On May 30, 4:52 pm, "Paul G." <
[email protected]> wrote:
> On May 30, 4:30 pm, MagillaGorilla <[email protected]> wrote:
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> >PaulG. wrote:
> > > On May 29, 5:23 pm, Howard Kveck <[email protected]> wrote:
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> > >>In article <[email protected]>, Earl <[email protected]>
> > >>wrote:
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> > >>>ST wrote:
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> > >>>>http://milind.data360.org/dsg.aspx?Data_Set_Group_Id=1900
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> > >>>>1-29-2008
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> > >>>> 7,500 Clinton Years
> > >>>> 3,824 War on Terror
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> > >>>You looked at that chart and found it worthy of posting? Guess that
> > >>>would explain our current state.
>
> > >>>Total active military deaths from 1981-1988
> > >>>(Reagan) 17201 (avg 2150 per year). 58 from hostile action.
> > >>>That's 0.33%.
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> > >>>Total active military deaths from 1989-1992
> > >>>(Bush, Sr.) 6223 (avg 1555 per year). 170 from hostile action.
> > >>>That's 2.73%.
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> > >>>Total active military deaths from 1993-2000
> > >>>(Clinton) 7500 (avg 938 per year). 2 from hostile action.
> > >>>That's a 0.01%.
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> > >>>Total active military deaths from 2001-2004
> > >>>(Bush, Jr.) 5187 (avg 1296 per year). 1102 from hostile action.
> > >>>That's a 21.24%.
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> > >>>Or.....
> > >>>http://www.snopes.com/politics/military/deaths.asp
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> > >> Just thinking about this a bit more: I think that we should also include the
> > >>contractors (aka mercenaries) who've died in Iraq, as well as the regular civilian
> > >>contractors. Also the 2,974 casualties on 9-11. And why not include the Afghani and
> > >>Iraqi civilian deaths?
>
> > >> Every time someone like SD Stevie tries to point out how much worsethings were
> > >>under the Clinton admin., it seems to backfire. Fancy that.
>
> > > Ah, the Clinton years... I remember them fondly. $1.35/gal for gas,
> > > oral sex, unprecedented prosperity, balanced budgets, and- did I
> > > mention the oral sex? Those were the good old days. I say bring 'em
> > > back. This whole "death and destruction" Bush shtick is depressing.
> > > -Paul
>
> > So you think Clinton was reponsible for gas prices being $1.35? You're
> > one of those people who thinks whoever was president is responsible for
> > EVERYTHING that happened during their tenure.
>
> > Try thinking about that.
>
> > Magilla
>
> That was supposed to be humorous, but yes, the president CAN affect
> gas prices. Not so much to the downside, absolutely to the upside.
> And that's what we've seen. Here's a graph of the price of oil:http://www.wtrg.com/oil_graphs/oilprice1947.gif
>
> Note that the price of oil ALWAYS shoots up when someone starts a war
> in the mideast, because it threatens the supply side. Note that the
> price of oil shot up as soon as Bush started talking about invading
> Iraq.
Here's a fresh example- one guy in Israel suggests that war with Iran
is "unavoidable" and oil prices soar. The same thing happened when
the Bush admin started hyping the "threat" from Iraq. So absolutely
yes, Bush is responsible for a big chunk of these record oil prices.
-Paul
Oil Prices Take a Nerve-Rattling Jump Past $138
The rise in oil prices turned into a stampede on Friday with futures
jumping a staggering $11 a barrel to set a record above $138 a barrel.
The unprecedented surge came as the dollar fell sharply against the
euro and a senior Israeli politician once again raised the possibility
of an attack against Iran.
Geopolitical tensions in the Middle East regained center stage after
Israel’s transportation minister and a deputy prime minister, Shaul
Mofaz, said Friday that an attack on Iran’s nuclear sites looked
“unavoidable” if Iran did not abandon its nuclear program.
