Which Extra-Small Road Bike? (long)

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  1. Eurastus

    Eurastus Guest

    I am looking for an extra-small road bike for my daughter; she's very excited to ride a "real bike"
    with Daddy...I'd like to hear your opinions and advice...

    She's about 4'5" tall, a skinny 55 pounds and is emphatic that she does not want to ride a Mountain
    Bike like her brother...try as I might, I can't get her mind off a road bike with skinny tires and
    drop-bars.

    We've got a 1989 (I think) 48cm Cannondale that my wife used to ride many, many moons ago. (My wife
    is only 5'2" so I don't expect my daughter to grow much more than that.) The Cannondale is in fine
    shape--Shimano 105 7-speed components with down-tube shifters. I thought it looked too big but after
    my daughter pleaded for a week; I was game to give it a try. I lowered the saddle, using the old
    upside-down seat clamp method on a 27.2 seat pillar. The saddle rails are about 1/4 inch above the
    seat collar; it's not going any lower but my daughter really needs it to go down another 3/4 to 1
    inch. I replaced the standard stem with a 60mm extension...the reach appears to be OK. Break-reach
    is just a bit too long, though.

    My daughter can just barely ride the Cannondale, rocking her hips from side to side. She loves the
    bike and wants to ride whenever the weather will allow. I don't like the bike fit at all. I think
    she'd stop rocking if her legs were an inch longer...at the rate she's going, that might well be by
    mid-summer.

    I'd really like to get something that fits much better...maybe a 40-43cm with 650 wheels. Do you
    have any suggestions as to what's available out there?

    I notice that Cannondale now has a 40cm frame with 650 wheels available now but it retails at $1200
    and up (depending on group)...too rich for our blood.

    K2 has a model, the Mach 1.0, which is listed at 43cm, with a 51.2 cm top tube that at $520 is more
    reasonable. It has Sora break levers, which can be adjusted down for smaller hands. None of the
    local shops have one that small and will only order one if I put 50% down...I'd like her to ride it
    before we commit to the purchase.

    Anything else that small out there?

    I'd really like to get something that fits her better before she wrecks the one she's riding, hurts
    herself, and loses all interest in riding.

    Thanks, Eurastus.
     
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  2. Matt O'Toole

    Matt O'Toole Guest

    Eurastus wrote:

    > I am looking for an extra-small road bike for my daughter; she's very excited to ride a "real
    > bike" with Daddy...I'd like to hear your opinions and advice...
    >
    > She's about 4'5" tall, a skinny 55 pounds and is emphatic that she does not want to ride a
    > Mountain Bike like her brother...try as I might, I can't get her mind off a road bike with skinny
    > tires and drop-bars.
    >
    > We've got a 1989 (I think) 48cm Cannondale that my wife used to ride many, many moons ago. (My
    > wife is only 5'2" so I don't expect my daughter to grow much more than that.) The Cannondale is in
    > fine shape--Shimano 105 7-speed components with down-tube shifters. I thought it looked too big
    > but after my daughter pleaded for a week; I was game to give it a try. I lowered the saddle, using
    > the old upside-down seat clamp method on a 27.2 seat pillar. The saddle rails are about 1/4 inch
    > above the seat collar; it's not going any lower but my daughter really needs it to go down another
    > 3/4 to 1 inch. I replaced the standard stem with a 60mm extension...the reach appears to be OK.
    > Break-reach is just a bit too long, though.
    >
    > My daughter can just barely ride the Cannondale, rocking her hips from side to side. She loves the
    > bike and wants to ride whenever the weather will allow. I don't like the bike fit at all. I think
    > she'd stop rocking if her legs were an inch longer...at the rate she's going, that might well be
    > by mid-summer.
    >
    > I'd really like to get something that fits much better...maybe a 40-43cm with 650 wheels. Do you
    > have any suggestions as to what's available out there?
    >
    > I notice that Cannondale now has a 40cm frame with 650 wheels available now but it retails at
    > $1200 and up (depending on group)...too rich for our blood.
    >
    > K2 has a model, the Mach 1.0, which is listed at 43cm, with a 51.2 cm top tube that at $520 is
    > more reasonable. It has Sora break levers, which can be adjusted down for smaller hands. None of
    > the local shops have one that small and will only order one if I put 50% down...I'd like her to
    > ride it before we commit to the purchase.
    >
    > Anything else that small out there?
    >
    > I'd really like to get something that fits her better before she wrecks the one she's riding,
    > hurts herself, and loses all interest in riding.

    Fuji makes a small version of their Sora-equipped model (Ace-SE?), with either 650 or 26" wheels.
    It's probably similar to the K2, at a similar price. So you have one more to choose from.

    Matt O.
     
  3. Eurastus

    Eurastus Guest

    Thanks for the good advice. However, as far as I can tell from their web-site, it's a 700C wheel. Am
    I missing something?

    Matt O'Toole <[email protected]> wrote:
    >Eurastus wrote:
    >
    >> I am looking for an extra-small road bike for my daughter; she's very excited to ride a "real
    >> bike" with Daddy...I'd like to hear your opinions and advice...
    >>
    >> She's about 4'5" tall, a skinny 55 pounds and is emphatic that she does not want to ride a
    >> Mountain Bike like her brother...try as I might, I can't get her mind off a road bike with skinny
    >> tires and drop-bars.
    >>
    >> We've got a 1989 (I think) 48cm Cannondale that my wife used to ride many, many moons ago. (My
    >> wife is only 5'2" so I don't expect my daughter to grow much more than that.) The Cannondale is
    >> in fine shape--Shimano 105 7-speed components with down-tube shifters. I thought it looked too
    >> big but after my daughter pleaded for a week; I was game to give it a try. I lowered the saddle,
    >> using the old upside-down seat clamp method on a 27.2 seat pillar. The saddle rails are about 1/4
    >> inch above the seat collar; it's not going any lower but my daughter really needs it to go down
    >> another 3/4 to 1 inch. I replaced the standard stem with a 60mm extension...the reach appears to
    >> be OK. Break-reach is just a bit too long, though.
    >>
    >> My daughter can just barely ride the Cannondale, rocking her hips from side to side. She loves
    >> the bike and wants to ride whenever the weather will allow. I don't like the bike fit at all. I
    >> think she'd stop rocking if her legs were an inch longer...at the rate she's going, that might
    >> well be by mid-summer.
    >>
    >> I'd really like to get something that fits much better...maybe a 40-43cm with 650 wheels. Do you
    >> have any suggestions as to what's available out there?
    >>
    >> I notice that Cannondale now has a 40cm frame with 650 wheels available now but it retails at
    >> $1200 and up (depending on group)...too rich for our blood.
    >>
    >> K2 has a model, the Mach 1.0, which is listed at 43cm, with a 51.2 cm top tube that at $520 is
    >> more reasonable. It has Sora break levers, which can be adjusted down for smaller hands. None of
    >> the local shops have one that small and will only order one if I put 50% down...I'd like her to
    >> ride it before we commit to the purchase.
    >>
    >> Anything else that small out there?
    >>
    >> I'd really like to get something that fits her better before she wrecks the one she's riding,
    >> hurts herself, and loses all interest in riding.
    >
    >Fuji makes a small version of their Sora-equipped model (Ace-SE?), with either 650 or 26" wheels.
    >It's probably similar to the K2, at a similar price. So you have one more to choose from.
    >
    >Matt O.
     
  4. At 4'5" even a smallish 650c-wheel road bike is probably going to have too long a reach from seat to
    handlebar (and that K2 you refer to, at 51cm top tube, is most certainly too long!). But you still
    might be able to work something out with a 650c bike... had the exact same situation with my
    10-year-old son. We changed from drop bars to uprights, using Shimano's new flatbar road brake &
    shift levers. Works great and he really cruises on it!

    Unfortunately, the bike we used is no longer made (the TREK 1000 KDZ), but sounds like the little
    Fuji someone else mentioned might be similar.

    --Mike-- Chain Reaction Bicycles http://www.ChainReactionBicycles.com

    "Eurastus" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected]...
    > I am looking for an extra-small road bike for my daughter; she's very
    excited
    > to ride a "real bike" with Daddy...I'd like to hear your opinions and
    advice...
    >
    > She's about 4'5" tall, a skinny 55 pounds and is emphatic that she does
    not
    > want to ride a Mountain Bike like her brother...try as I might, I can't
    get her
    > mind off a road bike with skinny tires and drop-bars.
    >
    > We've got a 1989 (I think) 48cm Cannondale that my wife used to ride many,
    many
    > moons ago. (My wife is only 5'2" so I don't expect my daughter to grow
    much
    > more than that.) The Cannondale is in fine shape--Shimano 105 7-speed components with down-tube
    > shifters. I thought it looked too big but after
    my
    > daughter pleaded for a week; I was game to give it a try. I lowered the saddle, using the old
    > upside-down seat clamp method on a 27.2 seat pillar.
    The
    > saddle rails are about 1/4 inch above the seat collar; it's not going any
    lower
    > but my daughter really needs it to go down another 3/4 to 1 inch. I
    replaced
    > the standard stem with a 60mm extension...the reach appears to be OK. Break-reach is just a bit
    > too long, though.
    >
    > My daughter can just barely ride the Cannondale, rocking her hips from
    side to
    > side. She loves the bike and wants to ride whenever the weather will
    allow. I
    > don't like the bike fit at all. I think she'd stop rocking if her legs
    were an
    > inch longer...at the rate she's going, that might well be by mid-summer.
    >
    > I'd really like to get something that fits much better...maybe a 40-43cm
    with
    > 650 wheels. Do you have any suggestions as to what's available out there?
    >
    > I notice that Cannondale now has a 40cm frame with 650 wheels available
    now but
    > it retails at $1200 and up (depending on group)...too rich for our blood.
    >
    > K2 has a model, the Mach 1.0, which is listed at 43cm, with a 51.2 cm top
    tube
    > that at $520 is more reasonable. It has Sora break levers, which can be adjusted down for smaller
    > hands. None of the local shops have one that
    small
    > and will only order one if I put 50% down...I'd like her to ride it before
    we
    > commit to the purchase.
    >
    > Anything else that small out there?
    >
    > I'd really like to get something that fits her better before she wrecks
    the one
    > she's riding, hurts herself, and loses all interest in riding.
    >
    > Thanks, Eurastus.
     
  5. Eurastus

    Eurastus Guest

    OOPS!!! spoke too soon. It appears that their "Finest Womens" model is available with Sora in a 44cm
    with 650 wheels!!!

    Thanks!!

    The local bike shop is listed as a dealer (but I'm surethis small frame wouldn't be in stock)..I'll
    give them a visit tomorrow.

    Thanks again.

    Eurastus <[email protected]> wrote:
    >Thanks for the good advice. However, as far as I can tell from their web-site, it's a 700C wheel.
    >Am I missing something?
    >
    >Matt O'Toole <[email protected]> wrote:
    >>Eurastus wrote:
    >>
    >>> I am looking for an extra-small road bike for my daughter; she's very excited to ride a "real
    >>> bike" with Daddy...I'd like to hear your opinions and advice...
    >>>
    >>> She's about 4'5" tall, a skinny 55 pounds and is emphatic that she does not want to ride a
    >>> Mountain Bike like her brother...try as I might, I can't get her mind off a road bike with
    >>> skinny tires and drop-bars.
    >>>
    >>> We've got a 1989 (I think) 48cm Cannondale that my wife used to ride many, many moons ago. (My
    >>> wife is only 5'2" so I don't expect my daughter to grow much more than that.) The Cannondale is
    >>> in fine shape--Shimano 105 7-speed components with down-tube shifters. I thought it looked too
    >>> big but after my daughter pleaded for a week; I was game to give it a try. I lowered the saddle,
    >>> using the old upside-down seat clamp method on a 27.2 seat pillar. The saddle rails are about
    >>> 1/4 inch above the seat collar; it's not going any lower but my daughter really needs it to go
    >>> down another 3/4 to 1 inch. I replaced the standard stem with a 60mm extension...the reach
    >>> appears to be OK. Break-reach is just a bit too long, though.
    >>>
    >>> My daughter can just barely ride the Cannondale, rocking her hips from side to side. She loves
    >>> the bike and wants to ride whenever the weather will allow. I don't like the bike fit at all. I
    >>> think she'd stop rocking if her legs were an inch longer...at the rate she's going, that might
    >>> well be by mid-summer.
    >>>
    >>> I'd really like to get something that fits much better...maybe a 40-43cm with 650 wheels. Do you
    >>> have any suggestions as to what's available out there?
    >>>
    >>> I notice that Cannondale now has a 40cm frame with 650 wheels available now but it retails at
    >>> $1200 and up (depending on group)...too rich for our blood.
    >>>
    >>> K2 has a model, the Mach 1.0, which is listed at 43cm, with a 51.2 cm top tube that at $520 is
    >>> more reasonable. It has Sora break levers, which can be adjusted down for smaller hands. None of
    >>> the local shops have one that small and will only order one if I put 50% down...I'd like her to
    >>> ride it before we commit to the purchase.
    >>>
    >>> Anything else that small out there?
    >>>
    >>> I'd really like to get something that fits her better before she wrecks the one she's riding,
    >>> hurts herself, and loses all interest in riding.
    >>
    >>Fuji makes a small version of their Sora-equipped model (Ace-SE?), with either 650 or 26" wheels.
    >>It's probably similar to the K2, at a similar price. So you have one more to choose from.
    >>
    >>Matt O.
    >
     
  6. Grenouil

    Grenouil Guest

    "Eurastus" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected]...
    > I am looking for an extra-small road bike for my daughter;
    she's very excited
    > to ride a "real bike" with Daddy...I'd like to hear your
    opinions and advice...
    >
    > She's about 4'5" tall, a skinny 55 pounds and is emphatic
    that she does not
    > want to ride a Mountain Bike like her brother...try as I
    might, I can't get her
    > mind off a road bike with skinny tires and drop-bars.
    >
    > We've got a 1989 (I think) 48cm Cannondale that my wife
    used to ride many, many
    > moons ago. (My wife is only 5'2" so I don't expect my
    daughter to grow much
    > more than that.) The Cannondale is in fine shape--Shimano
    105 7-speed
    > components with down-tube shifters. I thought it looked
    too big but after my
    > daughter pleaded for a week; I was game to give it a try.
    I lowered the
    > saddle, using the old upside-down seat clamp method on a
    27.2 seat pillar. The
    > saddle rails are about 1/4 inch above the seat collar;
    it's not going any lower
    > but my daughter really needs it to go down another 3/4 to
    1 inch. I replaced
    > the standard stem with a 60mm extension...the reach
    appears to be OK.
    > Break-reach is just a bit too long, though.
    >
    > My daughter can just barely ride the Cannondale, rocking
    her hips from side to
    > side. She loves the bike and wants to ride whenever the
    weather will allow. I
    > don't like the bike fit at all. I think she'd stop
    rocking if her legs were an
    > inch longer...at the rate she's going, that might well be
    by mid-summer.
    >
    > I'd really like to get something that fits much
    better...maybe a 40-43cm with
    > 650 wheels. Do you have any suggestions as to what's
    available out there?
    >
    > I notice that Cannondale now has a 40cm frame with 650
    wheels available now but
    > it retails at $1200 and up (depending on group)...too rich
    for our blood.
    >
    > K2 has a model, the Mach 1.0, which is listed at 43cm,
    with a 51.2 cm top tube
    > that at $520 is more reasonable. It has Sora break
    levers, which can be
    > adjusted down for smaller hands. None of the local shops
    have one that small
    > and will only order one if I put 50% down...I'd like her
    to ride it before we
    > commit to the purchase.
    >
    > Anything else that small out there?
    >
    > I'd really like to get something that fits her better
    before she wrecks the one
    > she's riding, hurts herself, and loses all interest in
    riding.
    >
    > Thanks, Eurastus.
    >

    Also check out the small size Giant road bikes - the smallest size compact frames are 43cm seat
    tube. The OCR models also have an adjustable stem, and I believe the lowest Sora equipped model is
    about $650. You should be able to find a local bike shop selling Giant bikes, and could try a fit. A
    compact frame may also allow enough adjustment for her to continue to ride it for a couple of years
    as she grows
     
  7. Eurastus

    Eurastus Guest

    Bummer!!! The only dealer Fuji has listed on their site within 100 miles from my home has gone out
    of business...Guess it's mail order, then. Too bad.

    Eurastus <[email protected]> wrote:
    >OOPS!!! spoke too soon. It appears that their "Finest Womens" model is available with Sora in a
    >44cm with 650 wheels!!!
    >
    >Thanks!!
    >
    >The local bike shop is listed as a dealer (but I'm surethis small frame wouldn't be in stock)..I'll
    >give them a visit tomorrow.
    >
    >Thanks again.
    >
    >Eurastus <[email protected]> wrote:
    >>Thanks for the good advice. However, as far as I can tell from their web-site, it's a 700C wheel.
    >>Am I missing something?
    >>
    >>Matt O'Toole <[email protected]> wrote:
    >>>Eurastus wrote:
    >>>
    >>>> I am looking for an extra-small road bike for my daughter; she's very excited to ride a "real
    >>>> bike" with Daddy...I'd like to hear your opinions and advice...
    >>>>
    >>>> She's about 4'5" tall, a skinny 55 pounds and is emphatic that she does not want to ride a
    >>>> Mountain Bike like her brother...try as I might, I can't get her mind off a road bike with
    >>>> skinny tires and drop-bars.
    >>>>
    >>>> We've got a 1989 (I think) 48cm Cannondale that my wife used to ride many, many moons ago. (My
    >>>> wife is only 5'2" so I don't expect my daughter to grow much more than that.) The Cannondale is
    >>>> in fine shape--Shimano 105 7-speed components with down-tube shifters. I thought it looked too
    >>>> big but after my daughter pleaded for a week; I was game to give it a try. I lowered the
    >>>> saddle, using the old upside-down seat clamp method on a 27.2 seat pillar. The saddle rails are
    >>>> about 1/4 inch above the seat collar; it's not going any lower but my daughter really needs it
    >>>> to go down another 3/4 to 1 inch. I replaced the standard stem with a 60mm extension...the
    >>>> reach appears to be OK. Break-reach is just a bit too long, though.
    >>>>
    >>>> My daughter can just barely ride the Cannondale, rocking her hips from side to side. She loves
    >>>> the bike and wants to ride whenever the weather will allow. I don't like the bike fit at all. I
    >>>> think she'd stop rocking if her legs were an inch longer...at the rate she's going, that might
    >>>> well be by mid-summer.
    >>>>
    >>>> I'd really like to get something that fits much better...maybe a 40-43cm with 650 wheels. Do
    >>>> you have any suggestions as to what's available out there?
    >>>>
    >>>> I notice that Cannondale now has a 40cm frame with 650 wheels available now but it retails at
    >>>> $1200 and up (depending on group)...too rich for our blood.
    >>>>
    >>>> K2 has a model, the Mach 1.0, which is listed at 43cm, with a 51.2 cm top tube that at $520 is
    >>>> more reasonable. It has Sora break levers, which can be adjusted down for smaller hands. None
    >>>> of the local shops have one that small and will only order one if I put 50% down...I'd like her
    >>>> to ride it before we commit to the purchase.
    >>>>
    >>>> Anything else that small out there?
    >>>>
    >>>> I'd really like to get something that fits her better before she wrecks the one she's riding,
    >>>> hurts herself, and loses all interest in riding.
    >>>
    >>>Fuji makes a small version of their Sora-equipped model (Ace-SE?), with either 650 or 26" wheels.
    >>>It's probably similar to the K2, at a similar price. So you have one more to choose from.
    >>>
    >>>Matt O.
    >>>
    >
     
  8. Tbgibb

    Tbgibb Guest

    In article <[email protected]>, Eurastus <[email protected]> writes:

    >I am looking for an extra-small road bike for my daughter; she's very excited
    >
    >to ride a "real bike" with Daddy...I'd like to hear your opinions and advice...
    >
    >She's about 4'5" tall, a skinny 55 pounds and is emphatic that she does not want to ride a Mountain
    >Bike like her brother...try as I might, I can't get her mind off a road bike with skinny tires and
    >drop-bars.
    >

    Personally I'd consider modifying a child's mountain bike with skinny tires and drop bars. It could
    dampen her enthusiasm if she lands hard on the top bar.

    Due to the rate at which children grow they are always a problem with these things, the bike that
    fits them today may not in 6 months. Some compromise is required unless Dad and Mom are made of
    money, but saftey is not the place for that.

    Tom Gibb <[email protected]
     
  9. Per LöWdin

    Per LöWdin Guest

  10. Dave Cook

    Dave Cook Guest

    "Eurastus" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected]...
    > I am looking for an extra-small road bike for my daughter; she's very
    excited
    > to ride a "real bike" with Daddy...I'd like to hear your opinions and
    advice...
    >
    > First, Hooray for your daughter! You might try a hybrid since most have
    sloping top tubes. Replace the stem, handlebar, brake levers, and shifters to make it into a road
    bike. The advantage is that you could probably find a used hybrid in the right size easier and
    cheaper than the road bike. Downside - probably minimum $100 to make the conversion. Good luck to
    you and your daughter.
     
  11. Eurastus

    Eurastus Guest

    I also heard that the Argon 18 R2 (24" wheels) and D2 (650 wheels) are worthy bikes in this same
    size range. I cannot seem to find much on the web--apparently the Argon 18 web site is gone or down.
    Any thoughts on this?

    Eurastus <[email protected]> wrote:
    >I am looking for an extra-small road bike for my daughter; she's very excited to ride a "real bike"
    >with Daddy...I'd like to hear your opinions and advice...
    >
    >She's about 4'5" tall, a skinny 55 pounds and is emphatic that she does not want to ride a Mountain
    >Bike like her brother...try as I might, I can't get her mind off a road bike with skinny tires and
    >drop-bars.
    >
    >We've got a 1989 (I think) 48cm Cannondale that my wife used to ride many, many moons ago. (My wife
    >is only 5'2" so I don't expect my daughter to grow much more than that.) The Cannondale is in fine
    >shape--Shimano 105 7-speed components with down-tube shifters. I thought it looked too big but
    >after my daughter pleaded for a week; I was game to give it a try. I lowered the saddle, using the
    >old upside-down seat clamp method on a 27.2 seat pillar. The saddle rails are about 1/4 inch above
    >the seat collar; it's not going any lower but my daughter really needs it to go down another 3/4 to
    >1 inch. I replaced the standard stem with a 60mm extension...the reach appears to be OK.
    >Break-reach is just a bit too long, though.
    >
    >My daughter can just barely ride the Cannondale, rocking her hips from side to side. She loves the
    >bike and wants to ride whenever the weather will allow. I don't like the bike fit at all. I think
    >she'd stop rocking if her legs were an inch longer...at the rate she's going, that might well be by
    >mid-summer.
    >
    >I'd really like to get something that fits much better...maybe a 40-43cm with 650 wheels. Do you
    >have any suggestions as to what's available out there?
    >
    >I notice that Cannondale now has a 40cm frame with 650 wheels available now but it retails at $1200
    >and up (depending on group)...too rich for our blood.
    >
    >K2 has a model, the Mach 1.0, which is listed at 43cm, with a 51.2 cm top tube that at $520 is more
    >reasonable. It has Sora break levers, which can be adjusted down for smaller hands. None of the
    >local shops have one that small and will only order one if I put 50% down...I'd like her to ride it
    >before we commit to the purchase.
    >
    >Anything else that small out there?
    >
    >I'd really like to get something that fits her better before she wrecks the one she's riding, hurts
    >herself, and loses all interest in riding.
    >
    >Thanks, Eurastus.
     
  12. Trailgalore

    Trailgalore Guest

    "Eurastus" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected]...
    > I also heard that the Argon 18 R2 (24" wheels) and D2 (650 wheels) are
    worthy
    > bikes in this same size range. I cannot seem to find much on the web--apparently the Argon 18 web
    > site is gone or down. Any thoughts on
    this?
    >
    > Eurastus <[email protected]> wrote:
    > >I am looking for an extra-small road bike for my daughter; she's very
    excited
    > >to ride a "real bike" with Daddy...I'd like to hear your opinions and
    advice...
    > >
    > >She's about 4'5" tall, a skinny 55 pounds and is emphatic that she does
    not
    > >want to ride a Mountain Bike like her brother...try as I might, I can't
    get
    > >her mind off a road bike with skinny tires and drop-bars.
    > >
    > >We've got a 1989 (I think) 48cm Cannondale that my wife used to ride
    many,
    > >many moons ago. (My wife is only 5'2" so I don't expect my daughter to grow
    much
    > >more than that.) The Cannondale is in fine shape--Shimano 105 7-speed components with down-tube
    > >shifters. I thought it looked too big but
    after my
    > >daughter pleaded for a week; I was game to give it a try. I lowered the saddle, using the old
    > >upside-down seat clamp method on a 27.2 seat
    pillar.
    > >The saddle rails are about 1/4 inch above the seat collar; it's not going any lower but my
    > >daughter really needs it to go down another 3/4 to 1 inch. I
    replaced
    > >the standard stem with a 60mm extension...the reach appears to be OK. Break-reach is just a bit
    > >too long, though.
    > >
    > >My daughter can just barely ride the Cannondale, rocking her hips from
    side to
    > >side. She loves the bike and wants to ride whenever the weather will
    allow.
    > >I don't like the bike fit at all. I think she'd stop rocking if her legs
    were
    > >an inch longer...at the rate she's going, that might well be by mid-summer.
    > >
    > >I'd really like to get something that fits much better...maybe a 40-43cm
    with
    > >650 wheels. Do you have any suggestions as to what's available out
    there?
    > >
    > >I notice that Cannondale now has a 40cm frame with 650 wheels available
    now
    > >but it retails at $1200 and up (depending on group)...too rich for our blood.
    > >
    > >K2 has a model, the Mach 1.0, which is listed at 43cm, with a 51.2 cm top
    tube
    > >that at $520 is more reasonable. It has Sora break levers, which can be adjusted down for smaller
    > >hands. None of the local shops have one that
    small
    > >and will only order one if I put 50% down...I'd like her to ride it
    before we
    > >commit to the purchase.
    > >
    > >Anything else that small out there?

    Look at the Fuji Ace - on eBay all the time
     
  13. Lefty

    Lefty Guest

    Trailgalore,

    I bought a Fuji Ace SE for my daughter last year. It's a wonderful bike, she has been really using
    it a lot this year. I did a lot of research prior to buying, cannondale's were really geared towards
    the advanced rider (nothing for the novice). Trek makes a kid bike (KR-1000?, something like that)
    which is real close, but a few $ more ($100). Giant also makes a kid size bike, but I can't remember
    their model or if it is still in production. I called most of the retail fuji shops w/i a 500 mile
    radius from Atlanta. Got a shop in NC that would sell the bike, unassembled, add 2 waterbottle cages
    and waterbottles, 1 shop T-shirt for $400 (shipping included). All they had to do is place an order
    to FujiUSA distribution center - they received the bike, cracked open the corner, added extra items
    and reciept and put it on a UPS truck. I get no service because they are in NC and I'm in Atlanta,
    but that's ok because I don't trust 95% of the bike mechanics (kids) out there anyway. I had 1 dose
    of reality when I saw a kid with a chisel in his had ready to remove my crown race from my Super
    Record De Rosa Prestige. Anyway- she has a mix of Fuji/Shimano components on the bike (Sora level)
    and she, as well as myself, are very pleased. Any questions - just ask. bike say's it's 24lbs, but
    no way - it's less than that - maybe 22 to 23.

    Good Luck, Dennis
     
  14. Eurastus

    Eurastus Guest

    Thanks for the word, Dennis. I also don't trust anyone near any of my bikes with a wrench
    either...never mind a chisel!!. I worked in LBS's from the time I was a pre-teen until after I
    completed college. If I've got the tool, I'll work on it myself; if I don't have the tool (like a
    headset press or BB reamer), I'll borrow it from the last shop I worked at and still do it myself.
    All hail to the garage/basement mechanics out there!!

    I was able to find a somewhat local dealer that gave me an unbelievable deal on a 2003 Roubaix Pro
    Womens in the 44cm size. I'm planning on stripping the non-small components from the frame and using
    them on one of my own frames for a commuter bike and putting some old 105 I dredged out of my
    junk-box onto the Roubaix frame for my daughter. She's very excited about the frame color...blue and
    white are her favorites. To be frank, I couldn't believe the value of the whole Fuji road-bike line.

    The bike's supposed to be at my door next week. My daughter (and I) can't wait!!

    Thanks, Eurastus...

    [email protected] (lefty) wrote:
    >Trailgalore,
    >
    >I bought a Fuji Ace SE for my daughter last year. It's a wonderful bike, she has been really using
    >it a lot this year. I did a lot of research prior to buying, cannondale's were really geared
    >towards the advanced rider (nothing for the novice). Trek makes a kid bike (KR-1000?, something
    >like that) which is real close, but a few $ more ($100). Giant also makes a kid size bike, but I
    >can't remember their model or if it is still in production. I called most of the retail fuji shops
    >w/i a 500 mile radius from Atlanta. Got a shop in NC that would sell the bike, unassembled, add 2
    >waterbottle cages and waterbottles, 1 shop T-shirt for $400 (shipping included). All they had to do
    >is place an order to FujiUSA distribution center - they received the bike, cracked open the corner,
    >added extra items and reciept and put it on a UPS truck. I get no service because they are in NC
    >and I'm in Atlanta, but that's ok because I don't trust 95% of the bike mechanics (kids) out there
    >anyway. I had 1 dose of reality when I saw a kid with a chisel in his had ready to remove my crown
    >race from my Super Record De Rosa Prestige. Anyway- she has a mix of Fuji/Shimano components on the
    >bike (Sora level) and she, as well as myself, are very pleased. Any questions - just ask. bike
    >say's it's 24lbs, but no way - it's less than that - maybe 22 to 23.
    >
    >Good Luck, Dennis
     
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