tiresome, barely literate whine full of trailer trash name-calling and
    comical foot-stomping.

    If you can't stand any insults, I suggest you stop dishing them out, as
    you can see form your post below. Like I wrote before, stick to
    harmless giggling at gossip, Johnny.

    >
    > Jose Rizal wrote:
    > >
    > > John Staines:
    > >
    > > > Sorry, Luther, but I've never
    > > > heard so much tosh in all my life! That goes for having to read Jose's
    > > > posts an all.

    > >
    > > Come now John, you've been shown to be a himbo more suited to giggling
    > > at gossip and inanities than discussing issues of substance, whether
    > > these be bike related or not. Why don't you just accept this and move
    > > on with your quaint little life?
    > >
    > > > I don't understand why you feel the need to use someones sexual
    > > > preference to make your point. Whether it be in jest or not.

    > >
    > > Ah, so now you argue that someone's sexual preference is in fact
    > > irrelevant to their behaviour in other areas.
    > >
    > > Why, if that wasn't just my point about mentioning someone's ethnicity
    > > in relation to their riding behaviour... and all that the power of your
    > > intellect can come up for that in retort was the devastating phrase "you
    > > fucking moron"....
    > >
    > > Stick to giggles and gossip, my "tolerant friend".
     
  15. Jose Rizal

    Jose Rizal Guest

    John Staines:

    > Nice to see your still reading my posts.


    Yes, I watch out for them at the same time I browse the funny pages
    because fictional humour is great, but your real-life posts are even
    funnier.

    >
    > Jose Rizal wrote:
    > >
    > > John Staines:
    > >
    > > > Sorry, Luther, but I've never
    > > > heard so much tosh in all my life! That goes for having to read Jose's
    > > > posts an all.

    > >
    > > Come now John, you've been shown to be a himbo more suited to giggling
    > > at gossip and inanities than discussing issues of substance, whether
    > > these be bike related or not. Why don't you just accept this and move
    > > on with your quaint little life?
    > >
    > > > I don't understand why you feel the need to use someones sexual
    > > > preference to make your point. Whether it be in jest or not.

    > >
    > > Ah, so now you argue that someone's sexual preference is in fact
    > > irrelevant to their behaviour in other areas.
    > >
    > > Why, if that wasn't just my point about mentioning someone's ethnicity
    > > in relation to their riding behaviour... and all that the power of your
    > > intellect can come up for that in retort was the devastating phrase "you
    > > fucking moron"....
    > >
    > > Stick to giggles and gossip, my "tolerant friend".
     
  16. >
    > As expected, no comments on the topic raised, but instead another
    > tiresome, barely literate whine full of trailer trash name-calling and
    > comical foot-stomping.


    Any guesses as to the nationality of this guy?
    ---
    DFM
     
  17. John Staines

    John Staines Guest

    Deffo a Springer/Ricki watcher.

    But are you sure it's a guy?

    Deep Flayed Mares wrote:
    >
    > >
    > > As expected, no comments on the topic raised, but instead another
    > > tiresome, barely literate whine full of trailer trash name-calling and
    > > comical foot-stomping.

    >
    > Any guesses as to the nationality of this guy?
    > ---
    > DFM
     
  18. Jose Rizal

    Jose Rizal Guest

    John Staines:

    > Deffo a Springer/Ricki watcher.


    Yes, just keep giggling at gossip...

    > But are you sure it's a guy?


    Well, one thing I'm sure of: The University will be interested to know
    how you use its resources to post your trash. You really are an
    incurable idiot for not being aware of the consequences of your little
    personal vendettas on a public forum such as this.

    It's amazing how you tout yourself as a University staff member, use a
    University e-mail account, and spout the kind of illiterate, uneducated
    rubbish that you do. It's a poor reflection on the University's
    judgement, and one which they might want to correct.

    Keep up the posts: the dirt which will bury you just keep piling higher.

    > Deep Flayed Mares wrote:
    > >
    > > >
    > > > As expected, no comments on the topic raised, but instead another
    > > > tiresome, barely literate whine full of trailer trash name-calling and
    > > > comical foot-stomping.

    > >
    > > Any guesses as to the nationality of this guy?
    > > ---
    > > DFM
     
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