Which trainer?



raksu

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Hey. Im trying to find a trainer for the cold winter months(i live in finland) that has a relatively realistic road feel, is quiet and is not too expensive. This far i have considered these three models: cycleops fluid 2, tacx swing, elite fluid. I would also be interested in kurt kinetic models but they are not available where i live. Could someone suggest me one of these,tell me pros and cons? I don´t know anyone who has a trainer so it´s impossible for me to try these things out before buying..Thanks a lot!
raksu
 

pristau

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Have a look at 1Up USA at www.1upusa.com. They only sell direct and IMHO their trainer is the best in the business: silent, deadly workout & finest quality bar none.


Originally posted by raksu
Hey. Im trying to find a trainer for the cold winter months(i live in finland) that has a relatively realistic road feel, is quiet and is not too expensive. This far i have considered these three models: cycleops fluid 2, tacx swing, elite fluid. I would also be interested in kurt kinetic models but they are not available where i live. Could someone suggest me one of these,tell me pros and cons? I don´t know anyone who has a trainer so it´s impossible for me to try these things out before buying..Thanks a lot!
raksu
 

indyandy

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Personally the best trainer that I have been on is the Elite Volare. This thing is quiet has great resistance and if you searh the net long enough you can find it for less than two hundred bucks! Mine is on it's way. Anyone need a used trainer?
 

edd

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if you want rollers so you can balance and get the feel that you are still riding your road bike then maybe someone else will post.

However I had a magna trainer for a couple of years before I became a spin instructor in a gym, the noise of the trainer bugged the hell out of the family, I had head set, music loud.

Since then I have got to ride a whole host of stationary bikes and .... value for money, The Startrac V-Bike is a very solid very very quiet stainless steel fitted bit of training equipment.

It won't feel like a road bike, But a bike bolted to a trainer won't either.

Why wear out tires and your expensive road bike doing hours of base aerobic work. In the really cold months, chuck the lounge chair, stick it front of the TV, watch videos, music chat with friends, they can make you snacks and bring you drinks while you ride.

I’ve done the equivalent to 40,000 K on the one I use... that would be at least $600 in tires alone. All I’ve had to replace on the V-Bike is a set of pedal bearings and a couple of cheap chains and the saddle.

The V-Bike comes with a spare saddle, Friction pad, bottom bracket bearing, handle bar rubbers, and adjuster handles, as they are made for professional use.

They sell for about $1400 AU a lot less in the USA.

PS... you have to get out on the road to ride hills ! no other way that I know of ?
 

jpcnhear

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Go with rollers. I have a set of kreitler challenger rollers that are far superior to any trainer. It gives you the feel of a real ride (as close as you will ever get while inside) and teaches you balance that you can not even learn on the road. Good luck with whatever you end up with.
 

Skyward

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What are the pros and cons of megnetic trainers vs. fluid trainers. I'm a newbie to the sport so I really don't know anything about either.
 

nitrogenmustard

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a real man would use rollers. i gave my trainer to a friend so i would be forced to use the rollers during the winter
 

jpcnhear

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Like I said they are the most realistic way to train indoors. You actually have to concentrate on steering and balance. If you ride a trainer you become board real quick and it just becomes about turning the cranks. Don't get me wrong, rollers get boaring also, but at least you are making yourself a better rider (being able to hold a clean striaght line) which all the people you ride with will apreciate. There are also some technical aspects that are fun to try and conquer, first of all ridding out of the saddle for a while then down the road even trying to ride without hands (this takes a lot of practice to master).
 

tonymarch

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If you're going to go with a trainer, the Kurt Kinetic is awesome. I switched from an old mag turbo last year; the workout on the Kurt is incredible. My legs are usually dead after a good session. I bought mine on-line direct from Kurt; http://www.kurtkinetic.com/kinetic/showitem.cfm?Category=1

Shipping is free - can't be that. If you do go with the Kurt, spend the extra $40 and get the Road Machine. I remember an article that came out a year ago that said it made a great trainer even better.
 

raksu

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Thank you guys for the answers and tipps! I hadn´t really even considered rollers before but now I am. I found some stores in the net that could deliver kurt kinetic trainers all around the world, well when it comes to trainers, I guess i would choose Kinetic. I have heard too much positive about them to even consider others..But rollers would not be bad either, althought i couldn´t afford kreitlers..those are simply out of my budjet at the moment. Basic tacx rollers would do if I decide to go for rollers( sport track model) but i haven´t found any reviews on those..
I have heard that rollers don´t stress the frame nearly as much as trainers do, and tire wear is also not that much an issue..do these things actually matter alot in the long run?
Well i have to make a decision in a way or another soon..
 

Nick-NH

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Originally posted by raksu
Thank you guys for the answers and tipps! I hadn´t really even considered rollers before but now I am. I found some stores in the net that could deliver kurt kinetic trainers all around the world, well when it comes to trainers, I guess i would choose Kinetic. I have heard too much positive about them to even consider others..But rollers would not be bad either, althought i couldn´t afford kreitlers..those are simply out of my budjet at the moment. Basic tacx rollers would do if I decide to go for rollers( sport track model) but i haven´t found any reviews on those..
I have heard that rollers don´t stress the frame nearly as much as trainers do, and tire wear is also not that much an issue..do these things actually matter alot in the long run?
Well i have to make a decision in a way or another soon..

I just switched from standard diameter rollers after buying a Kurt Kinetic in November. I'd say they each have their value. The Kurt is supposed to be super accurate from a wattage standpoint. That is, you can expect to put out a similar effort on the Kurt at a given gear ratio as you would on a flat road. I haven't tested this more than by intuition and experience but it feels equivalent. The Kurt makes it easier to train on big gears as if you're cranking up a hill. You can raise the front wheel and grind like mad. Knowing you're not going to race off the front of your rollers and across your living room lends a certain peace of mind. All that being said, rollers are still my preference. It takes a different kind of focus to ride them - for me, that focus is similar to riding on the road. I'm considering rollers with a smaller diameter that naturally offer more resistance - either 3" or 2 1/2" for the spring - http://www.kreitler.com/rollers.htm - I think Kreitler makes the best ones -
 

raksu

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Nick-NH,
which model of the kreitler line would you suggest, one that would give a great amount of resistance? What do you prefer yourself? I decided to go with the rollers too, kreitlers...
 

Nick-NH

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Originally posted by raksu
Nick-NH,
which model of the kreitler line would you suggest, one that would give a great amount of resistance? What do you prefer yourself? I decided to go with the rollers too, kreitlers...

Kreitler makes rollers in 4.5", 3", and 2.25" diameters. I think the smallest diameter rollers will give you the greatest resistance - or rather, require the greatest wheel speed to maintain balance. But I think I'll go with the dyno lyte's - the rollers are 3" in diameter. I think this should give the greatest variation in effort.

http://www.kreitler.com/dynolyteinfo.htm