On Aug 16, 8:21 pm, "* * Chas" <
[email protected]> wrote:
> "A Muzi" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>
> news:[email protected]...> >>>>> "Art Harris" <[email protected]> wrote
> > >>>>>> Read about Jobst's emergency frame repair in the alps:
>
> http://www.trentobike.org/Countries/Europe/Tour_Reports/Tour_of_the_A...
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> > >>>> "* * Chas" <[email protected]> wrote:
> > >>>>> Jobst rides a very large frame, at least 64cm (25"). He is an
> experienced
> > >>>>> enough cyclist to have realized that the chainstay should have
> been
> > >>>>> replaced rather than patched. Even better he should have used
> another
> > >>>>> frame and not have set out on such a demanding trip with a frame
> that was
> > >>>>> likely to fail.
>
> > >>> [email protected] wrote:
> > >>>> Well . . .
> > >>>> "Then I saw that the right chainstay had separated about 30mm ahead
> of
> > >>>> the dropout. This faulty tube had broken at midspan about two years
> > >>>> ago, and was splinted and brazed."
>
> http://www.trentobike.org/Countries/Europe/Tour_Reports/Tour_of_the_A...> >>>> It sounds as if the original brazing repair lasted two years.
> > >>>> I suspect that Jobst may still be riding the same welding-repaired
> > >>>> frame. This picture shows (I _think_) the welded area:
> > >>>>http://mly.smugmug.com/gallery/1895371#125761100-O-LB
> > >>>> (fromhttp://mly.smugmug.com/gallery/1895371#125761100)
> > >>>> When Jobst returns from his current tour of the Alps, he can let us
> > >>>> know if it's the same frame from 1995 and whether he had the tube
> > >>>> replaced or is happy with the repair.
> > >>>> Jobst's description in the second paragraph of his tour
> descriptions
> > >>>> didn't change the frame details in 1994, 1995, 1996, and 1997:
> > >>>> " . . . the frame is steel and about 26" with oversized top and
> down
> > >>>> tubes . . ."
>
> http://www.trentobike.org/Countries/Europe/Tour_Reports/Tour_of_the_A...
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> http://www.trentobike.org/Countries/Europe/Tour_Reports/Tour_of_the_A...
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> http://www.trentobike.org/Countries/Europe/Tour_Reports/Tour_of_the_A...
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> http://www.trentobike.org/Countries/Europe/Tour_Reports/Tour_of_the_A...
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> > >>>> In 1996 and 1997, the opening heading was "How and what I took
> along
> > >>>> (Same story as before)."
> > >>>> For what it's worth, here's a Honda trials machine frame, welded at
> > >>>> what would be roughly the seat post on a bicycle, if bicycle seat
> > >>>> posts split into an upside-down Y:
> > >>>>http://i12.tinypic.com/6329bww.jpg
> > >>>> Gas tank on the left, rear fender and dual suspension frame-loop on
> > >>>> the left.
> > >>>> It broke clean through about 25 years ago when I foolishly
> pretended
> > >>>> that I was back in timed competition and had a wonderful time
> blasting
> > >>>> up and down a familiar mountain trail. So far, the repair has
> lasted.
>
> > >> [email protected] wrote:
> > >>> Aha!
> > >>> On 16 May 2005, Jobst wrote:
> > >>> "This bicycle is over 15 years old and has at least 10,000 miles per
> > >>> year on it."
>
> http://groups.google.co.uk/group/rec.bicycles.tech/msg/c548e4b6cd90e7...
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> > >>> Some pictures from the post that started that thread:
> > >>>http://www.bikecult.com/works/archive/04bicycles/pjohnsonJB04.html
>
> > > Smokey <[email protected]> wrote:
> > >> Wow, that's a big inner chain ring that Jobst has. He definitely gets
> > >> my respect for climbing the Alps with that. Anyone know how many
> teeth
> > >> are on it?
>
> > [email protected] wrote:
> > > Jobst is notorious masher and uses a 50/46 x 13/24 six-speed:
> > > "I used Avocet Road 700x28 wire-bead, non-Kevlar tires on 36 hole
> > > Mavic MA-2 rims with 1.8-1.6mm DT spokes; Campagnolo Record brakes
> > > (Kool-Stop red pads), small flange hubs with a SunTour new winner pro
> > > 6-speed FW 13-15-17-19-21-24, Sun Tour Pro derailleur and downtube
> > > shift levers, and Shimano Dura Ace 180mm cranks with 46-50 CW . . ."
>
> http://www.trentobike.org/Countries/Europe/Tour_Reports/Tour_of_the_A...
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> > Jobst Brandt is presently using the Shimano HG Seven 13~26 cassette.
> > --
> > Andrew Muzi
>
> We all get old sometime...... ;-)
>
> I can't push my 49/45 13-26 halfstep gears in the hills any more.
And why should you? Not that I am a super low gear kind of guy, but I
was climbing a really steep grade on my way home from work, and some
kid goes steaming by on a fixed gear with probably a 65 inch gear.
Pretty impressive (this was a 25+ percent stair step), but he hit a
tipping point at the top of the next pitch where he could barely turn
the gear -- and where I caught up again, in my less macho gear. If he
had a reasonable gear, he would have dumped me by a long shot. He did
dump me when it flattened out a bit, but then turned off to avoid
having to duke it out with a fat 50 year old on the flats (at least
that's my story). Remember that Jobst is a freak. He is not only Mr.
Wheel, but he used to spank some seriously talented Nor Cal riders
back in the day (racers who routinely crushed me like a bug in the
70s) -- and apparently he can still generate serious torque. The rest
of us have to use reasonable gears. -- Jay Beattie.
