Weight Watchers AND Atkins

Discussion in 'Food and nutrition' started by Brian Worthey, Jan 26, 2004.

  1. I see many people talking about doing a combination of Atkins and Weight Watchers diets. I have done
    both of these in the past, just not at the same time. I think I undersand the premise behind both of
    these programs, but am confused as to how I would do a conbination of these. What parts are you
    combining?

    Hope someone can help me!

    B-Worthey
     
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  2. Lesanne

    Lesanne Guest

    Easy. Eat protein, count the points.

    "Brian Worthey" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]...
    > I see many people talking about doing a combination of Atkins and Weight Watchers diets. I have
    > done both of these in the past, just not at the
    same
    > time. I think I undersand the premise behind both of these programs, but
    am
    > confused as to how I would do a conbination of these. What parts are you combining?
    >
    > Hope someone can help me!
    >
    > B-Worthey
     
  3. we just cut out things like bread,pasta,rice, potatoes, dairy, if u follow
    atkins or want to check out the web site. www.atkins.com there's all the
    infor u need there
    angie
    "Brian Worthey" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]...
    > I see many people talking about doing a combination of Atkins and Weight Watchers diets. I have
    > done both of these in the past, just not at the
    same
    > time. I think I undersand the premise behind both of these programs, but
    am
    > confused as to how I would do a conbination of these. What parts are you combining?
    >
    > Hope someone can help me!
    >
    > B-Worthey
     
  4. "Lesanne" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]...
    > Easy. Eat protein, count the points.
    >

    Well, yeah, I guess I did think of that, but I guess I was thinking more of the meats and nuts and
    things that were higher in fat, that you can have on the Atkins diet that would count a good deal of
    points, but like you said I guess just eat it and count the points.

    Thanks,

    B-Worthey
     
  5. Laura

    Laura Guest

    I thought you could eat cheese on Atkins. Or is it just milk you eliminated. I wouldn't think that
    would be very healthy.

    "Anglea Woollcombe" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]...
    > we just cut out things like bread,pasta,rice, potatoes, dairy, if u follow atkins or want to check
    > out the web site. www.atkins.com there's all the infor u need there angie "Brian Worthey"
    > <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected]...
    > > I see many people talking about doing a combination of Atkins and Weight Watchers diets. I have
    > > done both of these in the past, just not at the
    > same
    > > time. I think I undersand the premise behind both of these programs,
    but
    > am
    > > confused as to how I would do a conbination of these. What parts are
    you
    > > combining?
    > >
    > > Hope someone can help me!
    > >
    > > B-Worthey
    > >
    >
     
  6. Petal

    Petal Guest

    I think Lesanne summed it up best (in terms of how to follow both programmes), so use that as a
    guideline.

    I'm not entirely convinced that you'd be able to consume enough of a balanced diet by using the
    points system with Atkins, though. Atkins is ultimately a calorie restricted diet (although it's
    touted as an "all the fat you can eat" diet by some), but some foods give you more bang for your
    buck than others. If I follow WW, I can eat 20 points worth of Twinkies a day and be technically on
    programme. I am eating few enough calories to lose weight, but I'm obviously not getting enough
    nutrients. As others have mentioned, make sure you take all the supplements and vitamins Atkins
    suggests in the books, particularly if you're going to count points at the same time.

    Atkins didn't work for me simply because it wasn't a way of eating I could do for life. If you find
    Atkins too hard to follow, you could always try a lowER carb (i.e. not as low as Atkins suggests)
    diet and switch from white breads/pastas/rice to whole grain and keep your sugar intake to a
    minimum. I think that sort of diet might be a bit more suitable with WW...but I'm not a dietician,
    nor do I play one on TV. ;)

    Cheers, Petal

    "Lesanne" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected]...
    > Easy. Eat protein, count the points.
    >
    > "Brian Worthey" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > news:[email protected]...
    > > I see many people talking about doing a combination of Atkins and Weight Watchers diets. I have
    > > done both of these in the past, just not at the
    > same
    > > time. I think I undersand the premise behind both of these programs,
    but
    > am
    > > confused as to how I would do a conbination of these. What parts are
    you
    > > combining?
    > >
    > > Hope someone can help me!
    > >
    > > B-Worthey
    > >
    >
     
  7. Laura

    Laura Guest

    "Brian Worthey" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:VdjJb.2[email protected]...
    >
    > "Lesanne" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected]...
    > > Easy. Eat protein, count the points.
    > >
    >
    > Well, yeah, I guess I did think of that, but I guess I was thinking more
    of
    > the meats and nuts and things that were higher in fat, that you can have
    on
    > the Atkins diet that would count a good deal of points, but like you said
    I
    > guess just eat it and count the points.
    >
    > Thanks,
    >
    Another way of looking at it is to just lower or eliminate your carbs while you increase your
    protein. No where does it advocate eating all the fat that Atkins does. So instead of bread, pasta
    and potatoes, eat more meat chicken or fish with lots of veggies. You can do low carb without really
    doing atkins while following the WW principals.
     
  8. "Laura" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]...
    > I thought you could eat cheese on Atkins. Or is it just milk you
    eliminated.
    > I wouldn't think that would be very healthy.

    You can eat cheese, no milk though. What did you think was unhealthy?

    B-Worthey
     
  9. if you follow atkins in the first phase you are not allowed to have nuts or
    fruits or any of the high fat things except cheese salads salad vegetables,
    heavey cream and other things if you want more info go to www.atkins.com
    it's outlined there for you.
    angie
    "Brian Worthey" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]...
    >
    > "Lesanne" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected]...
    > > Easy. Eat protein, count the points.
    > >
    >
    > Well, yeah, I guess I did think of that, but I guess I was thinking more
    of
    > the meats and nuts and things that were higher in fat, that you can have
    on
    > the Atkins diet that would count a good deal of points, but like you said
    I
    > guess just eat it and count the points.
    >
    > Thanks,
    >
    > B-Worthey
     
  10. you just eat cheese and use cream, but there is certian kinds of cheese you
    can have. cehck out the site for the infor www.atkins.com
    angie
    "Laura" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]...
    > I thought you could eat cheese on Atkins. Or is it just milk you
    eliminated.
    > I wouldn't think that would be very healthy.
    >
    > "Anglea Woollcombe" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > news:[email protected]...
    > > we just cut out things like bread,pasta,rice, potatoes, dairy, if u
    follow
    > > atkins or want to check out the web site. www.atkins.com there's all the infor u need there
    > > angie "Brian Worthey" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > > news:[email protected]...
    > > > I see many people talking about doing a combination of Atkins and
    Weight
    > > > Watchers diets. I have done both of these in the past, just not at
    the
    > > same
    > > > time. I think I undersand the premise behind both of these programs,
    > but
    > > am
    > > > confused as to how I would do a conbination of these. What parts are
    > you
    > > > combining?
    > > >
    > > > Hope someone can help me!
    > > >
    > > > B-Worthey
    > > >
    > > >
    > >
     
  11. Laura

    Laura Guest

    "Petal" <[email protected]#NoSpam#yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]...
    > I think Lesanne summed it up best (in terms of how to follow both programmes), so use that as a
    > guideline.
    >
    > I'm not entirely convinced that you'd be able to consume enough of a balanced diet by using the
    > points system with Atkins, though. Atkins is ultimately a calorie restricted diet (although it's
    > touted as an "all the fat you can eat" diet by some), but some foods give you more bang for your
    > buck than others. If I follow WW, I can eat 20 points worth of Twinkies a day and be technically
    > on programme. I am eating few enough calories to
    lose
    > weight, but I'm obviously not getting enough nutrients. As others have mentioned, make sure you
    > take all the supplements and vitamins Atkins suggests in the books, particularly if you're going
    > to count points at the same time.
    >
    > Atkins didn't work for me simply because it wasn't a way of eating I could do for life. If you
    > find Atkins too hard to follow, you could always try a lowER carb (i.e. not as low as Atkins
    > suggests) diet and switch from white breads/pastas/rice to whole grain and keep your sugar intake
    > to a minimum.
    I
    > think that sort of diet might be a bit more suitable with WW...but I'm not
    a
    > dietician, nor do I play one on TV. ;)

    This is the type of program that WW stresses. They want you to eat the RIGHT kind of carbs. And as
    many have pointed out, no program is going to work if you have to give up things that you love.
    Don't make changes to your diet that you can't make for the rest of your life. Atkins is a diet
    while WW is a WOE that you can follow for the rest of your life if you want to eat properly and in a
    healthy way. Eating lowER carbs is really easy and is probably the smarter way of doing things. Have
    eggs instead of ceral for breakfast, have a salad and chicken instead of a sandwich for lunch. Skip
    the potatoes, pasta and rice in favor of lots of green veggies for dinner. How hard is that? My
    carbs these days come from my cereal in the morning which is GoLean crunch. Higher protein than most
    cereals and my skinny cow or GoLean Crunch bars. Things I don't want to give up. And my diet is very
    balanced which I am not convinced that you can do that with the Atkins. BTDT!!! That's why I am now
    doing WW instead of Atkins.
     
  12. Laura

    Laura Guest

    "Brian Worthey" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:D[email protected]...
    >
    > "Laura" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected]
    > news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
    > > I thought you could eat cheese on Atkins. Or is it just milk you
    > eliminated.
    > > I wouldn't think that would be very healthy.
    >
    > You can eat cheese, no milk though. What did you think was unhealthy?

    I'm thinking that not drinking milk is unhealthy. There are some recent studies that indicate that
    drinking milk helps with weight loss. Plus women need the calcium to avoid osteoporosis. Supposedly
    you can't get the same amount of calcium by eating cheese or by taking supplements.
     
  13. Laura

    Laura Guest

    I have also read that too much cheese can cause you to plateau while on Atkins.

    "Anglea Woollcombe" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]...
    > you just eat cheese and use cream, but there is certian kinds of cheese
    you
    > can have. cehck out the site for the infor www.atkins.com angie "Laura" <[email protected]>
    > wrote in message news:[email protected]...
    > > I thought you could eat cheese on Atkins. Or is it just milk you
    > eliminated.
    > > I wouldn't think that would be very healthy.
    > >
    > > "Anglea Woollcombe" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > > news:[email protected]...
    > > > we just cut out things like bread,pasta,rice, potatoes, dairy, if u
    > follow
    > > > atkins or want to check out the web site. www.atkins.com there's all
    the
    > > > infor u need there angie "Brian Worthey" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > > > news:[email protected]...
    > > > > I see many people talking about doing a combination of Atkins and
    > Weight
    > > > > Watchers diets. I have done both of these in the past, just not at
    > the
    > > > same
    > > > > time. I think I undersand the premise behind both of these
    programs,
    > > but
    > > > am
    > > > > confused as to how I would do a conbination of these. What parts
    are
    > > you
    > > > > combining?
    > > > >
    > > > > Hope someone can help me!
    > > > >
    > > > > B-Worthey
    > > > >
    > > > >
    > > >
    > > >
    >
     
  14. Lesanne

    Lesanne Guest

    Gotta say, I actually DID atkins lots of times, and always ended up fatter than when I started some
    6 months after I got sick of it. Did WW lots of times too, and usually gained back some, but never
    all, resulting in my 20 year long project to now, at goal. Flex in my opinion is the All Time Best
    Diet ever created. Eat what you like and what feels good, go for healthy stuff as much as possible,
    try new things/combinations to see what works best for you. It all fits on the flex plan. I eat a
    varied balanced diet. My body tells me when I need more protein now. And when I have had enough.
    Bein in a hurry never got me to goal. The everyday DECISION to not stop until I reached goal and to
    take the suggestions in the WW literature did the trick.

    Lesanne
    365(1981)247(rejoin, 2002)157.5(now)164(wwgoal)

    "Laura" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected]
    news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
    >
    > "Petal" <[email protected]#NoSpam#yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
    > news:[email protected]...
    > > I think Lesanne summed it up best (in terms of how to follow both programmes), so use that as a
    > > guideline.
    > >
    > > I'm not entirely convinced that you'd be able to consume enough of a balanced diet by using the
    > > points system with Atkins, though. Atkins is ultimately a calorie restricted diet (although it's
    > > touted as an "all
    the
    > > fat you can eat" diet by some), but some foods give you more bang for
    your
    > > buck than others. If I follow WW, I can eat 20 points worth of Twinkies
    a
    > > day and be technically on programme. I am eating few enough calories to
    > lose
    > > weight, but I'm obviously not getting enough nutrients. As others have mentioned, make sure you
    > > take all the supplements and vitamins Atkins suggests in the books, particularly if you're going
    > > to count points at
    the
    > > same time.
    > >
    > > Atkins didn't work for me simply because it wasn't a way of eating I
    could
    > > do for life. If you find Atkins too hard to follow, you could always try
    a
    > > lowER carb (i.e. not as low as Atkins suggests) diet and switch from
    white
    > > breads/pastas/rice to whole grain and keep your sugar intake to a
    minimum.
    > I
    > > think that sort of diet might be a bit more suitable with WW...but I'm
    not
    > a
    > > dietician, nor do I play one on TV. ;)
    >
    > This is the type of program that WW stresses. They want you to eat the
    RIGHT
    > kind of carbs. And as many have pointed out, no program is going to work
    if
    > you have to give up things that you love. Don't make changes to your diet that you can't make for
    > the rest of your life. Atkins is a diet while WW
    is
    > a WOE that you can follow for the rest of your life if you want to eat properly and in a healthy
    > way. Eating lowER carbs is really easy and is probably the smarter way of doing things. Have eggs
    > instead of ceral for breakfast, have a salad and chicken instead of a sandwich for lunch. Skip the
    > potatoes, pasta and rice in favor of lots of green veggies for dinner. How hard is that? My carbs
    > these days come from my cereal in the morning which is GoLean crunch. Higher protein than most
    > cereals and my skinny cow or GoLean Crunch bars. Things I don't want to give up. And my diet is
    > very balanced which I am not convinced that you can do that with the Atkins. BTDT!!! That's why I
    > am now doing WW instead of Atkins.
     
  15. Jk

    Jk Guest

    "Laura" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]...
    > "Brian Worthey" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > news:D[email protected]...
    > >
    > > "Laura" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected]
    > > news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
    > > > I thought you could eat cheese on Atkins. Or is it just milk you
    > > eliminated.
    > > > I wouldn't think that would be very healthy.
    > >
    > > You can eat cheese, no milk though. What did you think was unhealthy?
    >
    >
    > I'm thinking that not drinking milk is unhealthy. There are some recent studies that indicate that
    > drinking milk helps with weight loss. Plus
    women
    > need the calcium to avoid osteoporosis. Supposedly you can't get the same amount of calcium by
    > eating cheese or by taking supplements.

    Cows don't drink milk and manage to get enough calcium not only to provide for their own bones, but
    also to have a large supply of it in their milk. There are plenty of non-milk sources of calcium out
    there such as dark green leafy vegetables.
     
  16. thats why u are limited to 3 - 4 ounces a day of the stuff you have to
    account for everything that you put in your mouth to make sure that you only
    eat 20 carbs for the first 14 days.
    "Laura" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:p[email protected]...
    > I have also read that too much cheese can cause you to plateau while on Atkins.
    >
    > "Anglea Woollcombe" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > news:[email protected]...
    > > you just eat cheese and use cream, but there is certian kinds of cheese
    > you
    > > can have. cehck out the site for the infor www.atkins.com angie "Laura" <[email protected]>
    > > wrote in message news:[email protected]...
    > > > I thought you could eat cheese on Atkins. Or is it just milk you
    > > eliminated.
    > > > I wouldn't think that would be very healthy.
    > > >
    > > > "Anglea Woollcombe" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > > > news:[email protected]...
    > > > > we just cut out things like bread,pasta,rice, potatoes, dairy, if u
    > > follow
    > > > > atkins or want to check out the web site. www.atkins.com there's all
    > the
    > > > > infor u need there angie "Brian Worthey" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > > > > news:[email protected]...
    > > > > > I see many people talking about doing a combination of Atkins and
    > > Weight
    > > > > > Watchers diets. I have done both of these in the past, just not
    at
    > > the
    > > > > same
    > > > > > time. I think I undersand the premise behind both of these
    > programs,
    > > > but
    > > > > am
    > > > > > confused as to how I would do a conbination of these. What parts
    > are
    > > > you
    > > > > > combining?
    > > > > >
    > > > > > Hope someone can help me!
    > > > > >
    > > > > > B-Worthey
    > > > > >
    > > > > >
    > > > >
    > > > >
    > > >
    > >
     
  17. atkins recomends that you take suplements while doing his diet. like i said
    before you can eat cheese but only certian kinds and your only aloud 3 to 4
    ounces of it a day.
    angie
    "Laura" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]...
    > "Brian Worthey" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > news:D[email protected]...
    > >
    > > "Laura" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected]
    > > news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
    > > > I thought you could eat cheese on Atkins. Or is it just milk you
    > > eliminated.
    > > > I wouldn't think that would be very healthy.
    > >
    > > You can eat cheese, no milk though. What did you think was unhealthy?
    >
    >
    > I'm thinking that not drinking milk is unhealthy. There are some recent studies that indicate that
    > drinking milk helps with weight loss. Plus
    women
    > need the calcium to avoid osteoporosis. Supposedly you can't get the same amount of calcium by
    > eating cheese or by taking supplements.
     
  18. thats what i am doing i'm not rushing things. i'm taking this diet each day
    at a time changing things as i go. i have learned alot from reading atkins
    book. and he even says that if you find induction hard to cut things out
    slowly and that is what i am doing. i know that getting used to any diet
    will take some getting used to. i have ww dwn i just need to work on atkins
    and i am doing that by learning from my mistake and getting as much info as
    i can
    angie
    "Lesanne" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]...
    > Gotta say, I actually DID atkins lots of times, and always ended up fatter than when I started
    > some 6 months after I got sick of it. Did WW lots of times too, and usually gained back some,
    > but never all, resulting in my 20 year long project to now, at goal. Flex in my opinion is the
    > All Time
    Best
    > Diet ever created. Eat what you like and what feels good, go for healthy stuff as much as
    > possible, try new things/combinations to see what works best for you. It all fits on the flex
    > plan. I eat a varied balanced
    diet.
    > My body tells me when I need more protein now. And when I have had
    enough.
    > Bein in a hurry never got me to goal. The everyday DECISION to not stop until I reached goal and
    > to take the suggestions in the WW literature did the trick.
    >
    > Lesanne
    > 365(1981)247(rejoin, 2002)157.5(now)164(wwgoal)
    >
    > "Laura" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected]
    > news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
    > >
    > > "Petal" <[email protected]#NoSpam#yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
    > > news:[email protected]...
    > > > I think Lesanne summed it up best (in terms of how to follow both programmes), so use that as
    > > > a guideline.
    > > >
    > > > I'm not entirely convinced that you'd be able to consume enough of a balanced diet by using
    > > > the points system with Atkins, though. Atkins
    is
    > > > ultimately a calorie restricted diet (although it's touted as an "all
    > the
    > > > fat you can eat" diet by some), but some foods give you more bang for
    > your
    > > > buck than others. If I follow WW, I can eat 20 points worth of
    Twinkies
    > a
    > > > day and be technically on programme. I am eating few enough calories
    to
    > > lose
    > > > weight, but I'm obviously not getting enough nutrients. As others have mentioned, make sure
    > > > you take all the supplements and vitamins Atkins suggests in the books, particularly if you're
    > > > going to count points at
    > the
    > > > same time.
    > > >
    > > > Atkins didn't work for me simply because it wasn't a way of eating I
    > could
    > > > do for life. If you find Atkins too hard to follow, you could always
    try
    > a
    > > > lowER carb (i.e. not as low as Atkins suggests) diet and switch from
    > white
    > > > breads/pastas/rice to whole grain and keep your sugar intake to a
    > minimum.
    > > I
    > > > think that sort of diet might be a bit more suitable with WW...but I'm
    > not
    > > a
    > > > dietician, nor do I play one on TV. ;)
    > >
    > > This is the type of program that WW stresses. They want you to eat the
    > RIGHT
    > > kind of carbs. And as many have pointed out, no program is going to work
    > if
    > > you have to give up things that you love. Don't make changes to your
    diet
    > > that you can't make for the rest of your life. Atkins is a diet while WW
    > is
    > > a WOE that you can follow for the rest of your life if you want to eat properly and in a healthy
    > > way. Eating lowER carbs is really easy and is probably the smarter way of doing things. Have
    > > eggs instead of ceral for breakfast, have a salad and chicken instead of a sandwich for lunch.
    Skip
    > > the potatoes, pasta and rice in favor of lots of green veggies for
    dinner.
    > > How hard is that? My carbs these days come from my cereal in the morning which is GoLean crunch.
    > > Higher protein than most cereals and my skinny
    cow
    > > or GoLean Crunch bars. Things I don't want to give up. And my diet is
    very
    > > balanced which I am not convinced that you can do that with the Atkins. BTDT!!! That's why I am
    > > now doing WW instead of Atkins.
    > >
    >
     
  19. not only the vegetables but u can also take calcium pills to make up fir
    what you are not getting as is what most people do. there are lots of people
    who don't like milk or diary or who can't drink it for reasons they can't
    control. before you judge something look into further info buy atkins book
    or check out the web site. i am no expert on low carbs yet but have learned
    alot from this group as well as others, i also have bought the book and read
    it plenty to make sure i am doing things right.
    angie
    "JK" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]...
    > "Laura" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected]
    > news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
    > > "Brian Worthey" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > > news:D[email protected]...
    > > >
    > > > "Laura" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected]
    > > > news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
    > > > > I thought you could eat cheese on Atkins. Or is it just milk you
    > > > eliminated.
    > > > > I wouldn't think that would be very healthy.
    > > >
    > > > You can eat cheese, no milk though. What did you think was unhealthy?
    > >
    > >
    > > I'm thinking that not drinking milk is unhealthy. There are some recent studies that indicate
    > > that drinking milk helps with weight loss. Plus
    > women
    > > need the calcium to avoid osteoporosis. Supposedly you can't get the
    same
    > > amount of calcium by eating cheese or by taking supplements.
    >
    > Cows don't drink milk and manage to get enough calcium not only to provide for their own bones,
    > but also to have a large supply of it in their milk. There are plenty of non-milk sources of
    > calcium out there such as dark
    green
    > leafy vegetables.
     
  20. Laura

    Laura Guest

    Most doctors will tell you that taking supplements for calcuim is not the same. You need to have the
    right combination of calcuim, vit D & K for them to be effective. Also, it is okay to SUPPLEMENT
    your calcuim intake from milk but with the Atkins diet all you are getting is supplements. None of
    the real thing.

    "Anglea Woollcombe" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]...
    > atkins recomends that you take suplements while doing his diet. like i
    said
    > before you can eat cheese but only certian kinds and your only aloud 3 to
    4
    > ounces of it a day. angie "Laura" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected]
    > news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
    > > "Brian Worthey" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > > news:D[email protected]...
    > > >
    > > > "Laura" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected]
    > > > news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
    > > > > I thought you could eat cheese on Atkins. Or is it just milk you
    > > > eliminated.
    > > > > I wouldn't think that would be very healthy.
    > > >
    > > > You can eat cheese, no milk though. What did you think was unhealthy?
    > >
    > >
    > > I'm thinking that not drinking milk is unhealthy. There are some recent studies that indicate
    > > that drinking milk helps with weight loss. Plus
    > women
    > > need the calcium to avoid osteoporosis. Supposedly you can't get the
    same
    > > amount of calcium by eating cheese or by taking supplements.
    >
     
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