Hi Rick,
"Rick Onanian" <
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> On Mon, 17 Nov 2003 23:31:23 +1100, "Andrew Morris" <
[email protected]> wrote:
> >Hi Folks, I ride a Norco Java MTB, and a Giant TCR2 Roadie...
>
> Don't know the Norco. I have a TCR2.
The Norco is a 1998 MTB, stopped production mid-1999....
> >On the Java, running slicks, I can average around 36 km/h spinning at
what I
> >guestimate to be a cadence of around 90 RPM... On the Giant, in a
similar
>
> That's probably something like a 48 x 14 gear? That would be 88.3 gear inches, regardless.
>
> >gear ratio, I can average about 27 km/h, with a cadence of around 80 RPM, but also get a lower
> >back pain...
>
> That would be a 39 x 15 or 52x19. That's 68.3 to 71.9 gear inches.
>
> You're running a significantly taller gear (that's even with the tire size factored in) on the
> MTB. You would have to shift into 52 x 15 to get a similar gear inch.
Yeah, that was around whsat I was in to be figuring on the same ratios... Interestingly, I can also
spin up to a max speed on flats of about 50 km/h on the MTB, but on the TCR2, i can reach 50 km/h
fairly easily, but have trouble staying there... Again, with similar gear ratios...
> >Now, I've measured both bikes, being seat to bottom bracket, seat to
stem,
> >and front hub to handle bar. The only major measurement difference I can find is that the bars on
> >the road bike are about 10 cm lower than on the mountain bike... Is this going to be the cause of
> >my lower back pain?
And
>
> Probably. The TCR2 has a very aggressive geometry, especially for somebody who's not Fabrizio.
>
> >would the best way to work with this, to be to take both bikes into the
bike
> >shop, and adjust the road bike to similar measurements as the MTB? I believe if I turn the Giant
> >headstem over, I should raise the handlebars about 5 cm... Is this going to be enough??? Or is it
> >a matter of suck it and see?
>
> Is the TCR2 your first road bike? Road bike fitting is different from MTB fitting. However, I've
> gone to a 130mm 45 degree rise stem on my TCR2. It helped tremendously; I could ride longer,
> farther, and faster.
No, i had an Avanti Corsa, 1999 model, which i had similar back issues on, however that was due to
the "pro fit" i had done fitting me to a frame size that was one size too big... I have been ok on
the TCR2 for about 1000 km, but the issues are starting to hit me now, especially as we're moving
into summer here, and things are warming up...
> When the winter ends and I want to ride again, I'll probably be able to go for a good ride on the
> first try; before I put that stem on, at the end of the winter, having not ridden for months, I
> couldn't even fold myself into the position to ride it for more than a few minutes.
>
> Regarding others' posts:
>
> Carl Fogel is puzzled at your speed loss. I agree.
>
> David Kerber suggested that if you use one computer on both bikes, it's miscalibrated for one. You
> replied that you don't; however, one or both computers could be miscalibrated, regardless. Check
> that out.
Checked this one out, and both computers are set correctly... I'm confused too...
> Tom suggests minding the ride quality. While I've found that my TCR2 is very comfortable riding
> with the tires at 125psi, you may not; in fact, if you are lighter than me (210 pounds), you might
> want to lower your pressure to 100, 90, or even 80 (at least for a test run).
I run the TCR2 pressures at about 115 psi, and weigh around 75 kg (165-170 lbs) and find the bike a
lot more comfortable than when I was running around 90 psi...
I'm just about to head off to the bike shop, to flip the stem (can't find any allen keys) and see
how we go from there...
Will come back to the group once I've been for a ride...
Cheers,
Andrew