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Father-in-law's birthday approaches, and I have a short list of possible small gifties (yes, I know
I should have bought at the York rally but I was too busy riding the awesome Trice Meteor):

Haynes bike book, or Richards' (sic) Bicycle Repair Manual. Which is better? Who's seen either in
the flesh?

Guy
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"Just zis Guy, you know?" <[email protected]> wrote

> Haynes bike book, or Richards' (sic) Bicycle Repair Manual. Which is better? Who's seen either in
> the flesh?

I think both of them are in our library. Certainly the Haynes one and some book with Richards in the
title. I thought the Haynes one was good.
 
On Mon, 23 Jun 2003 18:38:36 +0100, "Just zis Guy, you know?" <[email protected]> wrote:

>Father-in-law's birthday approaches, and I have a short list of possible small gifties (yes, I know
>I should have bought at the York rally but I was too busy riding the awesome Trice Meteor):
>
>Haynes bike book, or Richards' (sic) Bicycle Repair Manual. Which is better? Who's seen either in
>the flesh?

I have a 1994 edition of The Bike Book that a mate bought at a boot sale. To be honest, I never use
it, but it's nicely laid out, with loads of good photographs to illustrate all the sections - in
fact it's *very* pictoral. It definitely has a kind of 'beginners' feel to it, but I'd say it is
very good.

I'm assuming it's the same Haynes that publish the car mechanic manuals. I've always found these
very good too, so no reason not to think that the Bike Book is any less in standard..

GarryB

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> Haynes bike book, or Richards' (sic) Bicycle Repair Manual. Which is better? Who's seen either in
> the flesh?

Your really don't care about this man, do you Guy? Shame. Penny G
 
On Mon, 23 Jun 2003 19:13:58 +0000 (UTC), "Penny" <[email protected]> wrote:

>Your really don't care about this man, do you Guy? Shame.

Eh? Where does that come from?

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>On Mon, 23 Jun 2003 19:13:58 +0000 (UTC), "Penny" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>Your really don't care about this man, do you Guy? Shame.
>
>Eh? Where does that come from?

If you really cared, you'd have bought him free bike services and batteries at his LBS for a year??

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> Haynes bike book, or Richards' (sic) Bicycle Repair Manual. Which is better? Who's seen either in
> the flesh?

Given that I fully advocate learning to do stuff youself. The haynes bike book is superb, easy to
follow very explanative & good value to boot. It has recently been revised to a 2003 edition
http://www.haynes.co.uk/inc/viewbook.asp?bt=H4000 don't buy of Amazon as they don't acknowledge an
edition later than 1995 & given advances recently & all that. OK so he may not have a front shock or
disk brake now but he might do some day & it covers virtualy every style of major compnent I've ever
seen. Cya Mart..
 
I had Richards Bicycle Book as a youth - inspiring, practical and a good read. Haven't read any of
the more recent ones. More recently I've bought, and used Zinn and the Art of Road/Mountain Bike
Maintenance. Both very good, but don't buy both - lots of the info is repeated.

Sam

On Mon, 23 Jun 2003 18:38:36 +0100, "Just zis Guy, you know?" <[email protected]> wrote:

>Father-in-law's birthday approaches, and I have a short list of possible small gifties (yes, I know
>I should have bought at the York rally but I was too busy riding the awesome Trice Meteor):
>
>Haynes bike book, or Richards' (sic) Bicycle Repair Manual. Which is better? Who's seen either in
>the flesh?
>
>Guy
>===
>** WARNING ** This posting may contain traces of irony. http://www.chapmancentral.com Advance
>notice: ADSL service in process of transfer to a new ISP. Obviously there will be a week of
>downtime between the engineer removing the BT service and the same engineer connecting the same
>equipment on the same line in the same exchange and billing it to the new ISP.
 
martinroyce wrote:
>>Haynes bike book, or Richards' (sic) Bicycle Repair Manual. Which is better? Who's seen either in
>>the flesh?

I have a copy of the Haynes book from a few years ago.

> Given that I fully advocate learning to do stuff youself. The haynes bike book is superb, easy to
> follow very explanative & good value to boot. It has recently been revised to a 2003 edition

I'd lean towards whichever book has the more recent edition (sounds like the Haynes book at the
moment), or the more radical approach of getting him and internet account and pointing him at
www.sheldonbrown.com. This could be rather more expensive...

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> Father-in-law's birthday approaches, and I have a short list of possible small gifties (yes, I
> know I should have bought at the York rally but I was too busy riding the awesome Trice Meteor):
>
> Haynes bike book, or Richards' (sic) Bicycle Repair Manual. Which is better? Who's seen either in
> the flesh?
>
> Guy
> ===

I happen to have both in front of me right now. My Richards' (there are two of them - Richards that
is) is a 1994 edition I bought when first attempting basic maintenance. The Haynes I got when first
attempting a full strip down and overhaul. It has more pictures, details and certainly inspired more
confidence in this beginner. The new edition covers V brakes, suspension forks and so on but if the
birthday boy is on an older bike the old edition would be fine, I'd say. I haven't seen a newer
edition of the Richards'. tony R.
 
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