Who is Jesus?



On Thu, 08 Mar 2007 15:17:46 -0600, A Muzi <[email protected]>
wrote:

>>>>> "Tim McTeague" wrote: (clip) While I don't believe in ANY Gods or
>>>>> Easter bunnies I did find a picture of Jesus on a bike.

>
>>>> Leo Lichtman writes:
>>>>> I have a similar picture of Albert Einstein on a bike. Is it
>>>>> possible they were the same person. That might explain how Einstein
>>>>> was able to think of things that others did not.

>
>>> [email protected] wrote:
>>>> Just the same Wikipedia would have rejected his writings because he
>>>> could cite no sources, and beyond that, he didn't do the research for
>>>> e=mc^2, it was obvious to him, just as riding a bicycle, something he
>>>> rarely did.

>
>> A Muzi <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> I wondered about that.
>>> In the famous photo he doesn't appear graceful or comfortable on the bike.

>
>[email protected] wrote:
>> Hmmm . . . Here's the picture:
>> http://imagine.gsfc.nasa.gov/docs/teachers/blackholes/imagine/einstein.jpg
>> Hundreds of copies can be found on Google Images.
>> Try to look at it without any preconceptions.
>> A smiling man with white hair is riding a commuter-style bicycle in
>> what looks like a courtyard and turning to avoid the camera.
>> How would anyone look more graceful or comfortable? He's probably
>> turning at low speed and posing for the camera.
>> The picture was taken "at the home of Ben Meyer in Santa Barbara,
>> California, on February 18, 1933."
>> http://www.amnh.org/exhibitions/einstein/sitecredits.php

>-snip extraneous-
>
>Carl, I'm very familiar. A tenant hung that picture in my living room
>for 4 years. I thought he looked odd on the bike when I first saw it and
>I still think he looks odd on the bike. YMMV.


Dear Andrew,

I'll buy odd, but saying that he doesn't look graceful or comfortable
seems a little different.

Of course, you may have high standards for what someone should look
like on such bicycles.

To illustrate things, notice anything odd about this smiling fashion
model bicyclist? She's wearing a red cap tipped well back to show her
carefully teased bangs, her arched eyebrows, faint blue eye-shadow,
dimpled apple-cheeks, and bee-stung lower lip:

http://i17.tinypic.com/2qsp7aa.jpg

Take a good look before scrolling down. Is there anything odd about
her?


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Here's the full picture of the fashion model bicyclist:

http://www.yellowjersey.org/sports.html

:)

When a commercial illustrator spends most of his time drawing pictures
of pretty girls smiling, sometimes it's hard to stop drawing them,
even when it looks a little odd.

I'm not sure that I'd say that he/she doesn't look comfortable.

But I agree--if Einstein looks odd, graceless, or uncomfortable on
that bike to you, that's how he looks.

Cheers,

Carl Fogel
 
> Dear Andrew,
>
> I'll buy odd, but saying that he doesn't look graceful or comfortable
> seems a little different.
>
> Of course, you may have high standards for what someone should look
> like on such bicycles.
>
> To illustrate things, notice anything odd about this smiling fashion
> model bicyclist? She's wearing a red cap tipped well back to show her
> carefully teased bangs, her arched eyebrows, faint blue eye-shadow,
> dimpled apple-cheeks, and bee-stung lower lip:
>
> http://i17.tinypic.com/2qsp7aa.jpg
>
> Take a good look before scrolling down. Is there anything odd about
> her?


Yes -- NO HOOTERS!!

Carl, that's a MAN in DRAG!!

The teased bangs and whatnot are easy to fake -- just put david bowie
or michael jackson in Google images.

When a commercial illustrator spends most of his time drawing pictures
of pretty girls with chests like Kansas, something is definately very
odd indeed.

> But I agree--if Einstein looks odd, graceless, or uncomfortable on
> that bike to you, that's how he looks.


But hey, if she looks pretty to you, then... she is pretty.

Cheers!
Doug
 
"Ozark Bicycle" <[email protected]> writes:

> On Mar 7, 11:34 pm, "moslim" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> <snipped>
>
> - on The Supreme Being -
>
>>
>> God is All Knowing

>
>>
>> God is All Powerful

>
>
>> God does not have a God

>
>
>> No one is greater than God

>
>
> And he posts to RBT from stanfordalumni.org! ;-)


Jesus! Talk about pack mentality. Closest I could come at the
beloved Wiki was "Herd behavior":

Herd behavior in animals

The case of animals evading a predator illustrates the uncoordinated
nature of herd behavior. It can be shown that each individual can
minimise the danger to itself by choosing the location and behavior
that is as close to the center of the group as possible; this was the
subject of a famous paper by evolutionary biologist W. D. Hamilton
called Geometry For The Selfish Herd. The herd thus appears to act as
one in always moving and acting together, but its behavior emerges
from the uncoordinated behavior of self-seeking individuals.

I always seek the center of the pack, along with everyone else,
(except when declaring my atheism), but commonly find myself getting
pushed over the center line by some uncoordinated self seeking clod
that looks like he just conceived some special theory and who reminds
me of a VERY tenured math professor who showed up in class on several
occasions in his PJ tops.

Bill Westphal
 
On Mar 9, 4:46 am, Bill Westphal <[email protected]> wrote:
> "Ozark Bicycle" <[email protected]> writes:
> > On Mar 7, 11:34 pm, "moslim" <[email protected]> wrote:

>
> > <snipped>

>
> > - on The Supreme Being -

>
> >> God is All Knowing

>
> >> God is All Powerful

>
> >> God does not have a God

>
> >> No one is greater than God

>
> > And he posts to RBT from stanfordalumni.org! ;-)

>
> Jesus! Talk about pack mentality. Closest I could come at the
> beloved Wiki was "Herd behavior":
>
> Herd behavior in animals
>
> The case of animals evading a predator illustrates the uncoordinated
> nature of herd behavior. It can be shown that each individual can
> minimise the danger to itself by choosing the location and behavior
> that is as close to the center of the group as possible; this was the
> subject of a famous paper by evolutionary biologist W. D. Hamilton
> called Geometry For The Selfish Herd. The herd thus appears to act as
> one in always moving and acting together, but its behavior emerges
> from the uncoordinated behavior of self-seeking individuals.
>
> I always seek the center of the pack, along with everyone else,
> (except when declaring my atheism), but commonly find myself getting
> pushed over the center line by some uncoordinated self seeking clod
> that looks like he just conceived some special theory and who reminds
> me of a VERY tenured math professor who showed up in class on several
> occasions in his PJ tops.
>
>


What are you babbling about?
 
All right, let's get back on-topic...

A guy dies and is met at the Pearly Gates by St. Peter. Peter is giving
him is welcome when a bright light flashes past with what sounds like
chain sounds. They guy asks what that was. Peter replies, "Oh, that's
God, pretending he's Eddy Merckx."

moslim wrote:
> Without a doubt, you have often heard the claim that Jesus is God, the
> second person in the "Holy trinity." However, the very Bible which is
> used as a basis for knowledge about Jesus and as the basis for
> doctrine within Christianity clearly belies this claim. We urge you to
> consult your own Bible and verify that the following conclusions are
> not drawn out of context:
>
> 1. God is All Knowing.....but Jesus was not
> When speaking of the day of judgment, Jesus clearly gave evidence of a
> limitation on his knowledge when he said, "but of that day and hour
> knoweth no man, no, not the angels which are in Heaven, neither the
> son, but the Father." Mark 13:32, and Matt 24:36. But God knows all.
> His knowledge is without any limitations. That Jesus, of his own
> admission, did not know when the day of judgment would be, is clear
> proof that Jesus is not all-knowing, and that Jesus is therefore not
> God.
>
> 2. God is All Powerful.....but Jesus was not
> While Jesus performed many miracles, he himself admitted that the
> power he had was not his own but was derived from God when he said,
> "Verily, verily I say unto you, the Son can do nothing of himself, but
> what he seeth the Father do..." St. John 5:19. Again he said, "I can
> of mine own self do nothing: as I hear I judge: and my judgment is
> just; because I seek not mine own will, but the will of the Father
> which hath sent me." St. John 5:30. But God is not only all-powerful,
> He is also the source of all power and authority. That Jesus, of his
> own admission, could do nothing on his own is clear proof that Jesus
> is not all-powerful, and that therefore Jesus is not God.
>
> 3. God does not have a God.....but Jesus did have a God.
> God is the ultimate judge and refuge for all, and He does not call
> upon nor pray to any others. But Jesus acknowledged that there was one
> whom he worshipped and to whom he prayed when he said, "l ascend unto
> my Father and your Father, and to my God and your God." St. John
> 20:17. He is also reported to have cried out while on the cross, "My
> God, my God why hast thou forsaken me?" Matt 27:46. If Jesus were God,
> then couldn't this be read, "Myself, myself why hast thou forsaken
> me?" Would that not be pure nonsense? When Jesus prayed the Lord's
> prayer (Luke 11:2-4), was he praying to himself? When in the garden of
> Gethsemane he prayed, "O my Father, if it be possible, let this cup
> pass from me: Nevertheless not as I will but as thou wilt." Matt
> 26:36-39. Was Jesus praying to himself? That Jesus, of his own
> admission and by his own actions, acknowledged, worshipped, and prayed
> to another being as God is clear proof that Jesus himself is not God.
>
> 4. God is an invisible spirit.....but Jesus was flesh and blood
> While thousands saw Jesus and heard his voice, Jesus himself said that
> this could not be done with God when he said. "No man hath seen God at
> any time." St. John 1:18. '"Ye have neither heard His voice at any
> time nor seen His shape." St. John 5:37. He also said in St. John
> 4:24. "God is a spirit and they that worship him must worship him in
> spirit and in truth." That Jesus would say that no one had seen or
> heard God at any time, while his followers both saw and heard him, is
> clear proof that Jesus was not God.
>
> 5. No one is greater than God and no one can direct Him but Jesus
> acknowledged someone greater than himself whose will was distinct from
> his own.
> Perhaps the clearest indication we have that Jesus and God are not
> equal, and therefore not one and the same, come again from the mouth
> of Jesus himself who said in St. John 14:28, "My Father is greater
> than I." When someone referred to him as good master in Matt 19:17,
> Jesus responded, "Why callest thou me good? There is none good but
> one, that is God..." Furthermore, Jesus drew clear distinctions
> between himself and God when he said, "I proceeded forth and came from
> God, neither came I of myself but He sent me." St. John 8:42. Jesus
> gave clear evidence of his subordination to God, rather than his
> equality with God,when he said in Luke 22:42, "not my will but thine
> be done" and in St. John 5:30, "I seek not mine own will but the will
> of the Father which hath sent me." That Jesus would admit that he did
> not come into the world on his own initiative but was directed to do
> so, that he would acknowledge another being as greater than himself,
> and that he would negate his own will in deference to affirming the
> will of another, give clear proof that Jesus is not the Supreme One
> and therefore Jesus is not God.
>
> Conclusion
> The Church recognizes the Bible as the primary source of knowledge
> about God and Jesus. But since the Bible makes it clear that Jesus is
> not the Supreme Being and the Supreme Being is not Jesus, upon what
> basis have you come to believe otherwise?
>
> My brother or sister, the belief that the Supreme Being is a Trinity
> is false and completely inconsistent with the words of Jesus as
> presented in the Bible. God is one, not three. He is a perfect unity.
>
> If you are interested in the truth about God and your relationship to
> Him, we invite you to investigate the religion of Islam.
>
>
> What is the word of God about Jesus:
>
> A. Regarding Sonship of Jesus:
> That is Jesus, son of Mary, in word of truth, concerning which they
> are doubting. It is not for God to take a son unto Him. Glory be to
> Him! When He decrees a thing he but says to it "Be", and it is.
> (Qur'an 19:34,35).
>
> And they say, 'The All-merciful has taken unto Himself a son.' You
> have indeed advanced something hideous. The heavens are well nigh rent
> of it and the earth split asunder, and the mountains well nigh fall
> down crashing for that they have attributed to the All-Merciful a son;
> and it behoves not the All-Merciful to take a son. None is there in
> the heavens and earth but comes to the All-Merciful as a servant
> (Qur'an 19:88-93).
>
> Truly the likeness of Jesus, in God's sight, is as Adam's likeness; He
> created him of dust, then said He unto him, "Be", and he was. (Qur'an
> 3:59).
>
> People of the Book, go not beyond the bounds in your religion, and say
> not as to God but the Truth. The Messiah, Jesus, son of Mary, was only
> the Messenger of God, and His Word that He committed to Mary, and a
> spirit from Him. So believe in God and His Messengers. and say not,
> 'Three', Refrain, better is it for you. God is only One God. Glory be
> on Him - that He should have a son! To Him belongs that which is in
> the heavens and on the earth, God suffices for a guardian. (Qur'an
> 4:171)
>
> B. Regarding Jesus being God:
> And when God said. 'O Jesus son of Mary,did you say unto men, "Take me
> and my mother as gods, apart from God?" He Said, 'To You be Glory! It
> is not mine to say what I have no right to. If I indeed said it, You
> knew it, knowing what is within my soul, and I do not know what is
> within Your soul; You know the things unseen. I only said to them what
> You did command me: "Serve God, my Lord and your Lord." And I was a
> witness over them, while I remained among them; but when You did take
> me to Yourself the Watcher over them; You are the witness of
> everything. (Quran 5:116,117)
>
> C. Regarding Crucifiction of Jesus:
> And for their unbelief, and their uttering against Mary a mighty
> calumny, and for their saying, 'We slew the Messiah, Jesus son of
> Mary, the Messenger of God'...yet they did not slay him, neither
> crucified him, only a likeness of that was shown to them. Those who
> are at variance concerning him surely are in doubt regarding him, they
> have no knowledge of him, except the following of surmise; and they
> did not slay him of certainty... no indeed, God raised him up to Him;
> God is Almighty, All-Wise. There is not one of the people of the Book
> but will assuredly believe in him before his death, and on the
> Resurrection Day he will be a witness against them. (Qur'an 4:156-159)
>
 
On Mar 10, 10:31 am, [email protected] wrote:
> try-
>
> Via Novi, 39. Tel. 0143 608585


I called for delivery, but now I can't find the Pope in the pizza. Was
the sausage a bad idea?
 
On Mar 10, 8:58 pm, [email protected] wrote:
> is that what's done in the ozark's?


I dunno.....I'm not even sure if it's a digestive aid or a saddle
these days. ;-)


> in denver they take amphetimines



For indigestion, or to see Jesus?
 
"I dunno..?"

> > in denver they take amphetimines

>
> For indigestion, or to see Jesus?


that wasn't clear
first indigestion then jesus
or jesus then indigestion?

a film fersure!

finding a cycle route across the country what with all the detours...
adds more than a day and half
 
news travels slowly:

Essential beliefs of Islam include: things are predestined by the will
of Allah. This emphasis gives Islam an atmosphere of fatalism. The
most frequent statement among devout Muslims is "if God wills it."
 
On Mar 11, 3:57 pm, "[email protected]" <[email protected]> wrote:
> news travels slowly, jesus is slipping off the chart
>
> Essential beliefs of Islam include: things are predestined by the will
> of Allah. This emphasis gives Islam an atmosphere of fatalism. The
> most frequent statement among devout Muslims is "if God wills it."


off course, it was willed the area had few coal deposits and
decreasing rain, decreasing food supplies, decreasing bronze: a tech
history persians are looking to vault over.