Happy Christmas to all. Mabe this thread will die of natural caused by New Year, who knows. At any rate, I've spent some time researching some very ancient history and have taken great pains to avoid Christian, Moslem or Jewish sources. I wanted to look into what has been proposed about the Palestinians originating from Philistia and lots of other matters that have been raised. Here is an approved chronological chart officially endorsed. What it indicates is that the Israelis were preceded by a very similar culture the Canaanites who also had some interesting religious views and one or two cultural eccentricities. After them come the Amorites. The Philistines arrive quite late around the 12th and 11th centuries B.C. I'm hoping this will also be interesting for Colorado Rider who probably studied some of this history. By the way, the Philistines spoke a kind of proto-Greek and definitely originate in Crete as we have some words of their language that resemble Mycenaean influence. They were a sea faring nation and settled in Ashkelon, Asdod and Gaza. Later on, some of their number intermarried with the semitics peoples who were already in the region: 8300 - 4000 B.C. Neolithic epoch, Jericho, 3150 - 2200 Early Canaanite 2200 - 2000 Semi-nomad invader, Middle Canaanite 2000 - 1800 Amorite invasions and immigrations 19th, 16th centuries the Patriarchs Abraham, Isaac, Jacob 1800 - 1550 Egyptian domination 14th cent Labaya the Lion man at Schechem 1300 Departure of Joesph for Egypt 12th cent invasions and immigrations of Joshua 12th 11th centuries: The Judges and Firt Commonwealth 12th 11th centuries settlements of Philistines.