We all know bike lanes are (generally) useless, but....



Returning to the topic at hand, thank them for their wonderful efforts in promoting cycling safety blah, blah then make a suggestion that you think might enhance their goals etc.

SCotty

LotteBum said:
I’m not entirely sure about the rest of the country, but here in Brisbane, most people are pretty thick. This does not exclude our beloved Council and Main Roads w@nkers who place bike lanes for up to 20 metres here and there to keep cyclists happy.



Very recently, a bike lane has been added on Hyde Road (Yeronga), where it intersects with Ispwich Road (T Intersection). For those who don’t know this intersection, basically the cars line up side by side in one lane, as those who turn left get a green arrow well before those turning right get a green light. That makes perfect sense to me.



The new bike lane has been placed to the very left of the lane and in the short time it has been there (maybe 6 weeks), I’ve not seen one motorist avoid sitting in it. But it’s not the motorists I’m annoyed at. It’s Council, for putting it there! I’m not entirely sure how I am supposed to make use of this bike lane, given that I turn right at the intersection and don’t want to get run over by those who are turning left (like I said, they get a green arrow well before those who are turning right).



If I’m not making any sense, e-mail me (lottehougaard at resortbrokers dot com dot au) and I’ll send you a diagram of the intersection to clarify it.



I don’t mind sitting to the right of the intersection, with all the cars turning right, but the bike lane has caused a couple of hiccups where drivers have indicated to me that I should be in the bike lane.



Should I drop Council a line, or am I *****ing and moaning?
 
LotteBum wrote:

>
> I'm not big on bike lanes, nor bike tracks. Bike tracks
> are good for Joe Blow who wants to ride 10km to work and for people
> with their kids, and I'm not saying that they shouldn't exist... but
> bike lanes are another story. A complete joke if you ask me.
>


I WISH there were bike tracks near my work good for commuting!

Commuting for several Joes on the way to Malaga (Perth) is via a bike lane
alongside cars and trucks doing 90-100 km/hr. I reckon sharing a normal
lane would be suicidal.

We still have similar problems with cars turning left across bike lanes, and
bike lanes vanishing on entrance and exit roads.

Vince

aka Joe Blow
 
Friday wrote:

> You both missed the tricky part, I didn't say below an IQ of 100, I said
> "below average". And whilst my definition of average is not according to
> the statistical definition, most people would agree that average is in
> "the middle".


No... that's the median. :)


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Bean

Remove "yourfinger" before replying
 
Bean Long wrote:
> Friday wrote:
>
>> You both missed the tricky part, I didn't say below an IQ of 100, I
>> said "below average". And whilst my definition of average is not
>> according to the statistical definition, most people would agree that
>> average is in "the middle".

>
>
> No... that's the median. :)
>
>



I knew that, but I gave a simpler definition because half of the people
on this newsgroup have below average IQs ;)

Friday
 
Friday wrote:
> Bean Long wrote:
> > Friday wrote:
> >
> >> You both missed the tricky part, I didn't say below an IQ of 100, I
> >> said "below average". And whilst my definition of average is not
> >> according to the statistical definition, most people would agree that
> >> average is in "the middle".

> >
> >
> > No... that's the median. :)
> >
> >

>
>
> I knew that, but I gave a simpler definition because half of the people
> on this newsgroup have below average IQs ;)
>
> Friday


What does IQ mean?
 
Friday wrote:

> I knew that, but I gave a simpler definition because half of the people
> on this newsgroup have below average IQs ;)
>


Based on my reading of this newsgroup, I'd suggest the mean IQ of people
posting here is way above average. :)

Make what you want of that...

Vince
 
LotteBum wrote:

> ::Very recently, a bike lane has been added on Hyde Road (Yeronga),
> where it intersects with Ispwich Road (T Intersection). For those who
> don't know this intersection, basically the cars line up side by side
> in one lane, as those who turn left get a green arrow well before those
> turning right get a green light. That makes perfect sense to me. ::
>


> ::If I'm not making any sense, e-mail me (lottehougaard at
> resortbrokers dot com dot au) and I'll send you a diagram of the
> intersection to clarify it. ::


Lotte: Hyde Road does not come within a bull's roar of Ippy Road. Do
you mean Venner/Ipswich, or Hyde/Fairfield?

Donga
 
Vincent Patrick wrote:
> Friday wrote:
>
>
>>I knew that, but I gave a simpler definition because half of the people
>>on this newsgroup have below average IQs ;)
>>

>
>
> Based on my reading of this newsgroup, I'd suggest the mean IQ of people
> posting here is way above average. :)
>
> Make what you want of that...
>
> Vince
>
>
>
>


You're right and I was wrong. The median is what we call the average,
and the mean is the largest grouping of a range, so the two can be quite
different. Overall I think we have a great bunch of people on here (if
you don't included the few nutters) and reading the newsgroup postings
is one of my small pleasures in life (along with mountain biking.)

Friday
 
"Friday" wrote:
>
> You're right and I was wrong. The median is what we call the average, and
> the mean is the largest grouping of a range, so the two can be quite
> different.


?? Was that meant to have a smiley, or is it a typo?

I'm no statistician, but what I do know is that the median is what we call
the middle, the mean is what we call the average, and the mode is the
largest grouping.

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Peter Signorini wrote:
> "Friday" wrote:
>
>>You're right and I was wrong. The median is what we call the average, and
>>the mean is the largest grouping of a range, so the two can be quite
>>different.

>
>
> ?? Was that meant to have a smiley, or is it a typo?
>
> I'm no statistician, but what I do know is that the median is what we call
> the middle, the mean is what we call the average, and the mode is the
> largest grouping.
>


Well it seems it depends on who you ask. Try Wiki, it's where i got my
answer from.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Median_(statistics)
 
Friday wrote:
> Peter Signorini wrote:
>
>> "Friday" wrote:
>>
>>> You're right and I was wrong. The median is what we call the average,
>>> and the mean is the largest grouping of a range, so the two can be
>>> quite different.

>>
>>
>>
>> ?? Was that meant to have a smiley, or is it a typo?
>>
>> I'm no statistician, but what I do know is that the median is what we
>> call the middle, the mean is what we call the average, and the mode is
>> the largest grouping.
>>

>
> Well it seems it depends on who you ask. Try Wiki, it's where i got my
> answer from.
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Median_(statistics)


Which shows exactly what Peter said...

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BrettS
 
Gemma_k wrote:
>
> "Tamyka Bell" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > LotteBum wrote:
> > <snip>
> >> ::Should I drop Council a line, or am I *****ing and moaning?::

> >
> > Yes, and yes. They should be used to both by now ;)
> >
> > I too hate the token Bne bike lanes, although did you know
> > that part of Wynnum Rd has bike lanes that are clearways
> > during peak hour for cyclists? No dodging the parked cars -
> > you can actually use the lane - fancy that! Now THAT is
> > cool, a big thanks to whoever was responsible for getting
> > that done.

>
> That's what ALL bicycle lanes are supposed to be like! One that has parking
> in it just isn't a bike lane either my aust standards or the road rules - so
> don't go tarnishing those that are real ones with your pretend brisbane
> ones.
>
> Gemm bobthebikelanebuilder


"I'll ride in it if you stop parking your fscking car in
it!"

;-)

Probably wouldn't get much sympathy with that on my jersey,
I suppose...

Tam