While bodies rot, Bush acts like he couldn't care less — because he couldn't



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By Mark Drolette

As the unmitigated horror in New Orleans and environs unfolds and the type of immediate, massive government assistance that was needed from the earliest moments of Katrina's landfall Monday scandalously and unforgivably fails to materialize, it is impossible to miss how America's creeping third-world status has been given a mammoth storm surge of a push forward, abetted oh-so miserably well by George W. Bush's characteristically compassionless comportment.

As corpses decompose and diseases incubate, millions of us scream, "Where's Bush?" We do so knowingly, though, because it's obvious where he is: hiding. Doing what he's always done, not showing up when it counts, taking the easy way out, ducking responsibility, not giving a flying fig about anyone but himself. He's been handed absolutely everything in his putrid little (low)life, including two presidencies, and he sure isn't about to extend any effort now. Because, really, why bother? Most importantly, though: What's in it for him?

Though thoroughly disgusted and outraged yet again by Bush's behavior, I am not in the least bit surprised, something that could really only happen if Dubya were to somehow (by mistake, no doubt), actually do something human-like.

Having a country's "leader" go AWOL when tens of thousands of its citizens are in immediate distress and danger is, dare I say it, not the hallmark of a civilized nation. For those who mindlessly crow that "America is the greatest country in the world," take a good, hard, mortifying look at who is heading it -- straight into a living hell. Your main man -- the guy who, even were he videotaped with caked white powder around both nostrils, gleefully servicing his favorite heifer, and shot-gunning the reporter about to divulge that it ain't just brush Dubya clears out there in the back forty, you'd still support because, gol-dangit, he's "a good Christian" -- is less help right now than even Elvis to those in Katrina's wake since Bush hasn't even entered the building.



Instead, he does a meaningless little flyover, comfortably and detachedly "observing" the immensely wretched devastation from on high. He goes on Good Morning America to display crocodile tears over the area's straits while crocodiles are on display in the area's streets and says (per Nedra Pickler of the Associated Press) that he "just can't imagine waving a sign that says 'Come and get me now.'"

Well, of course he can't; he's a Bush, a member of the privileged, powerful clan that, from Prescott Bush's money-laundering days for the Nazis, to Poppy Bush's murderous years as CIA director/veep/president, to his own current reign of terror, has made and sustained its (America number one crime) family fortune on the broken backs and snuffed-out lives of millions of human beings, both home and abroad. The Bushes specialize in delivering destruction to people, not people from it, and not one of them ever need worry about holding a sign that says "Will work for helicopter ride."

Obviously, though, one can't be a good sacker or looter without holding humankind in utter contempt. So the trick is to convince enough people that you honestly care about them even while you suck their husks dry. With the invaluable assistance of a bribed, lapdog American whoreporate media, Dubya and his crew have managed to convey this image well enough to continue their pillaging. While millions of us have long recognized him for the fascist puppet he is, Dubya's handlers have nonetheless managed to paint him as "a regular guy" (though I've yet to understand what his bowel movements have to do with anything).

Bush's natural tendency to freeze, though, in the face of anything more trying than a paper cut, is on full display in Katrina's Dantesque aftermath. One of America's unique and most beloved cities is in anarchy. Whole parts of states have nightmarishly been turned into flooded and wrecked no-man's lands where people have gone without food, water, medicine, or shelter for days, and who are left to mind-bendingly wonder why no help is forthcoming.

Well, here's why: because they have a president who really isn't, and who also does not give a midget rat's ass about them. The only worrisome thing about Katrina's devastation to Bushco is bad press that may impede the whole rotten lot's ability to pursue their sole concern: the acquisition of (more) power and profits. Dubya and his administration, chock full of Poppy's longtime pals, have always looked at human beings as nothing more than disposable consumer units, whether they be American or otherwise.

To the Bushes and ilk, the whole world is their oyster; nationalities matter not. Borders are but mere constructs, pifflings that only concern the billions of people who both comprise a vast buyer base and naively believe that things like sovereignty should be respected. The Bush and their unkind kind consider natural resources -- anywhere -- to be theirs by birthright. If they have it already, they want to keep it. If they don't have it but think they may want it later, they will do anything to secure it for possible future use.

And whoever suffers in the robbing of those riches matters not, as long as the Bushes and the **** Cheneys and the Donald Rumsfelds and the Richard Perles and all the rest get their sickening split.

So, those suffering in New Orleans, Biloxi, and so many other places? What about 'em? Most of those who are so desperately struggling to survive after Katrina's brutal thrashing, hoping beyond hope that help will arrive before they perish, were poor to begin with; they sure as hell aren't any richer now. They've nothing to offer (read: steal), so: Who cares?

Not Dubya, that's for sure, 'cause nothing's in it for him. Besides hoping that our fellow citizens get help from somewhere, anywhere, before it is too late, the next best thing one can wish for is that enough people in this country will finally see George W. Bush for what he is: an utterly despicable, soulless, inhuman, cowardly cipher who couldn't care less about anything that happens to anyone who isn't him.
 
as a us citizen, i feel the neglect shown my countries' own people in time of need a telling indicator of the true priorities of the bush criminal syndcate.
the billions of dollars of unclaimed "homeland defense" funds sit tied up in red tape limbo while people go without rescue, food, water, medication, shelter and transportation.
the bush syndicate is not entirely to blame, though, as the congress pushed these bush syndicate measures through to fund a frivolous "war on terror" and now we see the taxpayers in their time of need going without adequate response resources.
the results are disatrous, but the outcome is sure to fuel outrage at bush, as he is so clearly out of touch with the basic needs of any emergency.
the folks who can pull through this without going hungry, the ones who can flash a credit card and carry on, will still feel neglected by bush as he fails to respond to the basic needs of their areas, including the lack of national gaurd to prevent looting, as they appear to be busy in number elswhere.
this is a country that has armed and transported a generation of able bodied citezens away from their loved ones while ignoring the basic necessities of life in time of disaster at home.
when this is the callous treatment of it's own citizens, one can only shudder at how those are treated at the hands of the criminal us led war effort.
to deny or minimize this is not only to be unconscionable but criminaly complicit.
the ones who have literaly nothing now, will feel the effects of true classcism and second class citizenship that poverty provides in the richest country on earth. also the number of blacks that are affected by the poor response will
predictably make for an even greater ani-bush sentiment in this demographic.

that a president can be so out of touch with reality to squander billions on a deceptive and criminal war effort for the benefit of multinational corporate interests and at the same time publicly state the disater victims need to understand this is the best that can be done raises the defintion of sardonic arrogance to a new height even for him.

reminds me of the situation in iraq, described by a soldier in a secure compound, while they dine on buffet fare outside the gates children are dying from diptheria, experiencing the maiming and loss of family and all they have known. as with the bush war, our leaders are safe in their secure locations while disaster takes it's human toll.

i remember speaking to staunch republicans who joined in number to vote clinton in, they stated they were displeased with an america they wanted to be proud of losing it's educational standard, economic strength and world trade position while unemployment rose. if that was enough to effect a change the ravages of the bush syndicate on the us will surely have an even greater backlash.
i just cannot believe elections are not until 2008, that the situation has gone so sour during such a short time in the second term of the bush crimal syndicate. as if the first term was not bad enough.
a good friend of mine has opined to participate in forums such as these will have no great effect until election year, but at the same time states the belief if you have ideas and do not get them across they do not exist.

so we must be responsible enough to not let up on the pressure and slip into complacency.




Wurm said:
By Mark Drolette

As the unmitigated horror in New Orleans and environs unfolds and the type of immediate, massive government assistance that was needed from the earliest moments of Katrina's landfall Monday scandalously and unforgivably fails to materialize, it is impossible to miss how America's creeping third-world status has been given a mammoth storm surge of a push forward, abetted oh-so miserably well by George W. Bush's characteristically compassionless comportment.

inhuman, cowardly cipher who couldn't care less about anything that happens to anyone who isn't him.
 
...and here's another opinion:

Quote: A note to our conservative friends:

WE TOLD YOU SO

Ever wonder why New Yorkers detest George Bush?

Because we experienced his incompetence up close and person. We knew this guy was full of ****, absolutely full of ****ing ****, after they started to play games with the funding and gave Wyoming terrorism money. We knew he was an assclown then.

We thought DC 9/11 was a comedy, because the Bush we saw hid in AF One like the scared ***** that he is.

But did you listen?

**** no. Until last week, Ann Coulter was calling New Yorkers cowards for not endorsing Bush's folly in Iraq.

We have been screaming for two years that Bush and his team sucked. That they had no clue. They sent soldiers to be wounded in Iraq without armored anything. And you idiots cheered him on from the safety of your keyboards. We told you he was ****ing up Iraq. But no, we supported Saddam, we were racist, we blamed America.

You say this isn't about politics? **** you, this IS politics, real time, real life politics, where the insanity of all your ideas are exposed to the world for the fraud that they are. Tax cuts kill. Ask the relatives of the dead of the Gulf Coast.

Well, people, the alligators are feasting on dead ****er and there isn't an Iraqi in sight. And Bush is trying to gladhand his way through a mess which has stunned FOX reporters. I mean, Shepard Smith is calling Fox's talking heads liars ON THE AIR.

CNN rips Bush in print and online after nearly five years of sleep.

Instead of hearing what we had to say about Bush, you called John Kerry a coward, mocked Max Cleland, blamed everything but herpes on Bill Clinton. You enabled Bush into this mess and now you're shocked?

Now, Fox can be outraged, now, Wash Times and Union Leader call Bush weak? Well, his coward ass disappeared in 2001. But you rather blame Michael Moore for that.

He can't even explain the Iraq war to a grieving mother.

So what did you do?

Write the most vile things about her and her dead son. Attacked her patriotism and her honesty.

Well, people, and that means you, fat ass Goldberg and your master, Rich Lowry, PNAC ***** Beinart, the racist wannabe white Malkin and the little ****tards at LGF, Bareback Andy and "Diversity" Instacracker, all you backstabbing, *** hating uncle tom ministers, you can see Dear Leader in action. America's largest port is gone, maybe forever, gas is $5+ a gallon and FEMA is coming. Whores come faster with old men than FEMA is getting to NOLA.

How did your wartime President react? Like Chiang Kai-Shek when the Yellow River flooded in 1944, with corrupt indifference.

Bush, the man your fever dreams built into the next Winston Churchill when he is really the live action Chauncey Gardiner, has failed to everyone, in plain sight, without question. Rick Perry is trying to save his ass, but it ain't working. NOLA looks like ANGOLA and that ain't flying.

Say 9/11 changed everything now, people. Ooops, 9/11, 9/11. 9/11. Doesn't work anymore? Gee, maybe the sea of alligator MRE's once known as the citizens of New Orleans has something to do with that. Now you can shut the **** up about 9/11. Bush just proved what would happen with another 9/11. Dead Americans as far as the nose can smell.

Drunken Chris Hitchens muttered some nonsense about blacks having it so good here. The poor man needs to stay in his bottle or go to Betty Ford before someone beats his treasonous ass stupid. Islamofascism means what, now motherfucker? Shove Islamofascism up your well travelled ass. The most dangerous thing to average Americans is not some mullah in Iraq, not even Osama Bin Laden, but George Bush. If he doesn't get you killed in Iraq, he'll **** up saving your city so it turns into Escape from New Orleans. Armed junkies roaming the streets, looking for a fix, robbing and looting like Serb paramilitaries and about as sober.

George Bush's ineptitude has killed far more Americans than Osama could have dreamed of.

Some of you still try to see the clothes on the Dauphin, but he's as naked as Peter North around Jenna Jameson. Bush ****ed up so bad, FOX turned on him like a rabid dog.

You can't hide behind racism forever. Bush ****ed up, Bush is a weak, callous leader and the world knows this like it knows few other things. And all the stolen TV's in the world cannot hide that.
 
Let's hear zapper, Colorado Ryder, and crithater lie their way out of this one.


*crickets chirping*
 
this turning of the tide in the media is perhaps the most telling indicator in the us of the impending downfall the bush syndicate, as this is a news media that was nothing more than a sickening cheerleader for all bush syndicate initial warfare, while at the same time ignoring the facts of the toll on the countries
caught in us invasion.

also neatly ignored were domestic issues such as poor academic scores, rising unemployment, poor stock market performance, enron type offshore money laundering, weakend us economy, loss of income for the majority while the small minority of bush syndicate family and friends profit from high bid sweetheart deals and tax breaks, social services slashed, rising poverty, rising infant mortality rates, election rigging revelations, shipping us jobs overseas, enviromental controls lessened, these were all swept under the rug as the corporate sponsors cannot sell this.

the very idea that charity begins at home, now can resonate in a all too practical example, when the basic needs of a nation cannot be met.
and this the richest nation in the world, the nation that would claim to offer
"a shining beacon of freedom", according to its' so-called elected leader.

but now, do not expect too much in the way of forthrightness from the media, all the details that are not selling will not be focused on, keeping the population in the dark and not getting the whole picture.

it is just that the 800 lb. gorilla sitting on the tv set is just too difficult for the commercial media to hide at this point.
soon it will be ok for the true us citizenry, contributing members of society, and working person to openly criticize bush and not be labled unpatriotic. too support bush publicly right now, i just advise stay the hell away from the increasing numbers who probably just don't wanna hear it. there is a level of tolerance that gets crossed at a certain point, as a boxer friend of mine told me,
"even a bunny rabbit will attack vicously if provoked enough".
soon the senators and congressmen wil really have something to prattle on about, making the impeachment of clinton seem like the true pile 'o steamy bogus moralizing at the taxpayer's expense it really was.





Wurm said:
...and here's another opinion:






Quote: A note to our conservative friends:




WE TOLD YOU SO

Well, , the alligators are feasting and there isn't an Iraqi in sight. And Bush is trying to gladhand his way through a mess which has stunned FOX reporters. I mean, Shepard Smith is calling Fox's talking heads liars ON THE AIR.

CNN rips Bush in print and online after nearly five years of sleep.

Now, Fox can be outraged, now, Wash Times and Union Leader call Bush weak? Well, his coward ass disappeared in 2001. But you rather blame Michael Moore for that.

He can't even explain the Iraq war to a grieving mother.

So what did you do?

Write the most vile things about her and her dead son. Attacked her patriotism and her honesty.


Some of you still try to see the clothes on the Dauphin, but he's as naked as Peter North around Jenna Jameson. Bush ****ed up so bad, FOX turned on him like a rabid dog.

Bush is a weak, callous leader and the world knows this like it knows few other things. And all the stolen TV's in the world cannot hide that.



 
The media here is reporting that there has finally been some aid arriving in New Orleans. We have been witnessing some tragic scenes on TV of the suffering in Louisiana. Initially I had no idea this was actually a humanitarian catastrophe. Initial reports suggested it was just a nasty hurricane.
Last night there was some footage of Bush hugging some people who were themselves in tears. It seemed to me to be genuine compassion from Bush and not just an act he was putting on but that's hard for anyone to judge for sure. Bush seemed to be in the same situation as Vladimir Putin who had to face the anger of the people of Beslan.
Let's not forget, though, that nobody expected a hurricane on this scale. New Orleans has been hit by the equivalent of an atomic bomb. It's a terrible tragedy. People are in panic, they lost their homes, their loved ones and everything they worked for.
Even Fidel Castro has offered to send medical teams from his country and any assistance he can provide. Help has been slow to arrive but I think the hurricane has turned out to be far more potent than anyone imagined.
All we guys from Australia and the U.K. or Europe can give money via the American Red Cross. Despite the initial delay I believe these people will now begin to get the help they need and convoys are finally getting into the disaster zone.
 
Carrera said:
The media here is reporting that there has finally been some aid arriving in New Orleans. We have been witnessing some tragic scenes on TV of the suffering in Louisiana. Initially I had no idea this was actually a humanitarian catastrophe. Initial reports suggested it was just a nasty hurricane.
Last night there was some footage of Bush hugging some people who were themselves in tears. It seemed to me to be genuine compassion from Bush and not just an act he was putting on but that's hard for anyone to judge for sure. Bush seemed to be in the same situation as Vladimir Putin who had to face the anger of the people of Beslan.
Let's not forget, though, that nobody expected a hurricane on this scale. New Orleans has been hit by the equivalent of an atomic bomb. It's a terrible tragedy. People are in panic, they lost their homes, their loved ones and everything they worked for.
Even Fidel Castro has offered to send medical teams from his country and any assistance he can provide. Help has been slow to arrive but I think the hurricane has turned out to be far more potent than anyone imagined.
All we guys from Australia and the U.K. or Europe can give money via the American Red Cross. Despite the initial delay I believe these people will now begin to get the help they need and convoys are finally getting into the disaster zone.
It might be a good idea to check a few of your facts.

Firstly, everyone in the know absolutely did expect a hurricane of this magnitude and they expected... make that, "warned" about it hitting this year. What did Bush do? He continued with his program of cutting funds for flood control in that region of the U.S. Since 2001 he's cut funding for flood control by over 44%. He was warned, practically pleaded with concerning the existing levee system's inability to handle a category 5 hurricane. He was repeatedly told that with the continued escalation of storm severity in that area, a category five hurricane was imminent. But still, he ignored the problem and now that it has happened, he continues to ignore the problem.

As to the video you referenced, did you not notice that the streets he walked down were completely abandoned by all but the two female victims he was hugging? While other parts of the area are lined with homeless, starving and dying people, he walked through an area that was without a sole, save him and his plain-clothes entourage. They may have wasted 20 minutes of television just reshowing those images over and over but it doesn't take long for one to recognize the true Bush agenda where this tragedy is concerned.

While Australia is donating 7.6 million dollars, Japan has pledged $200,000 in aid and another $300,000 in supplies and Tony Blair has assured us that Britain will "stand by to react", our own ermergency management agency has stood around in near complete ineffectivness. Even CNN clearly pointed out that FEMA has been ineffective during an interview of the Bush appointed Mike Brown, current FEMA chief. He was asked why the 50,000 people housed at the convention center have received almost no aid and he attempted to suggest that FEMA officials had not been made aware that anyone was housed there until Friday morning, (Sept 2, 2005). Solidad O'Brien pointed out to him that CNN had been broadcasting video of all the people there in need of help but he just continued to say that FEMA would be delivering aid. When she used the example of massive food drops to Indonesia only 2-days after the tsunami, Mr. Brown interrupted her to say that FEMA "will be doing that here". But the storm passed through 6-days ago and still FEMA has failed to deliver. From that moment on, he refused to stop talking and allow Soledad to make her point that FEMA is not doing what they are supposed to be doing. They're largely turning a blind-eye to the situation and instead, continuing to assure people that they "will be" delivering aid. When? When all the other countries of the world have already financed the rescues?

And what was Bush's response? He publically commended Mr. Brown for doing such a fine job. One must wonder if his real job is to see that aid is rendered to those in need or if it is to make sure that no federal funds are spent in this country instead of being spent on the war toys Mr. Bush has made such a market for.

This is disgusting and purely unacceptable. That people can even suggest that Bush shouldn't be held directly and immediately accountable for this travesty is sickening.
 
Wurm said:
*crickets chirping*

Islamofascism means what, now motherfucker? Shove Islamofascism up your well travelled ass. The most dangerous thing to average Americans is not some mullah in Iraq, not even Osama Bin Laden, but George Bush. If he doesn't get you killed in Iraq, he'll **** up saving your city so it turns into Escape from New Orleans. Armed junkies roaming the streets, looking for a fix, robbing and looting like Serb paramilitaries and about as sober.

George Bush's ineptitude has killed far more Americans than Osama could have dreamed of.

Some of you still try to see the clothes on the Dauphin, but he's as naked as Peter North around Jenna Jameson. Bush ****ed up so bad, FOX turned on him like a rabid dog.

You can't hide behind racism forever. Bush ****ed up, Bush is a weak, callous leader and the world knows this like it knows few other things. And all the stolen TV's in the world cannot hide that.

I could'nt have put it better myself. The rich will just put thier taxcuts into thier behemoth Hummer's :mad: while the citizens, down south, starve.
 
The reaction over here has been one of shock. They're saying that Bush will be damaged severely unless things start to happen rapidly and relief comes to those stricken people. There is amazement that a country as rich and developed as America would fail to get help to the more vulnerable Americans in a time of crisis.
However the case may be, people are going to be angry. It was the same in Russia over the Kursk and Beslan when Putin was blasted for not doing enough. So, I think Bush will be finished unless he can deliver and get aid into New Orleans because this is a lot worse than the kursk or Belan or maybe even 9/11.
What I do know is we initially got reports over here that Katrina would be a bad hurricane and when it broke, they were reporting a lot of damage but no humanitarian catastrophe. Now we are informed of possibly thousands of people dead, gunmen roaming and looting the streets, rapes going on and old folks dying of thirst.
It would have been better to have evacuated the entire area way before the hurricane struck. Don't blame you for feeling angry.

Beastt said:
It might be a good idea to check a few of your facts.

Firstly, everyone in the know absolutely did expect a hurricane of this magnitude and they expected... make that, "warned" about it hitting this year. What did Bush do? He continued with his program of cutting funds for flood control in that region of the U.S. Since 2001 he's cut funding for flood control by over 44%. He was warned, practically pleaded with concerning the existing levee system's inability to handle a category 5 hurricane. He was repeatedly told that with the continued escalation of storm severity in that area, a category five hurricane was imminent. But still, he ignored the problem and now that it has happened, he continues to ignore the problem.

As to the video you referenced, did you not notice that the streets he walked down were completely abandoned by all but the two female victims he was hugging? While other parts of the area are lined with homeless, starving and dying people, he walked through an area that was without a sole, save him and his plain-clothes entourage. They may have wasted 20 minutes of television just reshowing those images over and over but it doesn't take long for one to recognize the true Bush agenda where this tragedy is concerned.

While Australia is donating 7.6 million dollars, Japan has pledged $200,000 in aid and another $300,000 in supplies and Tony Blair has assured us that Britain will "stand by to react", our own ermergency management agency has stood around in near complete ineffectivness. Even CNN clearly pointed out that FEMA has been ineffective during an interview of the Bush appointed Mike Brown, current FEMA chief. He was asked why the 50,000 people housed at the convention center have received almost no aid and he attempted to suggest that FEMA officials had not been made aware that anyone was housed there until Friday morning, (Sept 2, 2005). Solidad O'Brien pointed out to him that CNN had been broadcasting video of all the people there in need of help but he just continued to say that FEMA would be delivering aid. When she used the example of massive food drops to Indonesia only 2-days after the tsunami, Mr. Brown interrupted her to say that FEMA "will be doing that here". But the storm passed through 6-days ago and still FEMA has failed to deliver. From that moment on, he refused to stop talking and allow Soledad to make her point that FEMA is not doing what they are supposed to be doing. They're largely turning a blind-eye to the situation and instead, continuing to assure people that they "will be" delivering aid. When? When all the other countries of the world have already financed the rescues?

And what was Bush's response? He publically commended Mr. Brown for doing such a fine job. One must wonder if his real job is to see that aid is rendered to those in need or if it is to make sure that no federal funds are spent in this country instead of being spent on the war toys Mr. Bush has made such a market for.

This is disgusting and purely unacceptable. That people can even suggest that Bush shouldn't be held directly and immediately accountable for this travesty is sickening.
 
I agree that the response from FEMA has been totally pathetic at best... but one thing that bugs me more than anything else is that now the race card is being played and everyone is saying there is no response because everyone needing help is black... Why can't people see FEMA would be totally useless even if everyone there happened to be poor, fat, and dumb white folks as well. I hate it when the race card is played when in all likelihood it has nothing to do with it. :mad:
 
regardless, racial demographics were hit and hit hard. the majority of those needing urgent help will now turn in even greater numbers against bush as this represents a failure of his republic and it's limited capacity to respond to the very people to whom it is responsible.



wilmar13 said:
I agree that the response from FEMA has been totally pathetic at best... but one thing that bugs me more than anything else is that now the race card is being played and everyone is saying there is no response because everyone needing help is black... Why can't people see FEMA would be totally useless even if everyone there happened to be poor, fat, and dumb white folks as well. I hate it when the race card is played when in all likelihood it has nothing to do with it. :mad:
 
Carrera said:
Last night there was some footage of Bush hugging some people who were themselves in tears. It seemed to me to be genuine compassion from Bush and not just an act he was putting on but that's hard for anyone to judge for sure.
Merely a quick photo-op for this cretin to try to salvage some kind of credibility, but it remains as always: he HAS none.

"http://www.warandpiece.com/blogdirs/002485.html

Dutch viewer Frank Tiggelaar writes:

There was a striking discrepancy between the CNN International report on the Bush visit to the New Orleans disaster zone, yesterday, and reports of the same event by German TV. ZDF News reported that the president's visit was a completely staged event.

Their crew witnessed how the open air food distribution point Bush visited in front of the cameras was torn down immediately after the president and the herd of 'news people' had left and that others which were allegedly being set up were abandoned at the same time.

The people in the area were once again left to fend for themselves, said ZDF."


Let's not forget, though, that nobody expected a hurricane on this scale.
That's ******** Carrera and you know it. A Cat. 5 monster storm - the likes of Camille, Andrew, and others in U.S. history - was staring LA/MS/AL down the throat for at least 2 days prior to its coming ashore. The Federal gov't did nothing to prepare for it, other than to perhaps say, "Watch out! There's a hurricane coming."

Period.

You know Carrera, I for one am really sick of your

disingenuous

Bush apologist postings. Maybe you need to pop your head out of your ass for a change and look around you.

I hope that was succinct enough for you to understand.

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dis·in·gen·u·ous adj.


  1. Not straightforward or candid; insincere or calculating: “an ambitious, disingenuous, philistine, and hypocritical operator, who... exemplified... the most disagreeable traits of his time” (David Cannadine).
  2. Pretending to be unaware or unsophisticated; faux-naïf.
 
Carrera said:
The reaction over here has been one of shock. They're saying that Bush will be damaged severely unless things start to happen rapidly and relief comes to those stricken people. There is amazement that a country as rich and developed as America would fail to get help to the more vulnerable Americans in a time of crisis.
However the case may be, people are going to be angry. It was the same in Russia over the Kursk and Beslan when Putin was blasted for not doing enough. So, I think Bush will be finished unless he can deliver and get aid into New Orleans because this is a lot worse than the kursk or Belan or maybe even 9/11.
What I do know is we initially got reports over here that Katrina would be a bad hurricane and when it broke, they were reporting a lot of damage but no humanitarian catastrophe. Now we are informed of possibly thousands of people dead, gunmen roaming and looting the streets, rapes going on and old folks dying of thirst.
It would have been better to have evacuated the entire area way before the hurricane struck. Don't blame you for feeling angry.
What's Bush going to do :confused: He "bled The Treasury dry" what w/ Iraq & his presious tax-cuts to the wealthiest American's :mad:
 
First off I am not defending anyone,but have you actually talked to anyone from the affected area.
I have and know that people refused to evacuate. That buses lined up and left mostly empty.
90,000 square mile were affected not just New Orleans.
No credit to Bush ,but I believe in personal responsibility and a lot of those people ,in fact most, could have left the area but chose to stay.
They are a product of our society and they are people that are not use to making decisions, but waiting for the government to take care of them.
I guess I just don't think that way.
If I am left homless I really don't expect anyone to bail me out.
Maybe I have been thinking wrong all these years.
I do hope they get all they help possible. I just think it is time people are required to be held accountable for their own decisions.
 
jhuskey said:
First off I am not defending anyone,but have you actually talked to anyone from the affected area.
I have and know that people refused to evacuate. That buses lined up and left mostly empty.
90,000 square mile were affected not just New Orleans.
No credit to Bush ,but I believe in personal responsibility and a lot of those people ,in fact most, could have left the area but chose to stay.

I suspect that a lot of the people who chose to stay were the ones with insuffcient disposable income to cover the travel & living away from home expenses. Let's face it living away from home for a few months is going to cost some serious dough... It's not as if it would necessarily be easy to get work away from home too, the job figures for this month are well down I note.

jhuskey said:
If I am left homless I really don't expect anyone to bail me out.

You might have zero choice in the matter.

jhuskey said:
Maybe I have been thinking wrong all these years.
I do hope they get all they help possible. I just think it is time people are required to be held accountable for their own decisions.

Life is rarely fair. :p

I am somewhat surprised to see the world contributing oil reserves to the richest country in the world... So rich that it accounts for half of the global "defense" spending ! Seems kinda weird to help out a country that has blown it's emergency funding on spreading violence around the globe.
 
darkboong said:
I am somewhat surprised to see the world contributing oil reserves to the richest country in the world... So rich that it accounts for half of the global "defense" spending ! Seems kinda weird to help out a country that has blown it's emergency funding on spreading violence around the globe.
Just keep those donations flowing in part'ner ;)
 
jhuskey said:
First off I am not defending anyone,but have you actually talked to anyone from the affected area.
I have and know that people refused to evacuate. That buses lined up and left mostly empty.
90,000 square mile were affected not just New Orleans.
No credit to Bush ,but I believe in personal responsibility and a lot of those people ,in fact most, could have left the area but chose to stay.
They are a product of our society and they are people that are not use to making decisions, but waiting for the government to take care of them.
I guess I just don't think that way.
If I am left homless I really don't expect anyone to bail me out.
Maybe I have been thinking wrong all these years.
I do hope they get all they help possible. I just think it is time people are required to be held accountable for their own decisions.

Yeah RIGHT. That's what they all did - stayed in the path of the thing on purpose, hoping they wouldn't get killed so they could get a nice new house from the Gubmint.

How many times have you heard that horseshit repeated to you on Faux News??

While you're thinking you're "not defending anyone", you're certainly offending hundreds of thousands of people in one fell swoop.

Here's something I'll bet you didn't hear on the Neo-Con Propaganda Network: IF those people were assuming their homes would be destroyed by the storm and wanted to glom off the Gubmint afterwords, why wouldn't they have simply fled to safety and come back later to make their claims?

IDYUT.


 
Wurm said:
Yeah RIGHT. That's what they all did - stayed in the path of the thing on purpose, hoping they wouldn't get killed so they could get a nice new house from the Gubmint.

How many times have you heard that horseshit repeated to you on Faux News??

While you're thinking you're "not defending anyone", you're certainly offending hundreds of thousands of people in one fell swoop.

Here's something I'll bet you didn't hear on the Neo-Con Propaganda Network: IF those people were assuming their homes would be destroyed by the storm and wanted to glom off the Gubmint afterwords, why wouldn't they have simply fled to safety and come back later to make their claims?

IDYUT.




I did not hear it from any news source I heard it from people that were there. It is fact that people do not wish to leave their homes no matter what the risk.
I guess it is just human nature.
I have been left homless by a landslide and if not for family I would have been up **** creek.
The truth is offensive I guess.
As far as statements about giving aid to a country that has waged war I don't believe any of the demographics involved are decision makers and had litttle to do with world affairs.
As far as being politically correct I don't give rats ass I call it like I see it.
Beyond friends and family, in this world, you are on your own.
 
jhuskey said:
I just think it is time people are required to be held accountable for their own decisions.
Are you sure you are an attorney? What a strange concept... take responsibility for your own actions and decisions? I for one prefer to point fingers and criticize in hindsight (everyone but myself that is).
 

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