trek has already shiped most of the '05 but it may be a bit at smaller shops with less turnover because there is no warehouse backstock yet. gary fisher and lemond are the same, because they are owned by trek. the main things not relesed from trek are the real high end lower production bikes and anything waiting on ultegra 10. shimano has been 100% working to get ultegra 10 out so much so that it was tough to get anything from them in the last 3 months. it relesed supposedly at interbike in vegas so it should be in stores soon. most companys have a small extra section on their website for the new stuff, even though the page may not looked like it changed.