You are exactly right but I don't think it is a shame, I think it is smart! And I speak from 30 years of experience dealing with men engaging in BS pissing contests about stuff that doesn't amount to shite. Motorcycles, bicycles, you name it. My wife doesn't give a rat's ass about carbon fiber or what the group weighs, she is too busy being extremely successful in her career. At 54 I am now completely sick of listening to a little clique of middle-aged guys shooting their mouths off about how many grams something doesn't weigh. I don't have to listen to that **** anymore so I don't. That is why I have come to avoid "group" and shop rides as they are populated mostly by amateur braggarts who will take you out through some stupid move, and then annoy the F out of you with a bag of hot air after the ride./img/vbsmilies/smilies/ROTF.gifOriginally Posted by SummerZest .
men like to pitch themselves against each other and it's very important for men to be good at stuff. In very general terms, women don't generally enjoy such things.. we tend to beat ourselves up over a defeat where a man would strive to perform better next time. Obviously, there are competitive women in the world, but mainly in professional circles... both in business and sport. You don't find as many women in the amature circles.... it's a great, great shame. Men tend to enjoy being quite amature and average at things I guess. AND, the main reason men take biking so seriously, is because of all the kit and technical stuff. They just LOVE all that and it adds another serious and encouraging dimension to cycling that us women don't really appreciate.
Originally Posted by Reid2 .
I am a virgin to women.
Good point, AlanG. Amish women are well known to be totally vicious in their circles. P )Originally Posted by AlanG .
You don't think Amish women are competitive in their quilting circles?
http://bikeville.blogspot.com/2009/08/aa-zimmerman-zimmy.htmlDespite the number of racing men who had come to the front on the Safety, no one man singled himself out as clearly above his confreres until the arrival from America in 1892 of A. A. Zimmerman. This rider provided the phenomenal development which had been looked for for some time. He took a long time to get lit, but suddenly jumped into form, and showed himself practically invincible, especially amongst men whose form he knew. His few defeats after he once got fit, as, for example, that which he suffered at the hands of Verheyen, at Berlin, were simply due to his holding unknown competitors too cheaply, and also to his failing to allow for the ease with which a rider may be shut in upon European tracks, which are narrow compared with the wide sweeps of American courses. Since Zimmerman's first visit many other foreign riders have come to England to compete, and a number of fine riders have been developed at home
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