Why do my hard earned tax dollars support a bike team?



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Steve Croft

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[email protected] (David N. Welton) wrote in message:

> What's the point of advertising USPS when half the shipping depends on
> the local postal system? I don't really follow that logic.


Perhaps the team's success in Europe has garned such huge exposure in
the US there is no need to produce a USPS service in Europe. The
media blitz here in the US has become more intense the past couple
years and you hardly hear Armstrong mentioned without USPS in the same
sentence.
 
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Tim McNamara

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Gawnsoft <[email protected]> writes:

> On Sun, 11 Jul 2004 13:16:42 -0500, Tim McNamara
> <[email protected]> wrote (more or less):
>
>>"Stefan Pavlik" <[email protected]> writes:
>>
>>> In doing so, the USPS can and has kept stamp prices reasonably low

>>
>>I'm always amazed to send letters to Europeans for under $1 and get
>>replies which may cost several times as much to send from Europe to
>>the US. I sent a letter to Ireland a few years ago, cost me US$.40
>>and the return from Ireland cost nearly US$5.00! Sending that
>>letter to Ireland now would cost more, but still probably a fraction
>>of what it would cost someone in Europe to send one to me.

>
> Quite bizarre - I find postage from the US to the UK is much more
> expensive than postage from the UK to the US.


Sending from within the US to the UK, or ordering from outside the US
for something to be sent from the US to the UK? Sending a letter or a
package? I've never sent anything but letters across the Pond and
don't know what parcel costs are. I sent postcards from France to the
US but can't remember how much it cost in 2002.

Have postage costs been rationalized with the advent of the Euro and
increased interrelationships between EU member states?
 
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Kenny

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Curtis L. Russell <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> On 12 Jul 2004 05:43:44 -0700, [email protected] (Kenny) wrote:
>
> >There are 10 WC ("classics") races and
> >only 1 tour each year. If you want to make such a comparison, compare
> >the two major disciplines in cycling: WC races and Grand Tours. I
> >think if you try to name the main contenders for those two types of
> >racing, you won't find more names for classics as for GT's.

>
> Depends on what you mean by contenders for racing. If you mean who can
> win a stage on a given day on one of the three Tours, as well as
> winning overall G.C., yes. If you are including anyone that has a role
> in the Tour, then also yes, but that has little to do with the thread
> to date.
>
> If you mean that there are as many legitimate contenders for winning
> the G.C. of a Tour as there are winning any one of the classics i a
> given year, that simply doesn't make sense.
>


I mean globally. Name the favourites for the 10 WC races and the
favourites for the three GT's at the start of the season. You'll get
about the same number of names.
 
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Curtis L. Russell

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On 12 Jul 2004 23:23:27 -0700, [email protected] (Kenny) wrote:

>I mean globally. Name the favourites for the 10 WC races and the
>favourites for the three GT's at the start of the season. You'll get
>about the same number of names.


Perhaps, but if they were to approach it classic by classic, the total
list would be much larger for the classics in most years (no doubt
there are years that the one-day racers were thin in talent and/or
dominated by one racer).

Its the naming the favorites at the start of the season that might
cause it to be a closer number. It makes it more an issue of naming
the favorites in one-day races for the year than naming the favorites
for actually winning any one of the classics and compiling a list. I
think the second list would usually be significantly larger than the
first.

Curtis L. Russell
Odenton, MD (USA)
Just someone on two wheels...
 
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Curtis L. Russell

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On 12 Jul 2004 23:23:27 -0700, [email protected] (Kenny) wrote:

>I mean globally. Name the favourites for the 10 WC races and the
>favourites for the three GT's at the start of the season. You'll get
>about the same number of names.


Perhaps, but if they were to approach it classic by classic, the total
list would be much larger for the classics in most years (no doubt
there are years that the one-day racers were thin in talent and/or
dominated by one racer).

Its the naming the favorites at the start of the season that might
cause it to be a closer number. It makes it more an issue of naming
the favorites in one-day races for the year than naming the favorites
for actually winning any one of the classics and compiling a list. I
think the second list would usually be significantly larger than the
first.

Curtis L. Russell
Odenton, MD (USA)
Just someone on two wheels...
 
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Jim Adney

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On Mon, 12 Jul 2004 17:37:33 -0500 Tim McNamara <[email protected]>
wrote:

>Luigi de Guzman <[email protected]> writes:


>> as I recall, those rates and protocols are negotiated bilaterally
>> between national postal services directly and multilaterally through
>> the Universal Postal Union.

>
>Huh. There's a body I've never heard of. Thanks. Even though I mail
>things internationally, I'd never thought of this before Mark's post.


I thought it was the International Postal Union. Same concept though.

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Jim Adney [email protected]
Madison, WI 53711 USA
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Luigi de Guzman

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On Tue, 13 Jul 2004 19:17:29 -0500, Jim Adney <[email protected]>
wrote:

>On Mon, 12 Jul 2004 17:37:33 -0500 Tim McNamara <[email protected]>
>wrote:
>
>>Luigi de Guzman <[email protected]> writes:

>
>>> as I recall, those rates and protocols are negotiated bilaterally
>>> between national postal services directly and multilaterally through
>>> the Universal Postal Union.

>>
>>Huh. There's a body I've never heard of. Thanks. Even though I mail
>>things internationally, I'd never thought of this before Mark's post.

>
>I thought it was the International Postal Union. Same concept though.


I did, too. I was corrected, though. It is the UPU, an acronym which
happily is the same in French as in English (I believe).

Their HQ is in Geneva, and as I recall, they are generally listed as a
special technical organ of the United Nations these days (along with
other umbrella bodies like ISO.)

You can read all about them at their website, <http://www.upu.int/> .
Note that the main colour is Yellow, which seems to mean "post" in
most places, except the Britain and its dependencies (where the
postboxes are red) and the USA (where they're blue).

Bike content: Re-Cycle, the used bicycle shop in Elephant and Castle
in London from time to time sell used surplus Royal Mail delivery
bikes. I really wanted to get one when I was there, but I couldn't
afford it, and bought my pink bike instead.

-Luigi

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>-----------------------------------------------
> Jim Adney [email protected]
> Madison, WI 53711 USA
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Kenny

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Curtis L. Russell <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> On 12 Jul 2004 23:23:27 -0700, [email protected] (Kenny) wrote:
>
> >I mean globally. Name the favourites for the 10 WC races and the
> >favourites for the three GT's at the start of the season. You'll get
> >about the same number of names.

>
> Perhaps, but if they were to approach it classic by classic, the total
> list would be much larger for the classics in most years (no doubt
> there are years that the one-day racers were thin in talent and/or
> dominated by one racer).
>
> Its the naming the favorites at the start of the season that might
> cause it to be a closer number. It makes it more an issue of naming
> the favorites in one-day races for the year than naming the favorites
> for actually winning any one of the classics and compiling a list. I
> think the second list would usually be significantly larger than the
> first.


Agreed if you name it classic by classic. But then you should do the
same for each tourstage. Then you also have a lot of different names.
I don't think you can make a comparison between individual classics
and a whole GT. if you do so, ofcourse you're right, but this way,
it doesn't mean a thing. If you want to compare, do so with the
WorldCup ("a 10 long stage race") and a GT (a 20 stage race) and
you'll have the same number of names.
 
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Ronde Champ

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[email protected] (kaiser) wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> Ronde,
>
> If you're a domestic pro bike racer like you say you are, then in all
> likelihood, you get to write the word "EXEMPT" on your W4 forms. So
> you probably pay no taxes anyhow.
>
> Nice try though.
>
> [email protected] (Ronde Champ) wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> > Hey,
> >
> > Why does the US federal Government support a bike team in France? I
> > work hard for my money, and think the taxes I pay could be better
> > used. What a Boondoggle!
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Ronde Champ


$19,200 in prize money last year, jack ass.
 
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Mike1

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> Why do my hard earned tax dollars support a bike team?



Why, because you mailed the check in, as is expected of a good peasant.

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Clovis Lark

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In rec.bicycles.racing Mike1 <[email protected]> wrote:

>> Why do my hard earned tax dollars support a bike team?



Because they weren't hard earned...

> Why, because you mailed the check in, as is expected of a good peasant.


> --
> Reply to [email protected]@@usfamily.net sans two @@, or your reply won't reach me.


> Drug smugglers and gun-runners are heroes of American capitalism.
> -- Jeffrey Quick
 
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KLuoni

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USPS Cycing is not funded byt taxpayer money. There has been several articles
written about it.

Too lazy to google for it
 

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