Watership Down 15th Jan



"MartinM" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>
> John B wrote:
>> Mike K Smith wrote:
>>
>> > John B wrote On 12/08/05 17:16,:
>> >
>> > > Popham is indeed a nice stop - its just up the road from me -
>> > > Whitchurch
>> > > is even closer ;-)
>> > > We often trundle out for a mug of tea and cake.
>> > > It is an airfield with a small and friendly cafe which has the
>> > > control
>> > > 'tower' (a sectioned off desk and some dials) just inside the
>> > > doorway.
>> > >
>> > > There are *very* few restrictions and you can wander around the
>> > > aircraft
>> > > at leisure. A lot of small planes and microlights use it.
>> > >
>> > > Its one of Hampshire's several 'hidden' tea stops, but it seems the
>> > > audaxers have now found it.
>> >
>> > Sounds like a real gem. We pass fairly close to it sometimes, but I've
>> > never thought of popping in for a cuppa. What are their opening hours?
>> > I
>> > presume the answer is more or less 'during daylight'.

>>
>> From early morning 'til teatime
>> http://www.popham-airfield.co.uk/Index.htm
>>
>> Its the home of the Spitfire Club - an aircraft I'm presently designing a
>> book to :)
>>
>> The breakfasts are excellent and the atmosphere really laid back, not at
>> all
>> what you would expect from a private airfield.
>>
>> To whet your appetite:
>> http://www.popham-airfield.co.uk/Cafeteria.htm
>>
>> John B

>
> I'm now doing the RR the week before so should be on for this; would be
> nice to meet up with some other urc'ers even if not doing the 115k, I
> would estimate we'll be there sometime between 1100-1230. I'm pretty
> sure Pam still accepts entries on the line.
>


You should be able to do 72 miles in about two and a half hours.

Alan
 
On Sat, 07 Jan 2006 19:29:32 GMT, "Alan Holmes"
<[email protected]> wrote:

>
>"MartinM" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>> I'm now doing the RR the week before so should be on for this; would be
>> nice to meet up with some other urc'ers even if not doing the 115k, I
>> would estimate we'll be there sometime between 1100-1230. I'm pretty
>> sure Pam still accepts entries on the line.
>>

>
>You should be able to do 72 miles in about two and a half hours.



Bollocks (tm). 72 miles in two and a half hours is 28.8 mph. Martin
might be fast but he's no Sean Yates. And as it happens Sean Yates
posted 22.30 for a 10 mile time trial on New Years Day. That's 26.7mph
of ball busting, eyes out, heart bursting effort.

Anyway AUK rules limit you to a maximum speed of 30 kph.


Tim
 
Tim Hall wrote:
> On Sat, 07 Jan 2006 19:29:32 GMT, "Alan Holmes"
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >
> >"MartinM" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> >news:[email protected]...
> >>

>
> >> I'm now doing the RR the week before so should be on for this; would be
> >> nice to meet up with some other urc'ers even if not doing the 115k, I
> >> would estimate we'll be there sometime between 1100-1230. I'm pretty
> >> sure Pam still accepts entries on the line.
> >>

> >
> >You should be able to do 72 miles in about two and a half hours.

>
>
> Bollocks (tm). 72 miles in two and a half hours is 28.8 mph. Martin
> might be fast but he's no Sean Yates.


well actually I'm neither; I was referring to the peleton's likely ETA
at Popham if anyone wishes to join us.
 
Tim Hall wrote:
> On Sat, 07 Jan 2006 19:29:32 GMT, "Alan Holmes"
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >
> >"MartinM" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> >news:[email protected]...
> >>

>
> >> I'm now doing the RR the week before so should be on for this; would be
> >> nice to meet up with some other urc'ers even if not doing the 115k, I
> >> would estimate we'll be there sometime between 1100-1230. I'm pretty
> >> sure Pam still accepts entries on the line.
> >>

> >
> >You should be able to do 72 miles in about two and a half hours.

>
>
> Bollocks (tm). 72 miles in two and a half hours is 28.8 mph. Martin
> might be fast but he's no Sean Yates.


well I'm neither ATM (see Poor Student thread)
I was referring to the peleton's likely ETA at Popham
 
in message <[email protected]>, Tim Hall
('[email protected]') wrote:

> On Sat, 07 Jan 2006 19:29:32 GMT, "Alan Holmes"
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>You should be able to do 72 miles in about two and a half hours.

>
> Bollocks (tm). 72 miles in two and a half hours is 28.8 mph.


....which is faster than the Tour de France peloton averages.

--
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;; For in much wisdom is much grief; and he that increaseth
;; knowledge increaseth sorrow.." - Ecclesiastes 1:18
 
Simon Brooke wrote:

> in message <[email protected]>, Tim Hall
> ('[email protected]') wrote:
>
>
>>On Sat, 07 Jan 2006 19:29:32 GMT, "Alan Holmes"
>><[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>You should be able to do 72 miles in about two and a half hours.

>>
>>Bollocks (tm). 72 miles in two and a half hours is 28.8 mph.

>
>
> ...which is faster than the Tour de France peloton averages.
>


Alan's just looking for an excuse to tell us (again) about his
record-breaking feats. Might as well let him get it over with, then
he'll go away again.

<http://groups.google.com/group/uk.transport/msg/14b961fcc2e5e23f?dmode=source>

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In article <[email protected]>,
MartinM ([email protected]) wrote:
>
> John B wrote:
> > Mike K Smith wrote:
> >
> > > John B wrote On 12/08/05 17:16,:
> > >
> > > > Popham is indeed a nice stop - its just up the road from me - Whitchurch
> > > > is even closer ;-)
> > > > We often trundle out for a mug of tea and cake.
> > > > It is an airfield with a small and friendly cafe which has the control
> > > > 'tower' (a sectioned off desk and some dials) just inside the doorway.
> > > >
> > > > There are *very* few restrictions and you can wander around the aircraft
> > > > at leisure. A lot of small planes and microlights use it.
> > > >
> > > > Its one of Hampshire's several 'hidden' tea stops, but it seems the
> > > > audaxers have now found it.
> > >
> > > Sounds like a real gem. We pass fairly close to it sometimes, but I've
> > > never thought of popping in for a cuppa. What are their opening hours? I
> > > presume the answer is more or less 'during daylight'.

> >
> > From early morning 'til teatime
> > http://www.popham-airfield.co.uk/Index.htm
> >
> > Its the home of the Spitfire Club - an aircraft I'm presently designing a
> > book to :)
> >
> > The breakfasts are excellent and the atmosphere really laid back, not at all
> > what you would expect from a private airfield.
> >
> > To whet your appetite:
> > http://www.popham-airfield.co.uk/Cafeteria.htm
> >
> > John B

>
> I'm now doing the RR the week before so should be on for this; would be
> nice to meet up with some other urc'ers even if not doing the 115k, I
> would estimate we'll be there sometime between 1100-1230. I'm pretty
> sure Pam still accepts entries on the line.


My entry is in. But then you knew that, or at least Martin did. Anyone
else doing the Watership Down next Sunday?

--
Dave Larrington - <http://www.legslarry.beerdrinkers.co.uk/>
We had that Maurits C. Escher in to do some building work once. I
haven't been able to leave the house since.
 
"Tim Hall" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> On Sat, 07 Jan 2006 19:29:32 GMT, "Alan Holmes"
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>
>>"MartinM" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>news:[email protected]...
>>>

>
>>> I'm now doing the RR the week before so should be on for this; would be
>>> nice to meet up with some other urc'ers even if not doing the 115k, I
>>> would estimate we'll be there sometime between 1100-1230. I'm pretty
>>> sure Pam still accepts entries on the line.
>>>

>>
>>You should be able to do 72 miles in about two and a half hours.

>
>
> Bollocks (tm). 72 miles in two and a half hours is 28.8 mph. Martin
> might be fast but he's no Sean Yates. And as it happens Sean Yates
> posted 22.30 for a 10 mile time trial on New Years Day. That's 26.7mph
> of ball busting, eyes out, heart bursting effort.


One day, many years ago, I was cycling home from work, taking my time, not
in a hurry, when a car drew up behind me and stayed there for a while, I
began to get a little angry, but the car then drew alongside me, the driver
shouted to me 'you travelling at 30 mph', I was NOT making any real effort
to break the speed limit, just taking my time, so the person talking
'bollocks' is you.

I do wonder whether the bike had anything to do with the fact that I could
cycle at a 'fast' rate, it was quite heavy, not like those which you could
pick up with your little finger.

So, the answer to being able to cycle fast, seems to be, get a heavy bike!

Alan

>
> Anyway AUK rules limit you to a maximum speed of 30 kph.
>
>
> Tim
 
"Simon Brooke" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> in message <[email protected]>, Tim Hall
> ('[email protected]') wrote:
>
>> On Sat, 07 Jan 2006 19:29:32 GMT, "Alan Holmes"
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>>You should be able to do 72 miles in about two and a half hours.

>>
>> Bollocks (tm). 72 miles in two and a half hours is 28.8 mph.

>
> ...which is faster than the Tour de France peloton averages.


So, what does that say about the people who join in the race?

Out of interest, when going on a hostelling holiday one year, I left home at
two o'clock, intending to get to the hostel at about 7 o'clock, when I
arrived the hostel was not open, I asked someone waiting why the ostel was
closed, and the anwser wasthat it was 4.50, when I checked the distance, it
was 84 miles, which meant I had averaged 29.5 mph, and you should bear in
mind that I had two loaded pannier bags and a full saddle bag, which made
the bike almost impossible to lift as it was so heavy.

Alan

>
> --
> [email protected] (Simon Brooke) http://www.jasmine.org.uk/~simon/
>
> ;; For in much wisdom is much grief; and he that increaseth
> ;; knowledge increaseth sorrow.." - Ecclesiastes 1:18
 
Alan Holmes wrote:
> "Simon Brooke" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > in message <[email protected]>, Tim Hall
> > ('[email protected]') wrote:
> >
> >> On Sat, 07 Jan 2006 19:29:32 GMT, "Alan Holmes"
> >> <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>
> >>>You should be able to do 72 miles in about two and a half hours.
> >>
> >> Bollocks (tm). 72 miles in two and a half hours is 28.8 mph.

> >
> > ...which is faster than the Tour de France peloton averages.

>
> So, what does that say about the people who join in the race?
>
> Out of interest, when going on a hostelling holiday one year, I left home at
> two o'clock, intending to get to the hostel at about 7 o'clock, when I
> arrived the hostel was not open, I asked someone waiting why the ostel was
> closed, and the anwser wasthat it was 4.50, when I checked the distance, it
> was 84 miles, which meant I had averaged 29.5 mph, and you should bear in
> mind that I had two loaded pannier bags and a full saddle bag, which made
> the bike almost impossible to lift as it was so heavy.


did you happen to pass a silver DeLorean on the way? ;-)
 
MartinM wrote:

>>Out of interest, when going on a hostelling holiday one year, I left home at
>>two o'clock, intending to get to the hostel at about 7 o'clock, when I
>>arrived the hostel was not open, I asked someone waiting why the ostel was
>>closed, and the anwser wasthat it was 4.50, when I checked the distance, it
>>was 84 miles, which meant I had averaged 29.5 mph, and you should bear in
>>mind that I had two loaded pannier bags and a full saddle bag, which made
>>the bike almost impossible to lift as it was so heavy.

>
>
> did you happen to pass a silver DeLorean on the way? ;-)


Great Scott!

R.
 
MartinM wrote:
> Alan Holmes wrote:
>> "Simon Brooke" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> news:[email protected]...
>>> in message <[email protected]>, Tim Hall
>>> ('[email protected]') wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Sat, 07 Jan 2006 19:29:32 GMT, "Alan Holmes"
>>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> You should be able to do 72 miles in about two and a half hours.
>>>>
>>>> Bollocks (tm). 72 miles in two and a half hours is 28.8 mph.
>>>
>>> ...which is faster than the Tour de France peloton averages.

>>
>> So, what does that say about the people who join in the race?
>>
>> Out of interest, when going on a hostelling holiday one year, I left
>> home at two o'clock, intending to get to the hostel at about 7
>> o'clock, when I arrived the hostel was not open, I asked someone
>> waiting why the ostel was closed, and the anwser wasthat it was
>> 4.50, when I checked the distance, it was 84 miles, which meant I
>> had averaged 29.5 mph, and you should bear in mind that I had two
>> loaded pannier bags and a full saddle bag, which made the bike
>> almost impossible to lift as it was so heavy.

>
> did you happen to pass a silver DeLorean on the way? ;-)


He did, but it accelerated as he was riding past, and disappeared in a puff
of smoke.

--
Ambrose
 
Alan Holmes wrote:
>
> One day, many years ago, I was cycling home from work, taking my time, not
> in a hurry, when a car drew up behind me and stayed there for a while, I
> began to get a little angry, but the car then drew alongside me, the driver
> shouted to me 'you travelling at 30 mph', I was NOT making any real effort
> to break the speed limit, just taking my time, so the person talking
> 'bollocks' is you.


Like when I was tailed by a bus in London who toild me I was doing
'nearly 40'. Simple calculation based on cadence, gear and speed
indicated that unbeknownst to me, by back wheel had near doubled in
size.

Then when I stopped to check, it had returned to it's normal size.
Maybe I should patent it..

...d
 
David Martin wrote:

> Like when I was tailed by a bus in London who toild me I was doing
> 'nearly 40'. Simple calculation based on cadence, gear and speed
> indicated that unbeknownst to me, by back wheel had near doubled in
> size.
>
> Then when I stopped to check, it had returned to it's normal size.
> Maybe I should patent it..


I'm afraid it's already patented, together with the device that causes
lamp batteries to drain of all charge the day before the clocks go back.

R.
 
David Martin wrote:
> Alan Holmes wrote:
>>
>> One day, many years ago, I was cycling home from work, taking my
>> time, not in a hurry, when a car drew up behind me and stayed there
>> for a while, I began to get a little angry, but the car then drew
>> alongside me, the driver shouted to me 'you travelling at 30 mph', I
>> was NOT making any real effort to break the speed limit, just taking
>> my time, so the person talking 'bollocks' is you.

>
> Like when I was tailed by a bus in London who toild me I was doing
> 'nearly 40'. Simple calculation based on cadence, gear and speed
> indicated that unbeknownst to me, by back wheel had near doubled in
> size.


One hopes the bus [driver?] misread its speedometer, due to concentrating on
the road instead.

--
Ambrose
 
Alan Holmes wrote:

> Out of interest, when going on a hostelling holiday one year, I left home at
> two o'clock, intending to get to the hostel at about 7 o'clock, when I
> arrived the hostel was not open, I asked someone waiting why the ostel was
> closed, and the anwser wasthat it was 4.50, when I checked the distance, it
> was 84 miles, which meant I had averaged 29.5 mph, and you should bear in
> mind that I had two loaded pannier bags and a full saddle bag, which made
> the bike almost impossible to lift as it was so heavy.


You sure you didn't fall asleep on the way, and it was actually 4:50
the next day?

--
Dave...
 
Response to Alan Holmes:
> I left home at
> two o'clock, intending to get to the hostel at about 7 o'clock, when I
> arrived the hostel was not open, I asked someone waiting why the ostel was
> closed, and the anwser wasthat it was 4.50, when I checked the distance, it
> was 84 miles, which meant I had averaged 29.5 mph


I know what you mean; I had a bike computer like that once.


--
Mark, UK

"There is no man so good, who, were he to submit all his thoughts and
actions to the laws, would not deserve hanging ten times in his life."
 
"Mark McNeill" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> Response to Alan Holmes:
>> I left home at
>> two o'clock, intending to get to the hostel at about 7 o'clock, when I
>> arrived the hostel was not open, I asked someone waiting why the ostel
>> was
>> closed, and the anwser wasthat it was 4.50, when I checked the distance,
>> it
>> was 84 miles, which meant I had averaged 29.5 mph

>
> I know what you mean; I had a bike computer like that once.


This was before the days of computers!

Alan

>
>
> --
> Mark, UK
>
> "There is no man so good, who, were he to submit all his thoughts and
> actions to the laws, would not deserve hanging ten times in his life."
 
"dkahn400" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Alan Holmes wrote:
>
>> Out of interest, when going on a hostelling holiday one year, I left home
>> at
>> two o'clock, intending to get to the hostel at about 7 o'clock, when I
>> arrived the hostel was not open, I asked someone waiting why the ostel
>> was
>> closed, and the anwser wasthat it was 4.50, when I checked the distance,
>> it
>> was 84 miles, which meant I had averaged 29.5 mph, and you should bear in
>> mind that I had two loaded pannier bags and a full saddle bag, which made
>> the bike almost impossible to lift as it was so heavy.

>
> You sure you didn't fall asleep on the way, and it was actually 4:50
> the next day?


I sometimes pace cyclists to see what speeds they are travelling at, and
it's surprising how fast some of them travel, it's very common to pace
someone at 25 + mph

But, of course, i cannot be sure my car speedometer is really very accurate!

Alan

>
> --
> Dave...
>
 
Alan Holmes wrote:


> I sometimes pace cyclists to see what speeds they are travelling at, and
> it's surprising how fast some of them travel, it's very common to pace
> someone at 25 + mph


FSVO common, the only time I see cyclists riding at that speed is on
TT's

> But, of course, i cannot be sure my car speedometer is really very accurate!


sorry to disappoint you but you did not ever ride anywhere at 29.5 mph
average; think back, reconsider the journey and it will become
apparent.