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On Jun 1, 9:20 am, "george conklin" <[email protected]> wrote:
> "Bill" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> > Pat wrote:
> >> On May 31, 5:10 pm, "Amy Blankenship"
> >> <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>> "Dane Buson" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> >>>> In rec.bicycles.misc Amy Blankenship
> >>>> <[email protected]>
> >>>> wrote:
> >>>>> "Dane Buson" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> >>>>>> In rec.bicycles.misc Bolwerk <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>>>>>> It'd be great, but it's not really practical, sadly. The worst part
> >>>>>>> is
> >>>>>>> that the incompetents tend to live in places most dependent on the
> >>>>>>> automobile.
> >>>>>> In every other 1st world nation it is much much more expensive and
> >>>>>> difficult to get a license. If someone can't drive a vehicle safely,
> >>>>>> they shouldn't be driving. I have very little sympathy for someone
> >>>>>> being dependent on an automobile and not driving it responsibly.
> >>>>> In every other first world nation, it is feasible to live without
> >>>>> owning
> >>>>> a
> >>>>> car.
> >>>> How much of that is cause and how much of that is effect? I rather
> >>>> think that if people find it harder to have a license, we'll see more
> >>>> people arranging their lives to live without cars.
> >>> I doubt it. We'd have to start changing the way we build things. I
> >>> would
> >>> have to plant a much bigger garden and be way more serious about it than
> >>> I
> >>> am if I wanted to survive without a car. Many people I know would
> >>> probably
> >>> starve if they did not have one.
>
> >> Don't sweat it. All of the anti-car and ride-a-bike people live in
> >> cities where it might be feasible to like without a car. They are
> >> very ego-centric and forget that people live in rural areas. Live
> >> without a car? Not likely. It's 20 miles to the nearest Walmart.
> >> Oops, did I say Walmart. Sorry. Here, we have two small grocery
> >> stores that are on the Reservation, but no clothing stores or anything
> >> like that. Plus no public transporation except 1 inter-city bus per
> >> day and the Nation's bus service for the Elders. Someday they'll
> >> recognize that people still live in the boonies.
>
> > Well said. City dwellers are a rather biased lot.
> > Bill Baka
>
> But then they would say, "Raise taxes and provide 'affordable' bus
> transit to the Reservation."
George, run for it!!! You used "taxes" and "Reservation" in the same
sentence. Eeeks. That's a no-no around here. Heck, you can't even
say they are tax _exempt_. They are _immune_.
http://www.sni.org/indiantreaties.html
> "Bill" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> > Pat wrote:
> >> On May 31, 5:10 pm, "Amy Blankenship"
> >> <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>> "Dane Buson" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> >>>news:[email protected]...
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> >>>> In rec.bicycles.misc Amy Blankenship
> >>>> <[email protected]>
> >>>> wrote:
> >>>>> "Dane Buson" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> >>>>>> In rec.bicycles.misc Bolwerk <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>>>>>> It'd be great, but it's not really practical, sadly. The worst part
> >>>>>>> is
> >>>>>>> that the incompetents tend to live in places most dependent on the
> >>>>>>> automobile.
> >>>>>> In every other 1st world nation it is much much more expensive and
> >>>>>> difficult to get a license. If someone can't drive a vehicle safely,
> >>>>>> they shouldn't be driving. I have very little sympathy for someone
> >>>>>> being dependent on an automobile and not driving it responsibly.
> >>>>> In every other first world nation, it is feasible to live without
> >>>>> owning
> >>>>> a
> >>>>> car.
> >>>> How much of that is cause and how much of that is effect? I rather
> >>>> think that if people find it harder to have a license, we'll see more
> >>>> people arranging their lives to live without cars.
> >>> I doubt it. We'd have to start changing the way we build things. I
> >>> would
> >>> have to plant a much bigger garden and be way more serious about it than
> >>> I
> >>> am if I wanted to survive without a car. Many people I know would
> >>> probably
> >>> starve if they did not have one.
>
> >> Don't sweat it. All of the anti-car and ride-a-bike people live in
> >> cities where it might be feasible to like without a car. They are
> >> very ego-centric and forget that people live in rural areas. Live
> >> without a car? Not likely. It's 20 miles to the nearest Walmart.
> >> Oops, did I say Walmart. Sorry. Here, we have two small grocery
> >> stores that are on the Reservation, but no clothing stores or anything
> >> like that. Plus no public transporation except 1 inter-city bus per
> >> day and the Nation's bus service for the Elders. Someday they'll
> >> recognize that people still live in the boonies.
>
> > Well said. City dwellers are a rather biased lot.
> > Bill Baka
>
> But then they would say, "Raise taxes and provide 'affordable' bus
> transit to the Reservation."
George, run for it!!! You used "taxes" and "Reservation" in the same
sentence. Eeeks. That's a no-no around here. Heck, you can't even
say they are tax _exempt_. They are _immune_.
http://www.sni.org/indiantreaties.html