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Subject: RE: Mountain Biking
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> >""I didn't say to build more roads, I said to use the ones already
> >built. Is that so hard for you rot understand?""
> >
> >Thats exactly what I do when I go mountain biking! I don't go and
> >build more new tracks, I use the once that already built, so how is
> >that different now???
>
> If you are too lazy to read, I'm not going to spoon-feed you. Be a
> man and do your own homework.
I'm not lazy to read, I just have no time to read a lot of bull ****
written by some old guy and all he does is criticising everyone else
but not himself, as he is always right, thats just ignorance to me.
You just don't want to admit the truth about mountain biking. It is
one thing to be ignorant through no fault of your own, but you are
DELIBERATELY ignorant. There is nothing stupider.
"Stupider" - theres no such a word and you have what PhD, my **** you
do! If you do have it, send me a photocopy of it as an attachment.
Well you still still don't want admit that you are clearly wrong and
once again everyone is wrong for you and you are as usually wright.
Would you mind me asking how all of that rubbish is sponsored? I bet
off the back of the government, some bloody benefits I bet, I know you
types of people!
> >""Walking. Biking on paved roads.""
> >
> >Thats not a hobby that would satisfy me.
>
> Why not? It satisfied all of mankind for 6 million years. What's so
> special about you?
Because we live in a modern world, wake up. Also because I believe
that MTB is the most enviromentally friendly sport anyway, why give it
up. Apart from killing 1 or 2 animals a year, what else does it do?
Nothing!
Thanks for demonstrating your utter ignorance of your own sport.
You welcome! I think you demonstrated that you are unbelievable to
talk to about anything serious, and all you know and care is about MTB
being wrong. Look at yourself, walking is just as bad, killing animals
with your walking sticks and all that...
> >""You obviously know NOTHING about biology. Didn't you pay attention
> >in class?""
> >
> >Actually I probably know more then you do! As pretty obvious that
> >all you know about environmental issues is that mountain biking
> >causes it and that probably it. Think and use your brain, problems
> >such as air travel, fat kids in US, poor kids in Africa, get a life
> >and solve the important issues first. If you such an
> >environmentalist why the hell are you using the internet now? surely
> >thats bad as wastes electricity and therefore burns CO2---> bad
> >atmosphere and all that.
> >
> >""Other people are. Mountain biking is a BIG problem, and it's
> >producing environmentally ignorant people like you.""
> >
> >so you are saying I'm ignorant, you might be right but what I do
> >know is that Mountain biking is good foe my health
>
> So you don't care about the welfare of wildlife and other trail
> users. Mountain bikers are EXTREMELY selfish!
I do, which is why when the tracks are build they leave as much nature
untouched as possible. Whereas when stadiums for other sports are
built, no trees, animals etc... are saved!!!! Is it so hard for you
understand?
Stadiums don't make mountain biking okay! Where did you learn to
think????
Yeah but it doesn't make stadiums OK, does it? duh
And what i was trying to get to your stupid head is that its a far
greater problem, and that there are far more/bigger problem to deal
with, but obviously you're impossible to talk to.
> > and I'm sure that many of you Americans have no idea what a health
> > wellbeing is. With 1/3 of you obese, why don't you deal with that issue?
> >
> >Mountain biking isn't that much of a problem, if you think a little
> >track in woods is BIG issue, then get a life and have a look at
> >bigger issues around yourself. Ignorant people like you, think you
> >know it all but you know nothig, nothing at all, you live in your
> >own little perfect world and think that everyone is wrong but not you.
> >
> >""So what? That has NOTHING to do with mountain biking, and doesn't
> >make it okay.""
> >
> >Yes, I know its nothing to do with to do with biking but theres far
> >greater issue! So you wasting all this time consentrating on such a
> >small issue like mtb, when you have far greater issues surrounding
> >you, does sound a bit silly, doesn't it?
>
> Not at all. Millions of mountain bikers are out shredding the woods every week.
Yeah but billions of people fly every week!!!
But that doesn't make mountain biking okay! One thing has nothing to
do with the other. DUH!
Yeah but they are bigger problems, deal with them first or are you
just an idiot?? Come on, you can do it, just try to use your little
brain, I know its hard as you are so old and all of that but come on
its not difficult.
> >""When you read all of my papers, write me again. You are incredibly
> >ignorant.""
> >
> >To be fair I have no time to read all of your work, from what I've
> >read in the first 2 pages or so, it showed me that your are good
> >about critisesing other people and you never admit and solve your
> >own problems.
>
> So No one can teach you anything. You know more than all of us.
No, you wrong no one can teach you anything!
Then why do I have a Ph.D. and you don't? IDIOT.
My **** do you have a Ph.D.!!! You have nothing but utter ignorance
and a big ego, you stupid old brat. And anyways, I have more
qualifications then you'll ever have.
Theres 2 types of people in life:
the once that ***** about everyone and everything and the once that
just get on with it and do the job.
Well you are the one who *****es about everyone and doesn't actually
do anything himself.
I'm the one who does things!
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Subject: RE: Mountain Biking
Date: Thu, 5 Jun 2008 17:20:35 +0100
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> >""I didn't say to build more roads, I said to use the ones already
> >built. Is that so hard for you rot understand?""
> >
> >Thats exactly what I do when I go mountain biking! I don't go and
> >build more new tracks, I use the once that already built, so how is
> >that different now???
>
> If you are too lazy to read, I'm not going to spoon-feed you. Be a
> man and do your own homework.
I'm not lazy to read, I just have no time to read a lot of bull ****
written by some old guy and all he does is criticising everyone else
but not himself, as he is always right, thats just ignorance to me.
You just don't want to admit the truth about mountain biking. It is
one thing to be ignorant through no fault of your own, but you are
DELIBERATELY ignorant. There is nothing stupider.
"Stupider" - theres no such a word and you have what PhD, my **** you
do! If you do have it, send me a photocopy of it as an attachment.
Well you still still don't want admit that you are clearly wrong and
once again everyone is wrong for you and you are as usually wright.
Would you mind me asking how all of that rubbish is sponsored? I bet
off the back of the government, some bloody benefits I bet, I know you
types of people!
> >""Walking. Biking on paved roads.""
> >
> >Thats not a hobby that would satisfy me.
>
> Why not? It satisfied all of mankind for 6 million years. What's so
> special about you?
Because we live in a modern world, wake up. Also because I believe
that MTB is the most enviromentally friendly sport anyway, why give it
up. Apart from killing 1 or 2 animals a year, what else does it do?
Nothing!
Thanks for demonstrating your utter ignorance of your own sport.
You welcome! I think you demonstrated that you are unbelievable to
talk to about anything serious, and all you know and care is about MTB
being wrong. Look at yourself, walking is just as bad, killing animals
with your walking sticks and all that...
> >""You obviously know NOTHING about biology. Didn't you pay attention
> >in class?""
> >
> >Actually I probably know more then you do! As pretty obvious that
> >all you know about environmental issues is that mountain biking
> >causes it and that probably it. Think and use your brain, problems
> >such as air travel, fat kids in US, poor kids in Africa, get a life
> >and solve the important issues first. If you such an
> >environmentalist why the hell are you using the internet now? surely
> >thats bad as wastes electricity and therefore burns CO2---> bad
> >atmosphere and all that.
> >
> >""Other people are. Mountain biking is a BIG problem, and it's
> >producing environmentally ignorant people like you.""
> >
> >so you are saying I'm ignorant, you might be right but what I do
> >know is that Mountain biking is good foe my health
>
> So you don't care about the welfare of wildlife and other trail
> users. Mountain bikers are EXTREMELY selfish!
I do, which is why when the tracks are build they leave as much nature
untouched as possible. Whereas when stadiums for other sports are
built, no trees, animals etc... are saved!!!! Is it so hard for you
understand?
Stadiums don't make mountain biking okay! Where did you learn to
think????
Yeah but it doesn't make stadiums OK, does it? duh
And what i was trying to get to your stupid head is that its a far
greater problem, and that there are far more/bigger problem to deal
with, but obviously you're impossible to talk to.
> > and I'm sure that many of you Americans have no idea what a health
> > wellbeing is. With 1/3 of you obese, why don't you deal with that issue?
> >
> >Mountain biking isn't that much of a problem, if you think a little
> >track in woods is BIG issue, then get a life and have a look at
> >bigger issues around yourself. Ignorant people like you, think you
> >know it all but you know nothig, nothing at all, you live in your
> >own little perfect world and think that everyone is wrong but not you.
> >
> >""So what? That has NOTHING to do with mountain biking, and doesn't
> >make it okay.""
> >
> >Yes, I know its nothing to do with to do with biking but theres far
> >greater issue! So you wasting all this time consentrating on such a
> >small issue like mtb, when you have far greater issues surrounding
> >you, does sound a bit silly, doesn't it?
>
> Not at all. Millions of mountain bikers are out shredding the woods every week.
Yeah but billions of people fly every week!!!
But that doesn't make mountain biking okay! One thing has nothing to
do with the other. DUH!
Yeah but they are bigger problems, deal with them first or are you
just an idiot?? Come on, you can do it, just try to use your little
brain, I know its hard as you are so old and all of that but come on
its not difficult.
> >""When you read all of my papers, write me again. You are incredibly
> >ignorant.""
> >
> >To be fair I have no time to read all of your work, from what I've
> >read in the first 2 pages or so, it showed me that your are good
> >about critisesing other people and you never admit and solve your
> >own problems.
>
> So No one can teach you anything. You know more than all of us.
No, you wrong no one can teach you anything!
Then why do I have a Ph.D. and you don't? IDIOT.
My **** do you have a Ph.D.!!! You have nothing but utter ignorance
and a big ego, you stupid old brat. And anyways, I have more
qualifications then you'll ever have.
Theres 2 types of people in life:
the once that ***** about everyone and everything and the once that
just get on with it and do the job.
Well you are the one who *****es about everyone and doesn't actually
do anything himself.
I'm the one who does things!
--
I am working on creating wildlife habitat that is off-limits to
humans ("pure habitat"). Want to help? (I spent the previous 8
years fighting auto dependence and road construction.)
Please don't put a cell phone next to any part of your body that you
are fond of!
http://home.pacbell.net/mjvande
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Messenger's gone Mobile! Get it now!
--
I am working on creating wildlife habitat that is off-limits to
humans ("pure habitat"). Want to help? (I spent the previous 8
years fighting auto dependence and road construction.)
Please don't put a cell phone next to any part of your body that you are fond of!
http://home.pacbell.net/mjvande