Who should go to worlds? U23's



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John

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Who should go to worlds in U23's?
I saw that the Ian kid was 13mins back in his first race in europe.
If he can not race with some of the best U23's, what would happen if
he raced with all of them at the World Championships?


These are from a 2.7.1 = Triptyque des Barrages

1 ENNEKENS Stijns Deschacht-E.Merckx (B) 4:06:40
2 VAN DER ZANDEN Tim De Jonge Renner (PB) à 0:01
3 POZZOVIVO Domenico Nationale Italie mt
4 KEISSE Iljo Jong Vlaanderen 2016 (B) à 0:09
5 BERNAUDEAU Giovanni Vendée U Pays de la Loire à 0:20
6 HANSEEUW Jelle Firestone Lombarden (B) mt
7 GEENS Dimitri Profel Cycling Team (B) mt
8 VANDEWALLE Kristof WG Beveren 2000 (B) mt
9 REUS Kai Rabobank GS3 (PB) à 0:25
10 NEVENS Sven Deschacht-E.Merckx (B) à 0:30
11 DUMOULIN Mirando Firestone Lombarden (B) mt
12 ROELANDTS Jurgen Jong Vlaanderen 2016 (B) mt
13 DE LEENER Davy Palmans-Collstrop (B) mt
14 ISTA Kevyn Team Storez VC Ath (B) mt
15 POPOV Evgeni RO St Petersbourg (Rus) mt
16 INGELS Nic WG Beveren 2000 (B) mt
17 HENRION Jonathan Pesant Club Liège (B) mt
18 WYNANTS Maarten Jong Vlaanderen 2016 (B) mt
19 BLOKS Hans Lowik Meubelen Tegeltoko (PB) mt
20 BEIMA Marcel Lowik Meubelen Tegeltoko (PB) mt
21 VERMEERSCH Tim Firestone Lombarden (B) mt
22 POELS Norbert Bianchi-Diametal (B) mt
23 BEERNAERT Jochem Firestone Lombarden (B) mt
24 JANKOWIAK Dane USA National Team mt
25 VAN ROOY Sam Jong Vlaanderen 2016 (B) mt
26 GOESINNEN Floris Team Moser AH (PB) mt
27 DRANCOURT Pierre Vendée U Pays de la Loire mt
28 DEBEULE Kristof Deschacht-E.Merckx (B) mt
29 DE GRAAF Boudewijn Lowik Meubelen Tegeltoko (PB) mt
30 CORNU Dominique Palmans-Collstrop (B) mt
31 PAUWELS Serge Rabobank GS3 (PB) mt
32 ELIJZEN Michiel Rabobank GS3 (PB) mt
33 CRANE Matthew USA National Team mt
34 FONDARD Romain VC Roubaix mt
35 NIETVELD Jeroen G B Vorselaar (B) mt
36 DESMET Joel Team Storez VC Ath (B) mt
37 BONNAIRE Olivier Vendée U Pays de la Loire mt
38 DE DECKER Steven Deschacht-E.Merckx (B) mt
39 RIVERA Francesco Nationale Italie mt
40 GILLEPSIE Stuart USA National Team mt
41 FIRSANOV Sergey RO St Petersbourg (Rus) mt
42 VAN DEN EECKHOUT Kevin Deschacht-E.Merckx (B) mt
43 DE GREEF Francis Bikeland Team Bornem (B) mt
44 CALDWELL Blake USA National Team mt
45 VAN REY Jeroen Palmans-Collstrop (B) mt
46 OEGEMA Bart Lowik Meubelen Tegeltoko (PB) mt
47 KWANTEN Frank Team Moser AH (PB) mt
48 VANDENBERGH Stijn WK Onder Ons Parike (B) mt
49 BAIOLET Nicolas Pesant Club Liège (B) mt
50 VASTMANS Tom Jartazi Granville (B) mt
51 HUIZINGA Stefan De Jonge Renner (PB) mt
52 YATES Jeremy Deschacht-E.Merckx (B) mt
53 BOWMAN Daniel USA National Team mt
54 TANDART David VC Roubaix mt
55 DUYN Huub Palmans-Collstrop (B) mt
56 KOZONTCHOUK Dmitri RO St Petersbourg (Rus) mt
57 VERSCUREN Benny Bikeland Team Bornem (B) mt
58 VASTARANTA Jukka Rabobank GS3 (PB) mt
59 VAN HEULE Bart Bikeland Team Bornem (B) mt
60 DEROO David VC Roubaix à 1:03
61 BORRY Wim WC Soenens Germond (B) à 1:07
62 CLEMENT Sjef Rabobank GS3 (PB) mt
63 HASSINK Arne Lowik Meubelen Tegeltoko (PB) mt
64 VERBIST Evert Profel Cycling Team (B) à 1:17
65 WURTH Benn Team National Luxembourg à 1:53
66 CORIONI Claudio Nationale Italie à 2:40
67 RIGOTTO Elia Nationale Italie mt
68 BOGAERT Sammy VZW Royal Antwerp (B) à 4:52
69 PARDINI Olivier G B Vorselaar (B) mt
70 LAZAREV Sergey RO St Petersbourg (Rus) mt
71 HUYVAERT Tom Firestone Lombarden (B) à 7:13
72 VANDERGINST Dries Jartazi Granville (B) mt
73 VANENDERT Jelle Jartazi Granville (B) mt
74 KAISEN Olivier WG Beveren 2000 (B) à 8:10
75 COLLARD Simon G B Vorselaar (B) à 8:29
76 BOOM Lars Rabobank GS3 (PB) mt
77 VAN BRAECKEL Kenny Profel Cycling Team (B) mt
78 VAN DER VEKEN Jorn Profel Cycling Team (B) à 8:32
79 DE BOECK Jef Palmans-Collstrop (B) à 8:34
80 BEDDEGENOOTS Chistophe G B Vorselaar (B) mt
81 ICKX Mario WG Beveren 2000 (B) à 9:04
82 MELIS Jasper WG Beveren 2000 (B) mt
83 KAVSEK Rik Bianchi-Diametal (B) mt
84 BURTON Jérémy Team Wallonie FCWB (B) mt
85 VAN LOOCKE Pieter WC Soenens Germond (B) mt
86 CLAUDE Mathieu Vendée U Pays de la Loire mt
87 CLAUSSE Nicolas Noord West Brabant (B) mt
88 FRANZOI Enrico Nationale Italie à 11:54
89 SESTILI luigi Nationale Italie mt
90 SPLAWSKI Slawomir Team Storez VC Ath (B) à 12:56
91 RAVARD Anthony Vendée U Pays de la Loire à 13:27
92 AVISSE Antonin VC Roubaix à 13:28
93 SOISSONS Jefferson Team Wallonie FCWB (B) mt
94 SELS Kristof VZW Royal Antwerp (B) mt
95 THIBLIER Tom VC Roubaix mt
96 DE JONG Gideon De Jonge Renner (PB) mt
97 STEELE Ric Profel Cycling Team (B) mt
98 MAC GREGOR Ian USA National Team mt

I dont think any countries in Europe have an automatic spot.
 
Hey John,

THAT WAS IAN'S VERY FIRST RACE IN EUROPE. HAVE YOU EVER RACED IN EUROPE? IT'S VERY VERY DIFFERENT THAN IN THE US. I'M SURE IT WASN'T A SELECTIVE RACE...MORE OF A POSITION RACE LIKE ALL THE FLAT WINDY RACE IN BELGIUM. WORLDS IS A SECLECTION RACE WITH A NICE HILL. HE WILL EXCEL.

NOW GO RIDE YOUR BIKE!


John said:
Who should go to worlds in U23's?
I saw that the Ian kid was 13mins back in his first race in europe.
If he can not race with some of the best U23's, what would happen if
he raced with all of them at the World Championships?


These are from a 2.7.1 = Triptyque des Barrages

1 ENNEKENS Stijns Deschacht-E.Merckx (B) 4:06:40
2 VAN DER ZANDEN Tim De Jonge Renner (PB) à 0:01
3 POZZOVIVO Domenico Nationale Italie mt
4 KEISSE Iljo Jong Vlaanderen 2016 (B) à 0:09
5 BERNAUDEAU Giovanni Vendée U Pays de la Loire à 0:20
6 HANSEEUW Jelle Firestone Lombarden (B) mt
7 GEENS Dimitri Profel Cycling Team (B) mt
8 VANDEWALLE Kristof WG Beveren 2000 (B) mt
9 REUS Kai Rabobank GS3 (PB) à 0:25
10 NEVENS Sven Deschacht-E.Merckx (B) à 0:30
11 DUMOULIN Mirando Firestone Lombarden (B) mt
12 ROELANDTS Jurgen Jong Vlaanderen 2016 (B) mt
13 DE LEENER Davy Palmans-Collstrop (B) mt
14 ISTA Kevyn Team Storez VC Ath (B) mt
15 POPOV Evgeni RO St Petersbourg (Rus) mt
16 INGELS Nic WG Beveren 2000 (B) mt
17 HENRION Jonathan Pesant Club Liège (B) mt
18 WYNANTS Maarten Jong Vlaanderen 2016 (B) mt
19 BLOKS Hans Lowik Meubelen Tegeltoko (PB) mt
20 BEIMA Marcel Lowik Meubelen Tegeltoko (PB) mt
21 VERMEERSCH Tim Firestone Lombarden (B) mt
22 POELS Norbert Bianchi-Diametal (B) mt
23 BEERNAERT Jochem Firestone Lombarden (B) mt
24 JANKOWIAK Dane USA National Team mt
25 VAN ROOY Sam Jong Vlaanderen 2016 (B) mt
26 GOESINNEN Floris Team Moser AH (PB) mt
27 DRANCOURT Pierre Vendée U Pays de la Loire mt
28 DEBEULE Kristof Deschacht-E.Merckx (B) mt
29 DE GRAAF Boudewijn Lowik Meubelen Tegeltoko (PB) mt
30 CORNU Dominique Palmans-Collstrop (B) mt
31 PAUWELS Serge Rabobank GS3 (PB) mt
32 ELIJZEN Michiel Rabobank GS3 (PB) mt
33 CRANE Matthew USA National Team mt
34 FONDARD Romain VC Roubaix mt
35 NIETVELD Jeroen G B Vorselaar (B) mt
36 DESMET Joel Team Storez VC Ath (B) mt
37 BONNAIRE Olivier Vendée U Pays de la Loire mt
38 DE DECKER Steven Deschacht-E.Merckx (B) mt
39 RIVERA Francesco Nationale Italie mt
40 GILLEPSIE Stuart USA National Team mt
41 FIRSANOV Sergey RO St Petersbourg (Rus) mt
42 VAN DEN EECKHOUT Kevin Deschacht-E.Merckx (B) mt
43 DE GREEF Francis Bikeland Team Bornem (B) mt
44 CALDWELL Blake USA National Team mt
45 VAN REY Jeroen Palmans-Collstrop (B) mt
46 OEGEMA Bart Lowik Meubelen Tegeltoko (PB) mt
47 KWANTEN Frank Team Moser AH (PB) mt
48 VANDENBERGH Stijn WK Onder Ons Parike (B) mt
49 BAIOLET Nicolas Pesant Club Liège (B) mt
50 VASTMANS Tom Jartazi Granville (B) mt
51 HUIZINGA Stefan De Jonge Renner (PB) mt
52 YATES Jeremy Deschacht-E.Merckx (B) mt
53 BOWMAN Daniel USA National Team mt
54 TANDART David VC Roubaix mt
55 DUYN Huub Palmans-Collstrop (B) mt
56 KOZONTCHOUK Dmitri RO St Petersbourg (Rus) mt
57 VERSCUREN Benny Bikeland Team Bornem (B) mt
58 VASTARANTA Jukka Rabobank GS3 (PB) mt
59 VAN HEULE Bart Bikeland Team Bornem (B) mt
60 DEROO David VC Roubaix à 1:03
61 BORRY Wim WC Soenens Germond (B) à 1:07
62 CLEMENT Sjef Rabobank GS3 (PB) mt
63 HASSINK Arne Lowik Meubelen Tegeltoko (PB) mt
64 VERBIST Evert Profel Cycling Team (B) à 1:17
65 WURTH Benn Team National Luxembourg à 1:53
66 CORIONI Claudio Nationale Italie à 2:40
67 RIGOTTO Elia Nationale Italie mt
68 BOGAERT Sammy VZW Royal Antwerp (B) à 4:52
69 PARDINI Olivier G B Vorselaar (B) mt
70 LAZAREV Sergey RO St Petersbourg (Rus) mt
71 HUYVAERT Tom Firestone Lombarden (B) à 7:13
72 VANDERGINST Dries Jartazi Granville (B) mt
73 VANENDERT Jelle Jartazi Granville (B) mt
74 KAISEN Olivier WG Beveren 2000 (B) à 8:10
75 COLLARD Simon G B Vorselaar (B) à 8:29
76 BOOM Lars Rabobank GS3 (PB) mt
77 VAN BRAECKEL Kenny Profel Cycling Team (B) mt
78 VAN DER VEKEN Jorn Profel Cycling Team (B) à 8:32
79 DE BOECK Jef Palmans-Collstrop (B) à 8:34
80 BEDDEGENOOTS Chistophe G B Vorselaar (B) mt
81 ICKX Mario WG Beveren 2000 (B) à 9:04
82 MELIS Jasper WG Beveren 2000 (B) mt
83 KAVSEK Rik Bianchi-Diametal (B) mt
84 BURTON Jérémy Team Wallonie FCWB (B) mt
85 VAN LOOCKE Pieter WC Soenens Germond (B) mt
86 CLAUDE Mathieu Vendée U Pays de la Loire mt
87 CLAUSSE Nicolas Noord West Brabant (B) mt
88 FRANZOI Enrico Nationale Italie à 11:54
89 SESTILI luigi Nationale Italie mt
90 SPLAWSKI Slawomir Team Storez VC Ath (B) à 12:56
91 RAVARD Anthony Vendée U Pays de la Loire à 13:27
92 AVISSE Antonin VC Roubaix à 13:28
93 SOISSONS Jefferson Team Wallonie FCWB (B) mt
94 SELS Kristof VZW Royal Antwerp (B) mt
95 THIBLIER Tom VC Roubaix mt
96 DE JONG Gideon De Jonge Renner (PB) mt
97 STEELE Ric Profel Cycling Team (B) mt
98 MAC GREGOR Ian USA National Team mt

I dont think any countries in Europe have an automatic spot.
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[email protected] (John) wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> Who should go to worlds in U23's?
> I saw that the Ian kid was 13mins back in his first race in europe.
> If he can not race with some of the best U23's, what would happen if
> he raced with all of them at the World Championships?
>

you should judge someone on their good results not their lousy ones.

particulary if you don't know what happened in this race. mishap ?
maybe he was in an early break ? maybe he missed the critical move and
fried himself in the chase ? maybe he had some other objective besides
a top result ?

finish order certainly doesn't tell you everything about how strong
someone is.
 
"BJC" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> Hey John,
>
> THAT WAS IAN'S VERY FIRST RACE IN EUROPE. HAVE YOU EVER RACED IN
> EUROPE? IT'S VERY VERY DIFFERENT THAN IN THE US. I'M SURE IT WASN'T A
> SELECTIVE RACE...MORE OF A POSITION RACE LIKE ALL THE FLAT WINDY RACE IN
> BELGIUM. WORLDS IS A SECLECTION RACE WITH A NICE HILL. HE WILL EXCEL.
>
Not a comment Ian's performance, but the Tryptique des Barrages is
definitely not flat. It was windy on the weekend though.

Jeff
 
"BJC" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> Hey John,
>
> THAT WAS IAN'S VERY FIRST RACE IN EUROPE. HAVE YOU EVER RACED IN
> EUROPE? IT'S VERY VERY DIFFERENT THAN IN THE US. I'M SURE IT WASN'T A
> SELECTIVE RACE...MORE OF A POSITION RACE LIKE ALL THE FLAT WINDY RACE IN
> BELGIUM. WORLDS IS A SECLECTION RACE WITH A NICE HILL. HE WILL EXCEL.
>
Not a comment Ian's performance, but the Tryptique des Barrages is
definitely not flat. It was windy on the weekend though.

Jeff
 
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