Weight Watchers AND Atkins



i am trying this diet for this week and if i can't do it then i have decided
to just cut back on most of the high carbs and contiune with weight
watchers. i am not giving up on either right now and i am so far doing fine
and i am eating enough and getting enough out of both diets.
"ray miller" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> On Mon, 05 Jan 2004 02:47:36 -0600, Joyce <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >No one has been putting you down at all, not that I have seen. We all
are
> >concerned as it appears you have been struggling with the new additional
program.
> >Low carbs can be incorporated into ww - but totally combining two
programs, one
> >with an entirely different set of extremes - is pretty scary on its own.
We do
> >want you to be successful and reach your goals, but we also want you to
do it in a
> >healthy manner. Weightloss is supposed to be for health benefits - our
concerns
> >have only been for you ... not against you.
>
> I agree with what Joyce said. We want you to succeed. My concern is that you are finding it
> difficult. Atkins can give really good results, but it's a difficult path. I also understand that
> working in a environment where food is available doesn't make it easier.
>
> Good luck
>
> Ray
> --
> rmnsuk overall - 273/209/182
 
Dear Angie,

I think we all agree with you. We are trying to support your journey as you try and support us.
Don't let the harshness of others in other news groups affect your participation here. We all
support your choices for finding out what works best for you. Continued good luck in this new year,
Lee Anglea Woollcombe <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> Low carb diets are like any diet you go off of it and go back to your old life style and way of
> eating then yes your going to gain the weight back. This is the same with weight watchers. you go
> off program and what happens you gain the weight back. For me I am trying something new. I am only
trying
> it for a couple of weeks, if it doesn't work then i don't have to keep it up. i can just stick to
> weight watchers. Doesn't mean that i am going to give this whole thing up because i can't do one
> part of it. If I did that then I would not get anywhere in life , nobody would. It doesn't hurt to
try
> something. I am not giving up on weight watchers as it has helped me to
lose
> 30lb. infact i am still doing weight watchers. I am adding atkins to the
mix
> like i said to eat even a little more better than i already do. I have already given up most of
> the things that i can't have on atkins even way before i started. so this is the extra boost that
> i need to give
up
> the rest and to eat better. every has a choice to eat how they want and to live how they want to.
> no one can make them change no matter how hard they try. also like has ben stated by other people
> ow carb diets work for some and not for others. but a person has to find that out for themself
> before they realize that it doesn't work. and just because it's not for them doesn't mean that it
> doesn't work. angie "Janice Kennish" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:lGXJb.218514$8y1.803731@attbi_s52...
> > Ray,
> >
> > I did not intend to imply low-carb is a "fad" diet in and of itself and
I
> > realize there are many people prone to carb intolerance and need low-carb--however, like fad-
> > diets, in my experience, if you don't stick
> with
> > it, the weight all comes back eventually, this seems to hold true more
for
> > those who have lost great amounts of weight this way rather than 5 or 10 pounds. Later in the
> > post I said you may keep the weight off longer
than
> > any "fad" diet but eventually, if my friend continues to eat like he
used
> > to, he will put back on the 5 pounds he lost--he will never be able to
eat
> > carbs like he used to again without gaining it back, he never ate much
in
> > the way of that stuff anyway and he may be a lucky one, others I know aren't.
> >
> > I believe whole-heartedly that people have to do what is right for them.
> If
> > low-carb is what is right, great, by all means do it. Unfortunately,
the
> > people I know who have done it have all done it for the wrong
reasons--for
> > the quick fix to lose a lot of weight (with the exception of my
gentleman
> > friend) and it doesn't work for them.
> >
> > --
> > Janice
> > 263/252/150 (maybe 130)
> >
> >
> > "ray miller" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > news:[email protected]...
> > > >I have had many friends do Atkins who have followed it to the letter. They lost
> > weight
> > > >quickly, after they got over the withdrawl, however within the first
> week
> > of
> > > >not following it to the letter put all the weight back on. One of
the
> > > >people who had this happen is a gentleman who never really needed to
> lose
> > > >much in the first place, lost 15 pounds on Atkins, went off for 1
week
> > and
> > > >put on 10 pounds within that week. He exercises daily so lack of
> > exercise
> > > >is not an issue (works out aerobically and with weights). I have a
> neice
> > > >who did Atkins she lost about 25 pounds, she stopped following the
> > program
> > > >and put back on about 15 pounds--she took it back off after starting
a
> > > >sensible diet and exercise and has kept it off with that.
> > >
> > > When you do a low-carb diet you must go into ketosis. This means that you must deplete the
> > > body's store of glycogen. You will lose around 10 pounds of bodyweight most of which is water
> > > associated with the glycogen. When you come out of ketosis the glycogen store is replenished
> > > and that 10 pounds or so comes back very quickly.
> > >
> > > The anecdotal stuff you have described above fits in well with this. Your gentleman friend
> > > lost 5 pounds. If he was exercising it was probably mostly fat, so that was a good deal. Your
> > > neice lost 10 pounds, even better.
> > >
> > > I'm not saying Atkins is good, or better, but it is an option for some people. It is a short
> > > term diet rather than a long term WOE. To my mind if someone wants to get rid of 15 pounds
> > > very fast, then Atkins is a good option. But people who do this must realize that they will
> > > have to overshoot their target because they will gain a few pounds when they start eating
> > > carbs again.
> > >
> > > >With Atkins or any other low-carb diet, like any other "fad" DIET you have to remain on it
for
> > life
> > > >to keep it off.
> > >
> > > I'm not sure that Low-Carbing is a 'fad' diet. Yes it isn't one most people can stay on for
> > > any length of time, but that doesn't mean it's not useful. It's different, not better or
> > > worse.
> > >
> > > Ray
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > rmnsuk overall - 273/210/182
> >
> >
 
"Janice Kennish" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:stXJb.123569$VB2.351356@attbi_s51...
> Jane,
>
> I used to be that way. A pound a week wasn't enough so I tried it all
too!!
> It took a new mind set about September

That is the most important thing IMHO. If you have the right mindset and the right attitude you can
achieve any amount of weightloss, without it you won;t stick to it long term.

> Congratulations on your loss and continued success--doesn't it feel good
to
> hear about a conversation like the one you heard!!!

Thanks, It really gave me the boost I needed to get back on plan after a scary 9lb gain
over christmas

Jane

>
> --
> Janice
> 263/252/150 (maybe 130)
>
>
> "Just Me" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:JiSJb.16511$526.110254@newsfep4-
> glfd.server.ntli.net...
> > > I just worry about people who are looking for a quick fix because they want to lose the weight
> > > "today".
> >
> > A FOAF was complaining to me the other day that "everyone else has got
> this
> > sickness bug except me" I asked why she was complaining and she told me "They're all losing
> > weight without having to try"
> >
> > This is from the person who has tried every diet going - cabbage soup/WW/atkins etc. She sticks
> > to them for about a week, loses a few
> pounds
> > then decides it's not quick enough and stops for a while before trying
the
> > next quick fix. She said to our mutual friend that she was jealous that
> I've
> > lost 60lb in the last year and she 'just can't'. She complained that the average loss of just
> > over a 1lb a week wasn't quick enough for her.
> >
> > She was then asked "Well who's the one 60lb down and who's the one still moaning and weighing
> > the same?"
> >
> > I felt very smug when my friend recounted the conversation to me!
> >
> > Jane
> >
>
 
the only reason i stated that is that it seems alot lately that no matter
what i say on this news group or others i get put down for it.
and as a kid growing up i have heard all the comments about being over
weight or being teased because i am different so what if i am we all are
different
thats what make us special
angie
"Just Me" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> I was in no way implying you were looking for a quick fix, I hope I didn't upset you. Most of the
> people I have 'met' through ASDWW seem to be really sensible.
>
> Jane
>
> "Anglea Woollcombe" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > i am not looking for any quick fixes i know that losing weight takes
time
> > ,and i am in no way rushing things i take them one day at a time. "Just Me"
> > <[email protected]> wrote in message news:JiSJb.16511$526.110254@newsfep4-
> > glfd.server.ntli.net...
> > > > I just worry about people who are looking for a quick fix because they want to lose the
> > > > weight "today".
> > >
> > > A FOAF was complaining to me the other day that "everyone else has got
> > this
> > > sickness bug except me" I asked why she was complaining and she told
me
> > > "They're all losing weight without having to try"
> > >
> > > This is from the person who has tried every diet going - cabbage soup/WW/atkins etc. She
> > > sticks to them for about a week, loses a few
> > pounds
> > > then decides it's not quick enough and stops for a while before trying
> the
> > > next quick fix. She said to our mutual friend that she was jealous
that
> > I've
> > > lost 60lb in the last year and she 'just can't'. She complained that
the
> > > average loss of just over a 1lb a week wasn't quick enough for her.
> > >
> > > She was then asked "Well who's the one 60lb down and who's the one
still
> > > moaning and weighing the same?"
> > >
> > > I felt very smug when my friend recounted the conversation to me!
> > >
> > > Jane
> > >
> > >
> >
>
 
I don't think that anyone has been putting you down for your attempts at Atkins. There are many here
that have tried Atkins, myself included, and don't feel that it is a good choice of diet. We are
just trying to let you know what some of the pitfalls of Atkins are.

"Anglea Woollcombe" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> the only reason i stated that is that it seems alot lately that no matter what i say on this news
> group or others i get put down for it. and as a kid growing up i have heard all the comments about
> being over weight or being teased because i am different so what if i am we all are different
> thats what make us special angie "Just Me" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:mLUJb.16662$FN.8053@newsfep4-
> winn.server.ntli.net...
> > I was in no way implying you were looking for a quick fix, I hope I
didn't
> > upset you. Most of the people I have 'met' through ASDWW seem to be really
sensible.
> >
> > Jane
> >
> > "Anglea Woollcombe" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > news:[email protected]...
> > > i am not looking for any quick fixes i know that losing weight takes
> time
> > > ,and i am in no way rushing things i take them one day at a time. "Just Me"
> > > <[email protected]> wrote in message news:JiSJb.16511$526.110254@newsfep4-
> > > glfd.server.ntli.net...
> > > > > I just worry about people who are looking for a quick fix because they want to lose the
> > > > > weight "today".
> > > >
> > > > A FOAF was complaining to me the other day that "everyone else has
got
> > > this
> > > > sickness bug except me" I asked why she was complaining and she told
> me
> > > > "They're all losing weight without having to try"
> > > >
> > > > This is from the person who has tried every diet going - cabbage soup/WW/atkins etc. She
> > > > sticks to them for about a week, loses a few
> > > pounds
> > > > then decides it's not quick enough and stops for a while before
trying
> > the
> > > > next quick fix. She said to our mutual friend that she was jealous
> that
> > > I've
> > > > lost 60lb in the last year and she 'just can't'. She complained that
> the
> > > > average loss of just over a 1lb a week wasn't quick enough for her.
> > > >
> > > > She was then asked "Well who's the one 60lb down and who's the one
> still
> > > > moaning and weighing the same?"
> > > >
> > > > I felt very smug when my friend recounted the conversation to me!
> > > >
> > > > Jane
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
>
 
Angie, please don't think I'm picking on you ... cuz I'm not, am only questioning. Were those
original measurements taken just this past november ... like 6 weeks ago? If so, I'd love to know
how the heck you lost 49 inches from just the hip area in that amount of time ... without having
horribly sagging skin! I do wonder if you have the first set of numbers wrong though - since you say
you have lost 30 pounds (which IS fantastic). I would think that amount of measurement difference
would equate to a much larger weightloss - heck, you've lost 49 inches from your hips alone! At my
heaviest point, 98 pounds ago, my hips were 46 - now at 130 are
35.5. According to your stated measurements, you show a loss of 191 inches. All you have to do to
figure this is to add all the measurements taken at each date, then subtract the two
numbers. (Nov. 30 measurements = 417 inches, Jan 6 measurements = 226 inches). Regardless,
congrats on the NSV!

That is good logic though that you are using on the donut control. Sometimes knowing we do have to
pay for an item will definitely change our way of thinking, as well as making the item much less
attractive. I do hope this works for you!

Joyce

On Thu, 8 Jan 2004 08:18:41 -0500, "Anglea Woollcombe" <[email protected]> wrote:

>still working on not eating the donuts. i am hopefully going to changing to shift work so it will
>get better , because there is mangement on and they make u pay for things. while u work. so knowing
>that i have to pay for every donut that i eat then i won't eat them. hey maybe i should start
>thinking that way now. it might help. i am working an evening shift tomorrow night instead of an
>over night so i'll do better tomorrow. keep your fingures crossed. also i like your saying. i'll
>have to write that one in my journal. i had an NSV yesterday. I measured myself which i hadn't done
>since nov 30 and there is a big change there.
>
>Measurements taken Nov 30
>
> hips 85 inches chest 81 inches waist 95 inches uper arms left 27 inches right 27 inches thighs
> left 51 inches right 51 inches
>
> Jan 6/04
>
> measurements: hips 36 inches chest 35 inches waist 35 inches thighs right 50 inches left 50
> inches arms left 10 inches right 10 inches
>
> I am trying to figure out how many inches i have lost but am not sure how to any one have any
> ideas or can figure this out for me would be great full angie "Celtic Gal (Vanessa)"
> <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected]...
> :)
> Good for you Angie! Did you survive the night at work? I sure hope so. I don't think I could.
> Maybe working at Subway would be better, LOL....... Seriously though, best of luck to you.
> Resisting the things you like can be very difficult. Keep trying, you will succeed. Something
> else to consider every time you are tempted is this SIG line someone used to use "Nothing tastes
> as good, as being thin feels" food for though huh? Vanessa In OZ :) (273-212- goal 160)
>
> "Anglea Woollcombe" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]... thank you for ur confidence. i have gone
> without eating any donuts now for almost two days. tonight will be the altimate challenge when
> i go to work. i know that i can do this. thanks again angie "Celtic Gal (Vanessa)"
> <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected]... Good luck
> resisting those temptations Angela, cause it sure isn't easy. I am a carb addict, but I also
> have an intolerance to bread,pasta etc. and when I eat it, my body swells up and I go into an
> all out binge fest, carb, sugar, carb....... Have you tried really monitoring how you feel
> after you eat just one cookie or doughnut? I bet you get cranky, feel tired and lose energy
> (after the initial "High"). If you feel like this, then something has to "click" and you need
> to work your butt off to get over the carbs calling your name <G>. I know it's hard, but it can
> be done. Vanessa In OZ :) Overall (Was 273- Current 212- Goal 160 to 140) "Anglea Woollcombe"
> <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]... i'm not the only one who has had a hard
> start to atkins. i have heard of others. i have almost given up the things that i have been
> having trouble with. i'm trying one more time tonight. at work. you try working where you r
> tempted by so much, this is the final time i am retrying. i know that i can do weight watchers
> i have lost 30lbs so far with it. i can do atkins just need to work at it. angie "ray miller"
> <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected]...
> > On Sat, 03 Jan 2004 15:40:48 GMT, "Laura" <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > >If someone can't follow the WW diet then how are they going to follow the Atkins
> diet?
> >
> > I agree wholeheartedly with this.
> >
> > And Angela, You seem to be having a really hard time getting started on Atkins. If it's
> > so hard is it really for you?
> >
> > AIUI on Atkins you must limit carbs to almost nothing for a week or so to change your
> > metabolism to ketosis. Every time you eat too many carbs, your body comes out of ketosis
> > and you are back to square one. Ketosis is the whole point of Atkins. If you can't get
> > into ketosis and stay there it's pointless trying to cut out carbs.
> >
> > I like the idea of a balanced diet, but maybe with a bit more protein than 'normal' - 25-
> > 30% instead of 20%, hopefully at the expense of fat rather than carbs.
> >
> > ATkins is not something I'd want to do for any length of time, and it's something I'd
> > hate to do 'cos I'd have to give up rice and pasta (and squash, and potatoes, and ...)
> >
> > Ray
> > --
> > rmnsuk overall - 273/210/182
 
On Thu, 8 Jan 2004 08:20:26 -0800, "Chrys" <[email protected]> wrote:

>"Joyce" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected]...
>> Angie, please don't think I'm picking on you ... cuz I'm not, am only
>questioning.
>> Were those original measurements taken just this past november ... like
>6 weeks
>> ago? If so, I'd love to know how the heck you lost 49 inches from just
>the hip
>> area in that amount of time ... without having horribly sagging skin! I
>do wonder
>> if you have the first set of numbers wrong though - since you say you
>have lost 30
>> pounds (which IS fantastic). I would think that amount of measurement
>difference
>> would equate to a much larger weightloss - heck, you've lost 49 inches
>from your
>> hips alone! At my heaviest point, 98 pounds ago, my hips were 46 - now
>at 130 are
>> 35.5. According to your stated measurements, you show a loss of 191
>inches. All
>> you have to do to figure this is to add all the measurements taken at
>each date,
>> then subtract the two numbers. (Nov. 30 measurements = 417 inches, Jan
>6
>> measurements = 226 inches). Regardless, congrats on the NSV!
>
>I think she must be using centimeters in one set of measurments, either that or was holding the
>tape measure reversed. There's no way anyone could lose four feet off their measurements.

I never thought of those possibilities. My guess would have to be the centimeters, only because my
cloth tape measure only goes to 60 inches. <G> And my steel tape measures are impossible to get
backwards. <G>

Joyce
 
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:)
Good for you Angie! Did you survive the night at work? I sure hope so. I don't think I could. Maybe
working at Subway would be better, LOL....... Seriously though, best of luck to you. Resisting the
things you like can be very difficult. Keep trying, you will succeed. Something else to consider
every time you are tempted is this SIG line = someone used to use "Nothing tastes as good, as being
thin feels" food = for though huh?=20 Vanessa In OZ :) (273-212- goal 160)

"Anglea Woollcombe" <[email protected]> wrote in message =
news:[email protected]... thank you for ur confidence. i have gone
without eating any donuts now = for almost two days. tonight will be the altimate challenge when i
go to = work. i know that i can do this. thanks again angie "Celtic Gal (Vanessa)"
<[email protected]> wrote in = message news:[email protected]... Good luck
resisting those temptations Angela, cause it sure isn't = easy. I am a carb addict, but I also
have an intolerance to bread,pasta = etc. and when I eat it, my body swells up and I go into an
all out binge = fest, carb, sugar, carb....... Have you tried really monitoring how you feel after
you eat just one = cookie or doughnut? I bet you get cranky, feel tired and lose energy = (after
the initial "High"). If you feel like this, then something has to = "click" and you need to work
your butt off to get over the carbs calling = your name <G>. I know it's hard, but it can be done.
Vanessa In OZ :) Overall (Was 273- Current 212- Goal 160 to 140) "Anglea Woollcombe"
<[email protected]> wrote in message =
news:[email protected]... i'm not the only one who has had a hard
start to atkins. i have = heard of others. i have almost given up the things that i have been
having = trouble with. i'm trying one more time tonight. at work. you try working = where you r
tempted by so much, this is the final time i am retrying. i know that i can do = weight watchers i
have lost 30lbs so far with it. i can do atkins just = need to work at it. angie "ray miller"
<[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected]...
> On Sat, 03 Jan 2004 15:40:48 GMT, "Laura" =
<[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
> >If someone can't follow the WW diet then how are they going to follow the =
Atkins diet?
>
> I agree wholeheartedly with this.
>
> And Angela, You seem to be having a really hard time getting =
started
> on Atkins. If it's so hard is it really for you?
>
> AIUI on Atkins you must limit carbs to almost nothing for a week =
or so
> to change your metabolism to ketosis. Every time you eat too =
many
> carbs, your body comes out of ketosis and you are back to square =
one.
> Ketosis is the whole point of Atkins. If you can't get into =
ketosis
> and stay there it's pointless trying to cut out carbs.
>
> I like the idea of a balanced diet, but maybe with a bit more =
protein
> than 'normal' - 25-30% instead of 20%, hopefully at the expense =
of fat
> rather than carbs.
>
> ATkins is not something I'd want to do for any length of time, =
and
> it's something I'd hate to do 'cos I'd have to give up rice and =
pasta
> (and squash, and potatoes, and ...)
>
> Ray
> --
> rmnsuk overall - 273/210/182

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<><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#800080>Good luck resisting those = temptations=20 Angela, cause it
sure isn't easy.</FONT></DIV>
<><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#800080>I am a carb addict, but I = also have an=20 intolerance to
bread,pasta etc. and when I eat it, my body swells=20 up and I go into an all out binge
fest, carb, sugar,=20 carb.......</FONT></DIV>
<><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#800080>Have you tried really = monitoring how you=20 feel after
you eat just one cookie or doughnut? I bet you get = cranky, feel=20 tired and lose energy
(after the initial "High"). If you feel like = this,=20 then something has to "click" and you
need to work your butt off to = get over=20 the carbs calling your name
<G>.</FONT></DIV>
<><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#800080>I know it's hard, but it can = be=20 done.</FONT></DIV>
<>Vanessa In OZ :)<BR>Overall (Was 273- Current 212- Goal 160 to =

140)</DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE=20 style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =
BORDER-LEFT: #800080 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
<DIV>"Anglea Woollcombe" <<A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</A>>=
=20
wrote in message <A=20
=
href=3D"news:[email protected]">news:rMCJb.20=
[email protected]</A>...</DIV>i'm=20 not the only one who has had a hard start
to atkins. i have heard=20 of<BR>others. i have almost given up the things that i have been =
having=20 trouble<BR>with. i'm trying one more time tonight. at work. you = try=20 working where you
r<BR>tempted by so much,<BR> this is = the=20 final time i am retrying. i know that i
can do weight<BR>watchers = i have=20 lost 30lbs so far with it. i can do atkins just need to
work<BR>at =

it.<BR>angie<BR>"ray miller" <<A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</A>>=
=20
wrote in message<BR><A=20
=
href=3D"news:[email protected]">news:5krdvv0uido=
[email protected]</A>...<BR>>=20 On Sat, 03 Jan 2004 15:40:48 GMT,
"Laura" <<A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</A>><BR>= >=20
wrote:<BR>><BR>> >If someone<BR>> >can't follow the = WW diet=20 then how are they
going to follow the = Atkins<BR>diet?<BR>><BR>> I=20 agree wholeheartedly with
this.<BR>><BR>> And Angela, You = seem to be=20 having a really hard time getting
started<BR>> on Atkins. If = it's so=20 hard is it really for you?<BR>><BR>> AIUI on Atkins
you must = limit=20 carbs to almost nothing for a week or so<BR>> to change your = metabolism=20
to ketosis. Every time you eat too many<BR>> carbs, your body = comes out=20 of ketosis and you
are back to square one.<BR>> Ketosis is the = whole=20 point of Atkins. If you can't get into
ketosis<BR>> and stay = there it's=20 pointless trying to cut out carbs.<BR>><BR>> I like
the idea = of a=20 balanced diet, but maybe with a bit more protein<BR>> than = 'normal' -=20 25-
30% instead of 20%, hopefully at the expense of fat<BR>> = rather than=20 carbs.<BR>><BR>>
ATkins is not something I'd want to do for = any=20 length of time, and<BR>> it's something I'd
hate to do 'cos I'd = have to=20 give up rice and pasta<BR>> (and squash, and potatoes, and=20
...)<BR>><BR>> Ray<BR>> --<BR>> rmnsuk<BR>> overall = -=20
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"Joyce" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> Angie, please don't think I'm picking on you ... cuz I'm not, am only
questioning.
> Were those original measurements taken just this past november ... like
6 weeks
> ago? If so, I'd love to know how the heck you lost 49 inches from just
the hip
> area in that amount of time ... without having horribly sagging skin! I
do wonder
> if you have the first set of numbers wrong though - since you say you
have lost 30
> pounds (which IS fantastic). I would think that amount of measurement
difference
> would equate to a much larger weightloss - heck, you've lost 49 inches
from your
> hips alone! At my heaviest point, 98 pounds ago, my hips were 46 - now
at 130 are
> 35.5. According to your stated measurements, you show a loss of 191
inches. All
> you have to do to figure this is to add all the measurements taken at
each date,
> then subtract the two numbers. (Nov. 30 measurements = 417 inches, Jan
6
> measurements = 226 inches). Regardless, congrats on the NSV!

I think she must be using centimeters in one set of measurments, either that or was holding the tape
measure reversed. There's no way anyone could lose four feet off their measurements.
 
> >I think she must be using centimeters in one set of measurments, either that or was holding the
> >tape measure reversed. There's no way anyone could lose four feet off their measurements.
>
> I never thought of those possibilities. My guess would have to be the centimeters, only because my
> cloth tape measure only goes to 60 inches. <G> And my steel tape measures are impossible to get
> backwards. <G>
>
> Joyce
> >

I have two cloth tapes that run to 120". Very useful for measuring garment length on tall customers!
Especially on people like my nearly 6 ft tall sister, who had a demi train on her last party frock!

As for going round bigger customers... Well, they are good for that too! Taping two together seems
cruel, somehow. The metal ones are ok for measuring carpets and curtains!
--

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still working on not eating the donuts. i am hopefully going to changing = to shift work so it will
get better , because there is mangement on and = they make u pay for things. while u work. so
knowing that i have to pay = for every donut that i eat then i won't eat them. hey maybe i should =
start thinking that way now. it might help. i am working an evening = shift tomorrow night instead
of an over night so i'll do better = tomorrow. keep your fingures crossed. also i like your saying.
i'll have = to write that one in my journal.=20 i had an NSV yesterday. I measured myself which i
hadn't done since = nov 30 and there is a big change there.=20

Measurements taken Nov 30

hips 85 inches chest 81 inches waist 95 inches uper arms left 27 inches right 27 inches thighs
left 51 inches right 51 inches

Jan 6/04

measurements: hips 36 inches chest 35 inches waist 35 inches thighs right 50 inches left 50 inches
arms left 10 inches right 10 inches

I am trying to figure out how many inches i have lost but am not sure = how to any one have any
ideas or can figure this out for me would be = great full angie "Celtic Gal (Vanessa)"
<[email protected]> wrote in message = news:[email protected]...
:)
Good for you Angie! Did you survive the night at work? I sure hope so. I don't think I could.
Maybe working at Subway would be better, LOL....... Seriously though, best of luck to you.
Resisting the things you like can be very difficult. Keep trying, you will succeed. Something else
to consider every time you are tempted is this SIG line = someone used to use "Nothing tastes as
good, as being thin feels" food = for though huh?=20 Vanessa In OZ :) (273-212- goal 160)

"Anglea Woollcombe" <[email protected]> wrote in message =
news:[email protected]... thank you for ur confidence. i have gone
without eating any donuts = now for almost two days. tonight will be the altimate challenge when
i = go to work. i know that i can do this. thanks again angie "Celtic Gal (Vanessa)"
<[email protected]> wrote in = message news:[email protected]... Good
luck resisting those temptations Angela, cause it sure isn't = easy. I am a carb addict, but I
also have an intolerance to bread,pasta = etc. and when I eat it, my body swells up and I go
into an all out binge = fest, carb, sugar, carb....... Have you tried really monitoring how you
feel after you eat just = one cookie or doughnut? I bet you get cranky, feel tired and lose
energy = (after the initial "High"). If you feel like this, then something has to = "click" and
you need to work your butt off to get over the carbs calling = your name <G>. I know it's hard,
but it can be done. Vanessa In OZ :) Overall (Was 273- Current 212- Goal 160 to 140) "Anglea
Woollcombe" <[email protected]> wrote in message =
news:[email protected]... i'm not the only one who has had a hard
start to atkins. i have = heard of others. i have almost given up the things that i have been =
having trouble with. i'm trying one more time tonight. at work. you try working = where you r
tempted by so much, this is the final time i am retrying. i know that i can do = weight watchers
i have lost 30lbs so far with it. i can do atkins just = need to work at it. angie "ray miller"
<[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected]...
> On Sat, 03 Jan 2004 15:40:48 GMT, "Laura" =
<[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
> >If someone can't follow the WW diet then how are they going to follow =
the Atkins diet?
>
> I agree wholeheartedly with this.
>
> And Angela, You seem to be having a really hard time getting =
started
> on Atkins. If it's so hard is it really for you?
>
> AIUI on Atkins you must limit carbs to almost nothing for a =
week or so
> to change your metabolism to ketosis. Every time you eat too =
many
> carbs, your body comes out of ketosis and you are back to =
square one.
> Ketosis is the whole point of Atkins. If you can't get into =
ketosis
> and stay there it's pointless trying to cut out carbs.
>
> I like the idea of a balanced diet, but maybe with a bit more =
protein
> than 'normal' - 25-30% instead of 20%, hopefully at the =
expense of fat
> rather than carbs.
>
> ATkins is not something I'd want to do for any length of time, =
and
> it's something I'd hate to do 'cos I'd have to give up rice =
and pasta
> (and squash, and potatoes, and ...)
>
> Ray
> --
> rmnsuk overall - 273/210/182

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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>still working on not eating the donuts. = i am=20 hopefully going
to changing to shift work so it will get better , = because=20 there is mangement on and
they make u pay for things. while u work. so = knowing=20 that i have to pay for every donut
that i eat then i won't eat them. hey = maybe i=20 should start thinking that way now. it might
help. i am working an = evening shift=20 tomorrow night instead of an over night so i'll do
better tomorrow. keep = your=20 fingures crossed. also i like your saying. i'll have to write
that one = in my=20 journal. </FONT></DIV>
<><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2> i had an NSV yesterday. I = measured myself=20 which i
hadn't done since nov 30 and there is a big change there. = </FONT></DIV>
<><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Measurements taken Nov = 30</FONT></DIV>
<><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2> hips 85 = inches</FONT></DIV>
<><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>chest 81 inches</FONT></DIV>
<><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2> waist 95 = inches</FONT></DIV>
<><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2> uper arms left 27=20 inches</FONT></DIV>
<><FONT face=3DArial=20
size=3D2> &nbs=
p; right =20 27 inches</FONT></DIV>
<><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2> = thighs =20 left 51
inches</FONT></DIV>
<><FONT face=3DArial=20
size=3D2> &nbs=
p; =20 right 51 inches</FONT></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE dir=3Dltr=20 style=3D"PADDING-
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<><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Jan 6/04</FONT></DIV>
<><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>measurements:</FONT></DIV>
<><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>hips 36 inches</FONT></DIV>
<><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>chest 35 inches</FONT></DIV>
<><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>waist 35 inches</FONT></DIV>
<><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>thighs right 50 = inches</FONT></DIV>
<><FONT face=3DArial=20 size=3D2> =20
left 50 inches</FONT></DIV>
<><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>arms = left 10=20 inches</FONT></DIV>
<><FONT face=3DArial=20
=
size=3D2> &nbs= p;right =20 10
inches</FONT></DIV>
<><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I am trying to figure out how many = inches i have=20 lost but am
not sure how to any one have any ideas or can figure = this=20 out for me would be great
full</FONT></DIV>
<><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>angie</FONT></DIV>
<>"Celtic Gal (Vanessa)" <<A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</=
A>>=20
wrote in message <A=20
=
href=3D"news:[email protected]">news:[email protected]= .com.au</A>...</DIV>
<><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#800080>:)</FONT></DIV>
<><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#800080>Good for you = Angie!</FONT></DIV>
<><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#800080>Did you survive the night at = work? I sure=20 hope
so.</FONT></DIV>
<><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#800080>I don't think I = could.</FONT></DIV>
<><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#800080>Maybe working at Subway would = be better,=20
LOL.......</FONT></DIV>
<><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#800080>Seriously though, best of luck = to=20 you.</FONT></DIV>
<><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#800080>Resisting the things you like = can be very=20
difficult.</FONT></DIV>
<><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#800080>Keep trying, you will=20 succeed.</FONT></DIV>
<><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#800080>Something else to consider = every=20 time you are
tempted is this SIG line someone used to use <FONT=20 color=3D#ff0000><STRONG><EM>"Nothing
tastes as good, as being thin=20 feels"</EM></STRONG></FONT> food for though =
huh?</FONT> <BR>Vanessa In OZ=20
:)<BR>(273-212- goal 160)<BR></DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE dir=3Dltr=20 style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; = BORDER-
LEFT: #800080 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
<>"Anglea Woollcombe" <<A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</A>>=
=20
wrote in message <A=20
=
href=3D"news:[email protected]">news:hPkKb.2921$=
[email protected]</A>...</DIV>
<><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>thank you for ur confidence. i have = gone=20 without eating any
donuts now for almost two days. tonight will be = the=20 altimate challenge when i go to work.
i know that i can do this. = thanks=20 again</FONT></DIV>
<><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>angie</FONT></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE dir=3Dltr=20 style=3D"PADDING-
RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; = BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-
RIGHT: 0px">
<>"Celtic Gal (Vanessa)" <<A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</=
A>>=20
wrote in message <A=20
=
href=3D"news:[email protected]">news:[email protected]= .com.au</A>...</DIV>
<><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#800080>Good luck resisting those = temptations=20 Angela, cause
it sure isn't easy.</FONT></DIV>
<><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#800080>I am a carb addict, but I = also have an=20 intolerance
to bread,pasta etc. and when I eat it, my body swells=20 up and I go into an all out
binge fest, carb, sugar,=20 carb.......</FONT></DIV>
<><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#800080>Have you tried really = monitoring how=20 you feel after
you eat just one cookie or doughnut? I bet you get = cranky,=20 feel tired and lose energy
(after the initial "High"). If you feel = like=20 this, then something has to "click" and
you need to work your butt = off to=20 get over the carbs calling your name
<G>.</FONT></DIV>
<><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#800080>I know it's hard, but it = can be=20 done.</FONT></DIV>
<>Vanessa In OZ :)<BR>Overall (Was 273- Current 212- Goal 160 = to=20
140)</DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE=20 style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =
BORDER-LEFT: #800080 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
<DIV>"Anglea Woollcombe" <<A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</A>>=
=20
wrote in message <A=20
=
href=3D"news:[email protected]">news:rMCJb.20=
[email protected]</A>...</DIV>i'm=20 not the only one who has had a hard start
to atkins. i have = heard=20 of<BR>others. i have almost given up the things that i have been =
having=20 trouble<BR>with. i'm trying one more time tonight. at work. you = try=20 working where you
r<BR>tempted by so much,<BR> this = is the=20 final time i am retrying. i know that i
can do = weight<BR>watchers i have=20 lost 30lbs so far with it. i can do atkins just need to =
work<BR>at=20 it.<BR>angie<BR>"ray miller" <<A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</A>>=
=20
wrote in message<BR><A=20
=
href=3D"news:[email protected]">news:5krdvv0uido=
[email protected]</A>...<BR>>=20 On Sat, 03 Jan 2004 15:40:48 GMT,
"Laura" <<A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</A>><BR>= >=20
wrote:<BR>><BR>> >If someone<BR>> >can't follow = the WW=20 diet then how are they
going to follow the=20 Atkins<BR>diet?<BR>><BR>> I agree wholeheartedly with=20
this.<BR>><BR>> And Angela, You seem to be having a really = hard=20 time getting
started<BR>> on Atkins. If it's so hard is it = really for=20 you?<BR>><BR>> AIUI on Atkins
you must limit carbs to = almost=20 nothing for a week or so<BR>> to change your metabolism to =
ketosis.=20 Every time you eat too many<BR>> carbs, your body comes out = of=20 ketosis and you
are back to square one.<BR>> Ketosis is the = whole=20 point of Atkins. If you can't get into
ketosis<BR>> and stay = there=20 it's pointless trying to cut out carbs.<BR>><BR>> I like =
the idea=20 of a balanced diet, but maybe with a bit more protein<BR>> = than=20 'normal' - 25-
30% instead of 20%, hopefully at the expense of=20 fat<BR>> rather than carbs.<BR>><BR>>
ATkins is not = something=20 I'd want to do for any length of time, and<BR>> it's = something
I'd=20 hate to do 'cos I'd have to give up rice and pasta<BR>> (and = squash,=20 and potatoes,
and ...)<BR>><BR>> Ray<BR>> --<BR>>=20 rmnsuk<BR>> overall -=20
=
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Hi Angie :) This is fantastic! You must be doing something right to have lost all those inches. =
Congrats!!! Do you have Excel program? I can do a spreadsheet for you... Vanessa In OZ :) Overall
(Was 273- Current 212- Goal 160)

"Anglea Woollcombe" <[email protected]> wrote in message =
news:[email protected]... still working on not eating the donuts. i am
hopefully going to = changing to shift work so it will get better , because there is = mangement
on and they make u pay for things. while u work. so knowing = that i have to pay for every donut
that i eat then i won't eat them. hey = maybe i should start thinking that way now. it might help.
i am working = an evening shift tomorrow night instead of an over night so i'll do = better
tomorrow. keep your fingures crossed. also i like your saying. = i'll have to write that one in my
journal.=20 i had an NSV yesterday. I measured myself which i hadn't done since = nov 30 and there
is a big change there.=20

Measurements taken Nov 30

hips 85 inches chest 81 inches waist 95 inches uper arms left 27 inches right 27 inches thighs
left 51 inches right 51 inches

Jan 6/04

measurements: hips 36 inches chest 35 inches waist 35 inches thighs right 50 inches left 50
inches arms left 10 inches right 10 inches

I am trying to figure out how many inches i have lost but am not = sure how to any one have any
ideas or can figure this out for me would = be great full angie "Celtic Gal (Vanessa)"
<[email protected]> wrote in = message news:[email protected]...
:)
Good for you Angie! Did you survive the night at work? I sure hope so. I don't think I
could. Maybe working at Subway would be better, LOL....... Seriously though, best of luck to
you. Resisting the things you like can be very difficult. Keep trying, you will succeed.
Something else to consider every time you are tempted is this SIG = line someone used to use
"Nothing tastes as good, as being thin feels" = food for though huh?=20 Vanessa In OZ :)
(273-212- goal 160)

"Anglea Woollcombe" <[email protected]> wrote in message =
news:[email protected]... thank you for ur confidence. i have gone
without eating any donuts = now for almost two days. tonight will be the altimate challenge
when i = go to work. i know that i can do this. thanks again angie "Celtic Gal (Vanessa)"
<[email protected]> wrote in = message news:[email protected]... Good
luck resisting those temptations Angela, cause it sure = isn't easy. I am a carb addict, but I
also have an intolerance to = bread,pasta etc. and when I eat it, my body swells up and I go
into an = all out binge fest, carb, sugar, carb....... Have you tried really monitoring how
you feel after you eat just = one cookie or doughnut? I bet you get cranky, feel tired and
lose energy = (after the initial "High"). If you feel like this, then something has to =
"click" and you need to work your butt off to get over the carbs calling = your name <G>. I
know it's hard, but it can be done. Vanessa In OZ :) Overall (Was 273- Current 212- Goal 160
to 140) "Anglea Woollcombe" <[email protected]> wrote in = message
news:[email protected]... i'm not the only one who has had a hard
start to atkins. i = have heard of others. i have almost given up the things that i have been
= having trouble with. i'm trying one more time tonight. at work. you try = working where you
r tempted by so much, this is the final time i am retrying. i know that i can do = weight
watchers i have lost 30lbs so far with it. i can do atkins = just need to work at it. angie
"ray miller" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On Sat, 03 Jan 2004 15:40:48 GMT, "Laura" =
<[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
> >If someone can't follow the WW diet then how are they going to follow =
the Atkins diet?
>
> I agree wholeheartedly with this.
>
> And Angela, You seem to be having a really hard time getting =
started
> on Atkins. If it's so hard is it really for you?
>
> AIUI on Atkins you must limit carbs to almost nothing for a =
week or so
> to change your metabolism to ketosis. Every time you eat too =
many
> carbs, your body comes out of ketosis and you are back to =
square one.
> Ketosis is the whole point of Atkins. If you can't get into =
ketosis
> and stay there it's pointless trying to cut out carbs.
>
> I like the idea of a balanced diet, but maybe with a bit =
more protein
> than 'normal' - 25-30% instead of 20%, hopefully at the =
expense of fat
> rather than carbs.
>
> ATkins is not something I'd want to do for any length of =
time, and
> it's something I'd hate to do 'cos I'd have to give up rice =
and pasta
> (and squash, and potatoes, and ...)
>
> Ray
> --
> rmnsuk overall - 273/210/182

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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#800080>Hi Angie :)</FONT></DIV>
<><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#800080>This is fantastic!</FONT></DIV>
<><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#800080>You must be doing something = right to have=20 lost all
those inches. Congrats!!!</FONT></DIV>
<><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#800080>Do you have Excel = program?</FONT></DIV>
<><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#800080>I can do a spreadsheet for=20 you...</FONT></DIV>
<>Vanessa In OZ :)<BR>Overall (Was 273- Current 212- Goal 160)</DIV>
<> </DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE dir=3Dltr=20 style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-
LEFT: 5px; = BORDER-LEFT: #800080 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
<>"Anglea Woollcombe" <<A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</A>>= wrote=20 in message <A=20
=
href=3D"news:[email protected]">news:bNcLb.70=
[email protected]</A>...</DIV>
<><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>still working on not eating the = donuts. i am=20 hopefully going to
changing to shift work so it will get better = ,=20 because there is mangement on and they
make u pay for things. while u = work. so=20 knowing that i have to pay for every donut that i
eat then i won't eat = them.=20 hey maybe i should start thinking that way now. it might help. i
am = working an=20 evening shift tomorrow night instead of an over night so i'll do = better=20
tomorrow. keep your fingures crossed. also i like your saying. i'll = have to=20 write that one
in my journal. </FONT></DIV>
<><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2> i had an NSV yesterday. I = measured myself=20 which i hadn't
done since nov 30 and there is a big change there.=20 </FONT></DIV>
<><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Measurements taken Nov = 30</FONT></DIV>
<><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2> hips 85 = inches</FONT></DIV>
<><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>chest 81 inches</FONT></DIV>
<><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2> waist 95 = inches</FONT></DIV>
<><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2> uper arms left 27=20 inches</FONT></DIV>
<><FONT face=3DArial=20
=
size=3D2> &nbs=
p; right =20 27 inches</FONT></DIV>
<><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2> = thighs =20 left 51
inches</FONT></DIV>
<><FONT face=3DArial=20
=
size=3D2> &nbs= p; =20
right 51 inches</FONT></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE dir=3Dltr=20 style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-
LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; = BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
<> </DIV>
<><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Jan 6/04</FONT></DIV>
<><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>measurements:</FONT></DIV>
<><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>hips 36 inches</FONT></DIV>
<><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>chest 35 inches</FONT></DIV>
<><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>waist 35 inches</FONT></DIV>
<><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>thighs right 50 = inches</FONT></DIV>
<><FONT face=3DArial=20
=
size=3D2> =20 left 50
inches</FONT></DIV>
<><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>arms = left 10=20
inches</FONT></DIV>
<><FONT face=3DArial=20
=
size=3D2> &nbs= p;right =20 10
inches</FONT></DIV>
<><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I am trying to figure out how many = inches i=20 have lost but am
not sure how to any one have any ideas or can = figure=20 this out for me would be great
full</FONT></DIV>
<><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>angie</FONT></DIV>
<>"Celtic Gal (Vanessa)" <<A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</=
A>>=20
wrote in message <A=20
=
href=3D"news:[email protected]">news:[email protected]= .com.au</A>...</DIV>
<><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#800080>:)</FONT></DIV>
<><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#800080>Good for you = Angie!</FONT></DIV>
<><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#800080>Did you survive the night at = work? I=20 sure hope
so.</FONT></DIV>
<><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#800080>I don't think I = could.</FONT></DIV>
<><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#800080>Maybe working at Subway = would be better,=20
LOL.......</FONT></DIV>
<><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#800080>Seriously though, best of = luck to=20 you.</FONT></DIV>
<><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#800080>Resisting the things you = like can be=20 very
difficult.</FONT></DIV>
<><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#800080>Keep trying, you will=20 succeed.</FONT></DIV>
<><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#800080>Something else to consider = every=20 time you are
tempted is this SIG line someone used to use <FONT =

color=3D#ff0000><STRONG><EM>"Nothing tastes as good, as being thin=20
feels"</EM></STRONG></FONT> food for though = huh?</FONT> <BR>Vanessa In=20 OZ :)<BR>(273-212-
goal 160)<BR></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE dir=3Dltr=20 style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-
LEFT: 5px; = BORDER-LEFT: #800080 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
<>"Anglea Woollcombe" <<A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</A>>=
=20
wrote in message <A=20
=
href=3D"news:[email protected]">news:hPkKb.2921$=
[email protected]</A>...</DIV>
<><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>thank you for ur confidence. i = have gone=20 without eating any
donuts now for almost two days. tonight will be = the=20 altimate challenge when i go to
work. i know that i can do this. = thanks=20 again</FONT></DIV>
<><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>angie</FONT></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE dir=3Dltr=20 style=3D"PADDING-
RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; = BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-
RIGHT: 0px">
<>"Celtic Gal (Vanessa)" <<A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</=
A>>=20
wrote in message <A=20
=
href=3D"news:[email protected]">news:[email protected]= .com.au</A>...</DIV>
<><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#800080>Good luck resisting = those=20 temptations Angela,
cause it sure isn't easy.</FONT></DIV>
<><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#800080>I am a carb addict, but = I also have=20 an intolerance
to bread,pasta etc. and when I eat it, my body = swells=20 up and I go into an all
out binge fest, carb, sugar,=20 carb.......</FONT></DIV>
<><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#800080>Have you tried really = monitoring how=20 you feel
after you eat just one cookie or doughnut? I bet you = get=20 cranky, feel tired and lose
energy (after the initial "High"). = If you=20 feel like this, then something has to
"click" and you need to = work your=20 butt off to get over the carbs calling your name =
<G>.</FONT></DIV>
<><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#800080>I know it's hard, but it = can be=20 done.</FONT></DIV>
<>Vanessa In OZ :)<BR>Overall (Was 273- Current 212- Goal = 160 to=20
140)</DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE=20 style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: =
5px; BORDER-LEFT: #800080 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
<DIV>"Anglea Woollcombe" <<A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</A>>=
=20
wrote in message <A=20
=
href=3D"news:[email protected]">news:rMCJb.20=
[email protected]</A>...</DIV>i'm=20 not the only one who has had a hard start
to atkins. i have = heard=20 of<BR>others. i have almost given up the things that i have = been=20
having trouble<BR>with. i'm trying one more time tonight. at = work. you=20 try working where you
r<BR>tempted by so much,<BR> = this is=20 the final time i am retrying. i know that i
can do = weight<BR>watchers=20 i have lost 30lbs so far with it. i can do atkins just need to =

work<BR>at it.<BR>angie<BR>"ray miller" <<A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</A>>=
=20
wrote in message<BR><A=20
=
href=3D"news:[email protected]">news:5krdvv0uido=
[email protected]</A>...<BR>>=20 On Sat, 03 Jan 2004 15:40:48 GMT,
"Laura" <<A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</A>><BR>= >=20
wrote:<BR>><BR>> >If someone<BR>> >can't follow = the WW=20 diet then how are they
going to follow the=20 Atkins<BR>diet?<BR>><BR>> I agree wholeheartedly with=20
this.<BR>><BR>> And Angela, You seem to be having a = really hard=20 time getting
started<BR>> on Atkins. If it's so hard is it = really=20 for you?<BR>><BR>> AIUI on Atkins
you must limit carbs = to almost=20 nothing for a week or so<BR>> to change your metabolism to =
ketosis.=20 Every time you eat too many<BR>> carbs, your body comes out = of=20 ketosis and you
are back to square one.<BR>> Ketosis is the = whole=20 point of Atkins. If you can't get into
ketosis<BR>> and = stay there=20 it's pointless trying to cut out carbs.<BR>><BR>> I like =
the=20 idea of a balanced diet, but maybe with a bit more = protein<BR>>=20 than 'normal' - 25-
30% instead of 20%, hopefully at the = expense of=20 fat<BR>> rather than carbs.<BR>><BR>>
ATkins is not = something=20 I'd want to do for any length of time, and<BR>> it's = something
I'd=20 hate to do 'cos I'd have to give up rice and pasta<BR>> = (and=20 squash, and potatoes,
and ...)<BR>><BR>> Ray<BR>> = --<BR>>=20 rmnsuk<BR>> overall -=20
=
273/210/182<BR><BR></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></=
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Angie,

I believe you just subtract the ending number from the starting number = to get your individual
total then add the totals together--if I'm wrong = someone correct me. EX: Hips 85-36=3D49 inches
lost, Chest 81-35=3D46 = inches lost, total for the two=3D95 inches. That seems like a lot of =
inches for only a little over a month, I might be doing this = wrong--either way if I'm doing it
wrong or not, that's great, = congratulations!!!

--=20 Janice
263/252/150 (maybe 130)

"Anglea Woollcombe" <[email protected]> wrote in message =
news:[email protected]... still working on not eating the donuts. i am
hopefully going to = changing to shift work so it will get better , because there is = mangement
on and they make u pay for things. while u work. so knowing = that i have to pay for every donut
that i eat then i won't eat them. hey = maybe i should start thinking that way now. it might help.
i am working = an evening shift tomorrow night instead of an over night so i'll do = better
tomorrow. keep your fingures crossed. also i like your saying. = i'll have to write that one in my
journal.=20 i had an NSV yesterday. I measured myself which i hadn't done since = nov 30 and there
is a big change there.=20

Measurements taken Nov 30

hips 85 inches chest 81 inches waist 95 inches uper arms left 27 inches right 27 inches thighs
left 51 inches right 51 inches

Jan 6/04

measurements: hips 36 inches chest 35 inches waist 35 inches thighs right 50 inches left 50
inches arms left 10 inches right 10 inches

I am trying to figure out how many inches i have lost but am not = sure how to any one have any
ideas or can figure this out for me would = be great full angie "Celtic Gal (Vanessa)"
<[email protected]> wrote in = message news:[email protected]...
:)
Good for you Angie! Did you survive the night at work? I sure hope so. I don't think I
could. Maybe working at Subway would be better, LOL....... Seriously though, best of luck to
you. Resisting the things you like can be very difficult. Keep trying, you will succeed.
Something else to consider every time you are tempted is this SIG = line someone used to use
"Nothing tastes as good, as being thin feels" = food for though huh?=20 Vanessa In OZ :)
(273-212- goal 160)

"Anglea Woollcombe" <[email protected]> wrote in message =
news:[email protected]... thank you for ur confidence. i have gone
without eating any donuts = now for almost two days. tonight will be the altimate challenge
when i = go to work. i know that i can do this. thanks again angie "Celtic Gal (Vanessa)"
<[email protected]> wrote in = message news:[email protected]... Good
luck resisting those temptations Angela, cause it sure = isn't easy. I am a carb addict, but I
also have an intolerance to = bread,pasta etc. and when I eat it, my body swells up and I go
into an = all out binge fest, carb, sugar, carb....... Have you tried really monitoring how
you feel after you eat just = one cookie or doughnut? I bet you get cranky, feel tired and
lose energy = (after the initial "High"). If you feel like this, then something has to =
"click" and you need to work your butt off to get over the carbs calling = your name <G>. I
know it's hard, but it can be done. Vanessa In OZ :) Overall (Was 273- Current 212- Goal 160
to 140) "Anglea Woollcombe" <[email protected]> wrote in = message
news:[email protected]... i'm not the only one who has had a hard
start to atkins. i = have heard of others. i have almost given up the things that i have been
= having trouble with. i'm trying one more time tonight. at work. you try = working where you
r tempted by so much, this is the final time i am retrying. i know that i can do = weight
watchers i have lost 30lbs so far with it. i can do atkins = just need to work at it. angie
"ray miller" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On Sat, 03 Jan 2004 15:40:48 GMT, "Laura" =
<[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
> >If someone can't follow the WW diet then how are they going to follow =
the Atkins diet?
>
> I agree wholeheartedly with this.
>
> And Angela, You seem to be having a really hard time getting =
started
> on Atkins. If it's so hard is it really for you?
>
> AIUI on Atkins you must limit carbs to almost nothing for a =
week or so
> to change your metabolism to ketosis. Every time you eat too =
many
> carbs, your body comes out of ketosis and you are back to =
square one.
> Ketosis is the whole point of Atkins. If you can't get into =
ketosis
> and stay there it's pointless trying to cut out carbs.
>
> I like the idea of a balanced diet, but maybe with a bit =
more protein
> than 'normal' - 25-30% instead of 20%, hopefully at the =
expense of fat
> rather than carbs.
>
> ATkins is not something I'd want to do for any length of =
time, and
> it's something I'd hate to do 'cos I'd have to give up rice =
and pasta
> (and squash, and potatoes, and ...)
>
> Ray
> --
> rmnsuk overall - 273/210/182

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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Angie,</FONT></DIV>
<><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I believe you just subtract the ending = number from=20 the
starting number to get your individual total then add the totals=20 together--if I'm wrong
someone correct me. EX: Hips 85-36=3D49 = inches lost,=20 Chest 81-35=3D46 inches lost,
total for the two=3D95 inches. That = seems like a=20 lot of inches for only a little
over a month, I might be doing this=20 wrong--either way if I'm doing it wrong or not, that's
great,=20 congratulations!!!</FONT></DIV>
<><BR>-- <BR>Janice<BR>263/252/150 (maybe 130)</DIV>
<> </DIV>
<> </DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE dir=3Dltr=20 style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-
LEFT: 5px; = BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
<>"Anglea Woollcombe" <<A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</A>>= wrote=20 in message <A=20
=
href=3D"news:[email protected]">news:bNcLb.70=
[email protected]</A>...</DIV>
<><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>still working on not eating the = donuts. i am=20 hopefully going to
changing to shift work so it will get better = ,=20 because there is mangement on and they
make u pay for things. while u = work. so=20 knowing that i have to pay for every donut that i
eat then i won't eat = them.=20 hey maybe i should start thinking that way now. it might help. i
am = working an=20 evening shift tomorrow night instead of an over night so i'll do = better=20
tomorrow. keep your fingures crossed. also i like your saying. i'll = have to=20 write that one
in my journal. </FONT></DIV>
<><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2> i had an NSV yesterday. I = measured myself=20 which i hadn't
done since nov 30 and there is a big change there.=20 </FONT></DIV>
<><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Measurements taken Nov = 30</FONT></DIV>
<><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2> hips 85 = inches</FONT></DIV>
<><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>chest 81 inches</FONT></DIV>
<><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2> waist 95 = inches</FONT></DIV>
<><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2> uper arms left 27=20 inches</FONT></DIV>
<><FONT face=3DArial=20
=
size=3D2> &nbs=
p; right =20 27 inches</FONT></DIV>
<><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2> = thighs =20 left 51
inches</FONT></DIV>
<><FONT face=3DArial=20
=
size=3D2> &nbs= p; =20
right 51 inches</FONT></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE dir=3Dltr=20 style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-
LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; = BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
<> </DIV>
<><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Jan 6/04</FONT></DIV>
<><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>measurements:</FONT></DIV>
<><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>hips 36 inches</FONT></DIV>
<><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>chest 35 inches</FONT></DIV>
<><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>waist 35 inches</FONT></DIV>
<><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>thighs right 50 = inches</FONT></DIV>
<><FONT face=3DArial=20
=
size=3D2> =20 left 50
inches</FONT></DIV>
<><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>arms = left 10=20
inches</FONT></DIV>
<><FONT face=3DArial=20
=
size=3D2> &nbs= p;right =20 10
inches</FONT></DIV>
<><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I am trying to figure out how many = inches i=20 have lost but am
not sure how to any one have any ideas or can = figure=20 this out for me would be great
full</FONT></DIV>
<><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>angie</FONT></DIV>
<>"Celtic Gal (Vanessa)" <<A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</=
A>>=20
wrote in message <A=20
=
href=3D"news:[email protected]">news:[email protected]= .com.au</A>...</DIV>
<><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#800080>:)</FONT></DIV>
<><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#800080>Good for you = Angie!</FONT></DIV>
<><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#800080>Did you survive the night at = work? I=20 sure hope
so.</FONT></DIV>
<><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#800080>I don't think I = could.</FONT></DIV>
<><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#800080>Maybe working at Subway = would be better,=20
LOL.......</FONT></DIV>
<><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#800080>Seriously though, best of = luck to=20 you.</FONT></DIV>
<><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#800080>Resisting the things you = like can be=20 very
difficult.</FONT></DIV>
<><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#800080>Keep trying, you will=20 succeed.</FONT></DIV>
<><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#800080>Something else to consider = every=20 time you are
tempted is this SIG line someone used to use <FONT =

color=3D#ff0000><STRONG><EM>"Nothing tastes as good, as being thin=20
feels"</EM></STRONG></FONT> food for though = huh?</FONT> <BR>Vanessa In=20 OZ :)<BR>(273-212-
goal 160)<BR></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE dir=3Dltr=20 style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-
LEFT: 5px; = BORDER-LEFT: #800080 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
<>"Anglea Woollcombe" <<A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</A>>=
=20
wrote in message <A=20
=
href=3D"news:[email protected]">news:hPkKb.2921$=
[email protected]</A>...</DIV>
<><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>thank you for ur confidence. i = have gone=20 without eating any
donuts now for almost two days. tonight will be = the=20 altimate challenge when i go to
work. i know that i can do this. = thanks=20 again</FONT></DIV>
<><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>angie</FONT></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE dir=3Dltr=20 style=3D"PADDING-
RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; = BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-
RIGHT: 0px">
<>"Celtic Gal (Vanessa)" <<A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</=
A>>=20
wrote in message <A=20
=
href=3D"news:[email protected]">news:[email protected]= .com.au</A>...</DIV>
<><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#800080>Good luck resisting = those=20 temptations Angela,
cause it sure isn't easy.</FONT></DIV>
<><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#800080>I am a carb addict, but = I also have=20 an intolerance
to bread,pasta etc. and when I eat it, my body = swells=20 up and I go into an all
out binge fest, carb, sugar,=20 carb.......</FONT></DIV>
<><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#800080>Have you tried really = monitoring how=20 you feel
after you eat just one cookie or doughnut? I bet you = get=20 cranky, feel tired and lose
energy (after the initial "High"). = If you=20 feel like this, then something has to
"click" and you need to = work your=20 butt off to get over the carbs calling your name =
<G>.</FONT></DIV>
<><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#800080>I know it's hard, but it = can be=20 done.</FONT></DIV>
<>Vanessa In OZ :)<BR>Overall (Was 273- Current 212- Goal = 160 to=20
140)</DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE=20 style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: =
5px; BORDER-LEFT: #800080 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
<DIV>"Anglea Woollcombe" <<A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</A>>=
=20
wrote in message <A=20
=
href=3D"news:[email protected]">news:rMCJb.20=
[email protected]</A>...</DIV>i'm=20 not the only one who has had a hard start
to atkins. i have = heard=20 of<BR>others. i have almost given up the things that i have = been=20
having trouble<BR>with. i'm trying one more time tonight. at = work. you=20 try working where you
r<BR>tempted by so much,<BR> = this is=20 the final time i am retrying. i know that i
can do = weight<BR>watchers=20 i have lost 30lbs so far with it. i can do atkins just need to =

work<BR>at it.<BR>angie<BR>"ray miller" <<A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</A>>=
=20
wrote in message<BR><A=20
=
href=3D"news:[email protected]">news:5krdvv0uido=
[email protected]</A>...<BR>>=20 On Sat, 03 Jan 2004 15:40:48 GMT,
"Laura" <<A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</A>><BR>= >=20
wrote:<BR>><BR>> >If someone<BR>> >can't follow = the WW=20 diet then how are they
going to follow the=20 Atkins<BR>diet?<BR>><BR>> I agree wholeheartedly with=20
this.<BR>><BR>> And Angela, You seem to be having a = really hard=20 time getting
started<BR>> on Atkins. If it's so hard is it = really=20 for you?<BR>><BR>> AIUI on Atkins
you must limit carbs = to almost=20 nothing for a week or so<BR>> to change your metabolism to =
ketosis.=20 Every time you eat too many<BR>> carbs, your body comes out = of=20 ketosis and you
are back to square one.<BR>> Ketosis is the = whole=20 point of Atkins. If you can't get into
ketosis<BR>> and = stay there=20 it's pointless trying to cut out carbs.<BR>><BR>> I like =
the=20 idea of a balanced diet, but maybe with a bit more = protein<BR>>=20 than 'normal' - 25-
30% instead of 20%, hopefully at the = expense of=20 fat<BR>> rather than carbs.<BR>><BR>>
ATkins is not = something=20 I'd want to do for any length of time, and<BR>> it's = something
I'd=20 hate to do 'cos I'd have to give up rice and pasta<BR>> = (and=20 squash, and potatoes,
and ...)<BR>><BR>> Ray<BR>> = --<BR>>=20 rmnsuk<BR>> overall -=20
=
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no i don't unfortunatly. not sure were to get it or if i could down load = it from some where. any
ideas. it makes me fell better seeing that i = have lost at least some where. would be nice if the
weight would start = to go again

angie "Celtic Gal (Vanessa)" <[email protected]> wrote in message =
news:[email protected]... Hi Angie :) This is fantastic! You must be doing something
right to have lost all those inches. = Congrats!!! Do you have Excel program? I can do a spreadsheet
for you... Vanessa In OZ :) Overall (Was 273- Current 212- Goal 160)

"Anglea Woollcombe" <[email protected]> wrote in message =
news:[email protected]... still working on not eating the donuts. i
am hopefully going to = changing to shift work so it will get better , because there is =
mangement on and they make u pay for things. while u work. so knowing = that i have to pay for
every donut that i eat then i won't eat them. hey = maybe i should start thinking that way now.
it might help. i am working = an evening shift tomorrow night instead of an over night so i'll
do = better tomorrow. keep your fingures crossed. also i like your saying. = i'll have to write
that one in my journal.=20 i had an NSV yesterday. I measured myself which i hadn't done = since
nov 30 and there is a big change there.=20

Measurements taken Nov 30

hips 85 inches chest 81 inches waist 95 inches uper arms left 27 inches right 27 inches thighs
left 51 inches right 51 inches

Jan 6/04

measurements: hips 36 inches chest 35 inches waist 35 inches thighs right 50 inches left 50
inches arms left 10 inches right 10 inches

I am trying to figure out how many inches i have lost but am not = sure how to any one have
any ideas or can figure this out for me would = be great full angie "Celtic Gal (Vanessa)"
<[email protected]> wrote in = message news:[email protected]...
:)
Good for you Angie! Did you survive the night at work? I sure hope so. I don't think I
could. Maybe working at Subway would be better, LOL....... Seriously though, best of luck to
you. Resisting the things you like can be very difficult. Keep trying, you will succeed.
Something else to consider every time you are tempted is this SIG = line someone used to use
"Nothing tastes as good, as being thin feels" = food for though huh?=20 Vanessa In OZ :)
(273-212- goal 160)

"Anglea Woollcombe" <[email protected]> wrote in message =
news:[email protected]... thank you for ur confidence. i have gone
without eating any = donuts now for almost two days. tonight will be the altimate challenge
= when i go to work. i know that i can do this. thanks again angie "Celtic Gal (Vanessa)"
<[email protected]> wrote in = message news:[email protected]... Good
luck resisting those temptations Angela, cause it sure = isn't easy. I am a carb addict, but
I also have an intolerance to = bread,pasta etc. and when I eat it, my body swells up and I
go into an = all out binge fest, carb, sugar, carb....... Have you tried really monitoring
how you feel after you eat = just one cookie or doughnut? I bet you get cranky, feel tired
and lose = energy (after the initial "High"). If you feel like this, then something = has to
"click" and you need to work your butt off to get over the carbs = calling your name <G>. I
know it's hard, but it can be done. Vanessa In OZ :) Overall (Was 273- Current 212- Goal
160 to 140) "Anglea Woollcombe" <[email protected]> wrote in = message
news:[email protected]... i'm not the only one who has had a
hard start to atkins. i = have heard of others. i have almost given up the things that i
have been = having trouble with. i'm trying one more time tonight. at work. you try =
working where you r tempted by so much, this is the final time i am retrying. i know that i
can = do weight watchers i have lost 30lbs so far with it. i can do atkins = just need to
work at it. angie "ray miller" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On Sat, 03 Jan 2004 15:40:48 GMT, "Laura" =
<[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
> >If someone can't follow the WW diet then how are they going to =
follow the Atkins diet?
>
> I agree wholeheartedly with this.
>
> And Angela, You seem to be having a really hard time =
getting started
> on Atkins. If it's so hard is it really for you?
>
> AIUI on Atkins you must limit carbs to almost nothing for =
a week or so
> to change your metabolism to ketosis. Every time you eat =
too many
> carbs, your body comes out of ketosis and you are back to =
square one.
> Ketosis is the whole point of Atkins. If you can't get =
into ketosis
> and stay there it's pointless trying to cut out carbs.
>
> I like the idea of a balanced diet, but maybe with a bit =
more protein
> than 'normal' - 25-30% instead of 20%, hopefully at the =
expense of fat
> rather than carbs.
>
> ATkins is not something I'd want to do for any length of =
time, and
> it's something I'd hate to do 'cos I'd have to give up =
rice and pasta
> (and squash, and potatoes, and ...)
>
> Ray
> --
> rmnsuk overall - 273/210/182

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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>no i don't unfortunatly. not sure were = to get it or=20 if i could
down load it from some where. any ideas. it makes me fell = better=20 seeing that i have lost
at least some where. would be nice if the = weight =20 would start to go
again</FONT></DIV>
<><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>angie</FONT></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE dir=3Dltr=20 style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT:
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<>"Celtic Gal (Vanessa)" <<A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</=
A>>=20
wrote in message <A=20
=
href=3D"news:[email protected]">news:[email protected]= .com.au</A>...</DIV>
<><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#800080>Hi Angie :)</FONT></DIV>
<><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#800080>This is = fantastic!</FONT></DIV>
<><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#800080>You must be doing something = right to have=20 lost all
those inches. Congrats!!!</FONT></DIV>
<><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#800080>Do you have Excel = program?</FONT></DIV>
<><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#800080>I can do a spreadsheet for=20 you...</FONT></DIV>
<>Vanessa In OZ :)<BR>Overall (Was 273- Current 212- Goal =
160)</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE dir=3Dltr=20 style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-
LEFT: 5px; = BORDER-LEFT: #800080 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
<>"Anglea Woollcombe" <<A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</A>>=
=20
wrote in message <A=20
=
href=3D"news:[email protected]">news:bNcLb.70=
[email protected]</A>...</DIV>
<><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>still working on not eating the = donuts. i am=20 hopefully going
to changing to shift work so it will get = better ,=20 because there is mangement on and
they make u pay for things. while = u work.=20 so knowing that i have to pay for every donut
that i eat then i = won't eat=20 them. hey maybe i should start thinking that way now. it
might help. = i am=20 working an evening shift tomorrow night instead of an over night so =
i'll do=20 better tomorrow. keep your fingures crossed. also i like your = saying. i'll=20
have to write that one in my journal. </FONT></DIV>
<><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2> i had an NSV yesterday. I = measured=20 myself which i
hadn't done since nov 30 and there is a big change = there.=20 </FONT></DIV>
<><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Measurements taken Nov = 30</FONT></DIV>
<><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2> hips 85 = inches</FONT></DIV>
<><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>chest 81 inches</FONT></DIV>
<><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2> waist 95 = inches</FONT></DIV>
<><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2> uper arms left 27 =

inches</FONT></DIV>
<><FONT face=3DArial=20
=
size=3D2> &nbs=
p; right =20 27 inches</FONT></DIV>
<><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2> =20 thighs left 51
inches</FONT></DIV>
<><FONT face=3DArial=20
=
size=3D2> &nbs= p; =20
right 51 inches</FONT></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE dir=3Dltr=20 style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-
LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; = BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
<> </DIV>
<><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Jan 6/04</FONT></DIV>
<><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>measurements:</FONT></DIV>
<><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>hips 36 inches</FONT></DIV>
<><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>chest 35 = inches</FONT></DIV>
<><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>waist 35 = inches</FONT></DIV>
<><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>thighs right 50 = inches</FONT></DIV>
<><FONT face=3DArial=20
=
size=3D2> =20 left 50
inches</FONT></DIV>
<><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>arms = left 10=20
inches</FONT></DIV>
<><FONT face=3DArial=20
=
size=3D2> &nbs= p;right =20 10
inches</FONT></DIV>
<><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I am trying to figure out how = many inches i=20 have lost but
am not sure how to any one have any ideas or = can=20 figure this out for me would be
great full</FONT></DIV>
<><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>angie</FONT></DIV>
<>"Celtic Gal (Vanessa)" <<A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</=
A>>=20
wrote in message <A=20
=
href=3D"news:[email protected]">news:[email protected]= .com.au</A>...</DIV>
<><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#800080>:)</FONT></DIV>
<><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#800080>Good for you = Angie!</FONT></DIV>
<><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#800080>Did you survive the night = at work? I=20 sure hope
so.</FONT></DIV>
<><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#800080>I don't think I = could.</FONT></DIV>
<><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#800080>Maybe working at Subway = would be=20 better,
LOL.......</FONT></DIV>
<><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#800080>Seriously though, best of = luck to=20 you.</FONT></DIV>
<><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#800080>Resisting the things you = like can be=20 very
difficult.</FONT></DIV>
<><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#800080>Keep trying, you will=20 succeed.</FONT></DIV>
<><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#800080>Something else to consider = every=20 time you are
tempted is this SIG line someone used to use = <FONT=20 color=3D#ff0000><STRONG><EM>"Nothing
tastes as good, as being thin =

feels"</EM></STRONG></FONT> food for though = huh?</FONT> <BR>Vanessa=20 In OZ :)<BR>(273-212-
goal 160)<BR></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE dir=3Dltr=20 style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px;
MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; = BORDER-LEFT: #800080 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
<>"Anglea Woollcombe" <<A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</A>>=
=20
wrote in message <A=20
=
href=3D"news:[email protected]">news:hPkKb.2921$=
[email protected]</A>...</DIV>
<><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>thank you for ur confidence. i = have gone=20 without eating
any donuts now for almost two days. tonight will = be the=20 altimate challenge when i go
to work. i know that i can do this. = thanks=20 again</FONT></DIV>
<><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>angie</FONT></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE dir=3Dltr=20 style=3D"PADDING-
RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: = 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-
RIGHT: 0px">
<>"Celtic Gal (Vanessa)" <<A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</=
A>>=20
wrote in message <A=20
=
href=3D"news:[email protected]">news:[email protected]= .com.au</A>...</DIV>
<><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#800080>Good luck resisting = those=20 temptations Angela,
cause it sure isn't easy.</FONT></DIV>
<><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#800080>I am a carb addict, = but I also=20 have an
intolerance to bread,pasta etc. and when I eat it, my = body=20 swells up and I go
into an all out binge fest, carb, = sugar,=20 carb.......</FONT></DIV>
<><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#800080>Have you tried really = monitoring=20 how you feel
after you eat just one cookie or doughnut? I bet = you get=20 cranky, feel tired and
lose energy (after the initial "High"). = If you=20 feel like this, then something has
to "click" and you need to = work=20 your butt off to get over the carbs calling your
name=20 <G>.</FONT></DIV>
<><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#800080>I know it's hard, but = it can be=20
done.</FONT></DIV>
<>Vanessa In OZ :)<BR>Overall (Was 273- Current 212- Goal = 160 to=20
140)</DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE=20 style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: =
5px; BORDER-LEFT: #800080 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
<DIV>"Anglea Woollcombe" <<A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</A>>=
=20
wrote in message <A=20
=
href=3D"news:[email protected]">news:rMCJb.20=
[email protected]</A>...</DIV>i'm=20 not the only one who has had a hard start
to atkins. i have = heard=20 of<BR>others. i have almost given up the things that i have = been=20
having trouble<BR>with. i'm trying one more time tonight. at = work.=20 you try working where you
r<BR>tempted by so = much,<BR> =20 this is the final time i am retrying. i know that i
can do=20 weight<BR>watchers i have lost 30lbs so far with it. i can = do atkins=20 just need to
work<BR>at it.<BR>angie<BR>"ray miller" <<A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</A>>=
=20
wrote in message<BR><A=20
=
href=3D"news:[email protected]">news:5krdvv0uido=
[email protected]</A>...<BR>>=20 On Sat, 03 Jan 2004 15:40:48 GMT,
"Laura" <<A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</A>><BR>= >=20
wrote:<BR>><BR>> >If someone<BR>> >can't = follow the=20 WW diet then how are they
going to follow the=20 Atkins<BR>diet?<BR>><BR>> I agree wholeheartedly with=20
this.<BR>><BR>> And Angela, You seem to be having a = really=20 hard time getting
started<BR>> on Atkins. If it's so hard = is it=20 really for you?<BR>><BR>> AIUI on Atkins
you must = limit carbs=20 to almost nothing for a week or so<BR>> to change your = metabolism=20
to ketosis. Every time you eat too many<BR>> carbs, your = body=20 comes out of ketosis and you
are back to square one.<BR>> = Ketosis=20 is the whole point of Atkins. If you can't get into =
ketosis<BR>>=20 and stay there it's pointless trying to cut out=20 carbs.<BR>><BR>> I like
the idea of a balanced diet, = but maybe=20 with a bit more protein<BR>> than 'normal' - 25-30% =
instead of=20 20%, hopefully at the expense of fat<BR>> rather than=20 carbs.<BR>><BR>>
ATkins is not something I'd want to = do for=20 any length of time, and<BR>> it's something I'd
hate to = do 'cos=20 I'd have to give up rice and pasta<BR>> (and squash, and=20 potatoes, and
...)<BR>><BR>> Ray<BR>> --<BR>>=20 rmnsuk<BR>> overall -=20
=
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On Fri, 09 Jan 2004 00:22:48 +0000, Kate Dicey <[email protected]>
wrote:

>
>> >I think she must be using centimeters in one set of measurments, either that or was holding the
>> >tape measure reversed. There's no way anyone could lose four feet off their measurements.
>>
>> I never thought of those possibilities. My guess would have to be the centimeters, only because
>> my cloth tape measure only goes to 60 inches. <G> And my steel tape measures are impossible to
>> get backwards. <G>
>>
>> Joyce
>> >
>
>I have two cloth tapes that run to 120". Very useful for measuring garment length on tall
>customers! Especially on people like my nearly 6 ft tall sister, who had a demi train on her last
>party frock!
>
>As for going round bigger customers... Well, they are good for that too! Taping two together seems
>cruel, somehow. The metal ones are ok for measuring carpets and curtains!

Ahhhhh, you are soooo right - I forgot all about the longer tapes for seamstresses. My mom used to
have one also. I tend to just buy what is easily found at wal-mart type stores ... 60 inches and
cheap. But then, I don't really need anything better! I would hate to have someone tape two measures
together if attempting to measure me. Very cruel indeed!

Thank you for correcting me though, I do appreciate it

Joyce
 
>> >I have two cloth tapes that run to 120". Very useful for measuring garment length on tall
>> >customers! Especially on people like my nearly 6 ft tall sister, who had a demi train on her
>> >last party frock!
>> >
>> >As for going round bigger customers... Well, they are good for that too! Taping two together
>> >seems cruel, somehow. The metal ones are ok for measuring carpets and curtains!
>>
>> Ahhhhh, you are soooo right - I forgot all about the longer tapes for seamstresses. My mom used
>> to have one also. I tend to just buy what is easily found at wal-mart type stores ... 60 inches
>> and cheap. But then, I don't really need anything better! I would hate to have someone tape two
>> measures together if attempting to measure me. Very cruel indeed!
>>
>> Thank you for correcting me though, I do appreciate it
>>
>> Joyce
>
>I got one of mine several years ago, but the new one is really dinky: it's a retractable one in a
>purple and pink case, and part of my son's Christmas present to me. Small enough and light enough
>to keep in my handbag!

Ya know, I just might have to look for a longer tape. I don't do much sewing anymore, but when I do
it usually is in the form of tablecloths or curtains ... where a longer tape would definitely be
more useful. I had a small/short retractable tape for my purse, dang thing seems to be hiding from
me these days.
<G>

Joyce
 
i actually measured wrong. i remeasured and i have however lost but will use
my new measurements and the redo it again in a couple of weeks.
angie
"Joyce" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Angie, please don't think I'm picking on you ... cuz I'm not, am only
questioning.
> Were those original measurements taken just this past november ... like 6
weeks
> ago? If so, I'd love to know how the heck you lost 49 inches from just
the hip
> area in that amount of time ... without having horribly sagging skin! I
do wonder
> if you have the first set of numbers wrong though - since you say you have
lost 30
> pounds (which IS fantastic). I would think that amount of measurement
difference
> would equate to a much larger weightloss - heck, you've lost 49 inches
from your
> hips alone! At my heaviest point, 98 pounds ago, my hips were 46 - now at
130 are
> 35.5. According to your stated measurements, you show a loss of 191
inches. All
> you have to do to figure this is to add all the measurements taken at each
date,
> then subtract the two numbers. (Nov. 30 measurements = 417 inches, Jan 6 measurements = 226
> inches). Regardless, congrats on the NSV!
>
> That is good logic though that you are using on the donut control.
Sometimes
> knowing we do have to pay for an item will definitely change our way of
thinking,
> as well as making the item much less attractive. I do hope this works for
you!
>
> Joyce
>
> On Thu, 8 Jan 2004 08:18:41 -0500, "Anglea Woollcombe"
<[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
> >still working on not eating the donuts. i am hopefully going to changing
to shift work so it will get better , because there is mangement on and they make u pay for things.
while u work. so knowing that i have to pay for every donut that i eat then i won't eat them. hey
maybe i should start thinking that way now. it might help. i am working an evening shift tomorrow
night instead of an over night so i'll do better tomorrow. keep your fingures crossed. also i like
your saying. i'll have to write that one in my journal.
> > i had an NSV yesterday. I measured myself which i hadn't done since nov
30 and there is a big change there.
> >
> >Measurements taken Nov 30
> >
> > hips 85 inches chest 81 inches waist 95 inches uper arms left 27 inches right 27 inches thighs
> > left 51 inches right 51 inches
> >
> > Jan 6/04
> >
> > measurements: hips 36 inches chest 35 inches waist 35 inches thighs right 50 inches left 50
> > inches arms left 10 inches right 10 inches
> >
> > I am trying to figure out how many inches i have lost but am not sure
how to any one have any ideas or can figure this out for me would be great full
> > angie "Celtic Gal (Vanessa)" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> > :)
> > Good for you Angie! Did you survive the night at work? I sure hope so. I don't think I could.
> > Maybe working at Subway would be better, LOL....... Seriously though, best of luck to you.
> > Resisting the things you like can be very difficult. Keep trying, you will succeed. Something
> > else to consider every time you are tempted is this SIG line
someone used to use "Nothing tastes as good, as being thin feels" food for though huh?
> > Vanessa In OZ :) (273-212- goal 160)
> >
> > "Anglea Woollcombe" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> > thank you for ur confidence. i have gone without eating any donuts
now for almost two days. tonight will be the altimate challenge when i go to work. i know that i can
do this. thanks again
> > angie "Celtic Gal (Vanessa)" <[email protected]> wrote in
message news:[email protected]...
> > Good luck resisting those temptations Angela, cause it sure isn't
easy.
> > I am a carb addict, but I also have an intolerance to bread,pasta
etc. and when I eat it, my body swells up and I go into an all out binge fest, carb, sugar,
carb.......
> > Have you tried really monitoring how you feel after you eat just
one cookie or doughnut? I bet you get cranky, feel tired and lose energy (after the initial "High").
If you feel like this, then something has to "click" and you need to work your butt off to get over
the carbs calling your name <G>.
> > I know it's hard, but it can be done. Vanessa In OZ :) Overall (Was 273- Current 212- Goal
> > 160 to 140) "Anglea Woollcombe" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> > i'm not the only one who has had a hard start to atkins. i have
heard of
> > others. i have almost given up the things that i have been having
trouble
> > with. i'm trying one more time tonight. at work. you try working
where you r
> > tempted by so much, this is the final time i am retrying. i know that i can do
weight
> > watchers i have lost 30lbs so far with it. i can do atkins just
need to work
> > at it. angie "ray miller" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > news:[email protected]...
> > > On Sat, 03 Jan 2004 15:40:48 GMT, "Laura"
<[email protected]>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > >If someone can't follow the WW diet then how are they going to follow the
Atkins
> > diet?
> > >
> > > I agree wholeheartedly with this.
> > >
> > > And Angela, You seem to be having a really hard time getting
started
> > > on Atkins. If it's so hard is it really for you?
> > >
> > > AIUI on Atkins you must limit carbs to almost nothing for a
week or so
> > > to change your metabolism to ketosis. Every time you eat too
many
> > > carbs, your body comes out of ketosis and you are back to
square one.
> > > Ketosis is the whole point of Atkins. If you can't get into
ketosis
> > > and stay there it's pointless trying to cut out carbs.
> > >
> > > I like the idea of a balanced diet, but maybe with a bit more
protein
> > > than 'normal' - 25-30% instead of 20%, hopefully at the expense
of fat
> > > rather than carbs.
> > >
> > > ATkins is not something I'd want to do for any length of time,
and
> > > it's something I'd hate to do 'cos I'd have to give up rice and
pasta
> > > (and squash, and potatoes, and ...)
> > >
> > > Ray
> > > --
> > > rmnsuk overall - 273/210/182
 
Joyce wrote:
>
> On Fri, 09 Jan 2004 00:22:48 +0000, Kate Dicey <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >
> >> >I think she must be using centimeters in one set of measurments, either that or was holding
> >> >the tape measure reversed. There's no way anyone could lose four feet off their measurements.
> >>
> >> I never thought of those possibilities. My guess would have to be the centimeters, only because
> >> my cloth tape measure only goes to 60 inches. <G> And my steel tape measures are impossible to
> >> get backwards. <G>
> >>
> >> Joyce
> >> >
> >
> >I have two cloth tapes that run to 120". Very useful for measuring garment length on tall
> >customers! Especially on people like my nearly 6 ft tall sister, who had a demi train on her last
> >party frock!
> >
> >As for going round bigger customers... Well, they are good for that too! Taping two together
> >seems cruel, somehow. The metal ones are ok for measuring carpets and curtains!
>
> Ahhhhh, you are soooo right - I forgot all about the longer tapes for seamstresses. My mom used to
> have one also. I tend to just buy what is easily found at wal-mart type stores ... 60 inches and
> cheap. But then, I don't really need anything better! I would hate to have someone tape two
> measures together if attempting to measure me. Very cruel indeed!
>
> Thank you for correcting me though, I do appreciate it
>
> Joyce

I got one of mine several years ago, but the new one is really dinky: it's a retractable one in a
purple and pink case, and part of my son's Christmas present to me. Small enough and light enough to
keep in my handbag!
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