waterford R-33

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  1. lennon1218

    lennon1218 New Member

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    any opinions on this bike??
     
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  2. RC2

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    There's a whole lotta nice steel bikes out there, this would be one of them. So you now have the valuable opinion of a complete stranger, you gonna plop down a couple grand on a frame?
     
  3. lennon1218

    lennon1218 New Member

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    no smartass since this is a "cycling forum " I was asking opinions on this particular bike . I am well aware of the abundance of steel frames out there .This is not your run of the mill 853 frame.
     
  4. RC2

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    Wasn't trying to be a smart ass, was saying that in my opinion this is one of the very nice steel frames out there. If I had 2k to spend on a frame, this might get some consideration. But so would steelman, landshark, etc, etc. Waterford makes frames to your specs, even for an R33 I doubt you'd get much specific impresions from one who has ridden the bike (I haven't), but can tell you 853 frames that I have ridden are pretty consistently strong, light, and lively, and i think 853 is a good choice w/r/t durability (deda zero, columbus niobium, ultrafoco may be somewhat less durable, although I haven't researched the newest alloys, that's word of mouth).

    I guess my point that came off as smart ass what that, in high-end 853 frames, most of the difference is aesthics, personal prefrence. If I was spending 2k for that kinda frame I would base the decision 100%, wholly, on how it made me feel. For 2k, who cares what others think.
     
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    853 is 'run of the mill'. And, I thought the r-33 was True Temper s3 tubing?
     
  6. lennon1218

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    I was aware it was True Temper s3. My writings don't always come out like they should.
     
  7. RC2

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    Ahh, tubing makes this bike close to ~3 lb for a 56, yes? Cool stuff. But it still comes down to personal preference.
     
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    I find that no crack before 10am helps.
     
  9. lennon1218

    lennon1218 New Member

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    i'm a meth man myself
     
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    I think of a Waterford as a beautifully-lugged touring frame. To me, if your going to get a TIG-welded race frame made out of thinwall True Temper S3, there are lots of other framebuilders and choices out there.

    When it comes to high-end custom frames, it all depends on what you value.
     
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